This is a highlight reel of a 12 Yo
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happy_tiger
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Obviously been taught to tackle properly from a very young age
My Dad drilled that into me as a kid
He has a few flaws that someone needs to fix up Running with the ball in the wrong arm etc
The boy has some talent and if he continues to work hard and put football high on his priority list he could go places.
See he is from the Gold Coast get him to Keebra Park on a scholarship NOW
My Dad drilled that into me as a kid
He has a few flaws that someone needs to fix up Running with the ball in the wrong arm etc
The boy has some talent and if he continues to work hard and put football high on his priority list he could go places.
See he is from the Gold Coast get him to Keebra Park on a scholarship NOW
hammertime
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Does anyone talk to Humpty, Sheens or McDonald? Someone should forward that clip through to them..
Fraze23
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Surely 12 is too young to be looking at making an offer. At the moment he is 12 years old and looks to be a lot bigger, faster and stronger than those around him. Wait til he's 16-17 and the other kids have caught up size wise and if he's still making the same impact then for sure well worth a look. But 12 is too young to offer a contract to.
Looks to be an extremely talented kid with his defensive technique. Add to that his strength and pace to burn he could be up for a big future. Like some said though, he looks like he is much larger than the other kids in his age group and could well be brought back to the pack as they mature.
hammertime
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@Fraze23 said:
I don't think anyone would suggest a contract/offer. But Keebra would be on the look out for talent like this for any scholarship programs they have.
@hammertime said:
clearly not worth a club investing in a 12 yo, it is however right up a schools alley, and with luck it will be Keebra. According to my mate, he currently has interest from 5 rugby schools, Nudgee, Southport, Kings, Riverview and one undisclosed (im guessing Joeys, they seem to keep their offers silent)
I cant imagine what it would be like as a 12 year old kid, having all these people chasing at such a young age. Hopefully it is a passport to a great education and a stepping stone to some sort of footy career.
Citizen_Tiger
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There's dozens of kids at 10, 11 and 12 that look like world beaters, but tend to come back to the pack as their peers mature. He looks to be a typically big Polynesian boy, who may not have a birth certificate, if not born here. Looks a natural defender, but as is so often the case in that age group, runs diagonally to beat defenders. In my experience, GPS schools don't offer 12 year olds scholarships, unless it's a case of all round excellence. Absolutely not on the basis of Rugby skills alone. Kings and Newington are the two most active schools in terms of improving their Rugby programmes and while active at events like the recent National U16 Champs at Riverview recently, they don't trawl the younger age groups.
@Citizen Tiger said:
I can speak with definite authority on the scholarships at GPS (and other schools) and I actually provided rugby recommendations for more than 1 school in the GPS system. 1 school provides a scholarship for those who are from a disadvataged back ground. The qualification requires the kid be 14 or less, and from a disadvantaged back ground. The 5 years I was associated with it, the player who received the scholarship went on to play Aus Schoolboys, they make sure they hit other markers and are good kids, but call it what you want,that is a rugby scholarship.
You are right in saying they dont trawl the carnivals at lower age groups, and they dont, but there is recipricol arrangements with various groups and organisations .
There is some very easy indicators to spot a kid who is just bigger/more developed than other kids, as opposed to being more athletic, and natural football instincts are much easier to spot at 12 than 15 or 16, sounds counter intuitive, but as they get older, the standard of coaching they have received impacts greatly on the underlying real goods, and the level of improvement in them is unknown.
If you take a kid with this sort of talent and put them in a good program, they almost all excel until at least 18, from there, a number of factors come into play.
Marshall_magic
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@Mystery said:
Any big back rower/centre/winger would look like that at that age. I wouldn't judge the kid till at least under 16s, when he's playing against players who have filled out their frame. There's plenty of big boys who look good in lower grades, but once they get to open age and can't use their size and strength really get found out.
