Thoughts

[tigermaniac]

Why on earth would you have Moses at fullback and Austin at five eighth. Austin slotted into fullback for a whole game against the Raiders and went ok. While he won't set the world on fire, it was at least, a problem solved for the meantime. On the other hand Moses, we get told, is still to bulk up and could be at risk to injury. Well if he remains at fullback he'll most definitely get injured. The greatest mystery to me is, we know he has an understand with Brooks in the halves yet he's not his partner.
Yes people will say he fills in in attack, but it has to be permanent. I've said all along Austin is no ball player, keep him there and our attack will suffer, he only has utility value. I think both and the team will benefit from the switch.

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[thesquid]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

 

[tigermaniac]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

Total crap. I see nothing in him but utility. Name me a half that Austin will out play.

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[NJLM78]

I think Moltzen will be playing fullback in a few weeks so Moses may move into 6 then. Still want to see Austin given more time in halves though.

 

[thesquid]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

Total crap. I see nothing in him but utility. Name me a half that Austin will out play.

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Tigers half. Don't have to look far.

 

[tigermaniac]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

Total crap. I see nothing in him but utility. Name me a half that Austin will out play.

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Tigers half. Don't have to look far.

I thought you'd respond accordingly.

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[hobbo]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

I agree , if anything it's brooks who's not living up to expectation IMO . Surely this supposedly GUN halfback should have at least single handedly won us a game by now ?… Just saying !

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[thesquid]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

Total crap. I see nothing in him but utility. Name me a half that Austin will out play.

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Tigers half. Don't have to look far.

I thought you'd respond accordingly.

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Glad you must agree, since you knew the answer already.

Well it is obvious that he is the only attacking player with any danger whenever he has the ball.

I don't see many options coming from Anasta or Brooks. Maybe fleeting moments.

 

[LCA]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

I agree , if anything it's brooks who's not living up to expectation IMO . Surely this supposedly GUN halfback should have