Yeah i played against a number of kids similar in size and ability if not better i would of thought that at least 4 or 5 would of at least played lower grades if not first grade the only ones that did were Tony and Frank Puletua. I remember Tony at twelve and he would of destroyed this kid he was big and quick maybe not as quick as this boy but looking at the opposition this kid is playing against makes him look better.
I coach my son at this age and have watched a lot of junior football and one thing i notice is if you have a kid who is confident and runs onto the ball straight and hard most kids get intimidated by him and will not put their body in front of him, even if he's not that big, they step aside and throw an arm out as he runs through them or they wait until he runs past them and try and tackle him side on or from behind.
12 is too young, a lot of things change from the age of 12 to 17 or 18 mostly your opposition improves and becomes more competitive.
I coach my son at this age and have watched a lot of junior football and one thing i notice is if you have a kid who is confident and runs onto the ball straight and hard most kids get intimidated by him and will not put their body in front of him, even if he's not that big, they step aside and throw an arm out as he runs through them or they wait until he runs past them and try and tackle him side on or from behind.
12 is too young, a lot of things change from the age of 12 to 17 or 18 mostly your opposition improves and becomes more competitive.
happy_tiger
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@TIGER said:
Probably the reason why we need to go back to the days where kids play in regards to weight divisions instead of age limits
How many potentially good footballers are being pushed to AFL or soccer because they are concerned their kids will get hurt playing against kids 20+ kgs heavier than there own children in a heavy contact sport
LOL OUCH!!!
Big hits, very enjoyable.
Big hits, very enjoyable.
Marshall_magic
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@happy tiger said:
I'd do both, have only odd age groups (10s, 12s, 14s, 16s, 18s) and have an under and over weight competition (say 50kg for 12s, 65 for 14s, 80 for 16s, then open weight in 18s). I don't like the idea of some of these 12 yo kids going up against 16 year olds. Either that, or have a maximum weight restriction for each age group, and if you're over then you play up an age group or two.
@happy tiger said:
About 6 years ago I was at a forum to work on this "problem", I must confess I contributed very little. The result in the end was neither work!
We had these experts with medical backgrounds speaking about drama's with bigger kids, playing against smaller kids of the same age and the drama associated.
BUt apparently there is equal dangers about kids who are older, but the same size as kids big for their age, their conclusion the safety issues are roughly the same.
Obviosuly people suggested exactly what Marshall magic has, why not both, the problem with that is by breaking into weight and age divisions, then creates 2 problems, firstly clubs without large player numbers struggle to get teams together due to the break up, (they may only have 15 12 year olds and 15 11 yearolds, but than have split them over 4 weight divisions for that combined age group and end up with no teams) and the other, which arguably more of a problem, the age divisions will be separated on weight not, ability as they are now, which will create ability gulfs, which is crap for the game, but more importantly, ability gulfs have a larger impact on safety than size gulfs.
A 4 hour forum, result, nothing is fair, they all have the same dangers, everyone else goes age groups, so until someone else comes up with somtehing better, it is how it is. Very disallusioning TBH.
Getting back to this kid in the video, I can tell you, kids like him are not a dime a dozen like others have suggested, to dominate a rep carnival like that is very rare. I dont any more, but at one point, a large part of my job was finding blokes like this and developing them to play rugby (which usally means getting them into a program of sorts), there is lots of blokes doing this for both league and union at various age groups, there is very high success rate for kids picked up early doing well up until at least the time they finish school.
innsaneink
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@Citizen Tiger said:
Spot on….kids like this are everywhere every weekend.
Ive seen dozens.
He may turn out to be a good player, test comes when all his peers catch up to him in size.
Ive seen young Sirro play off and on for some years, he was nowhere near this standard at the same age...however as hes grown hes developed, improved with each year, same for his brother imo - (dad reckons hes better than curtis at the same age & should play Matts next year)
I recall people saying similar about Mitch Pearce, pretty much just another player as a junior, development however is the key....fruit usually doesnt fall too far from the tree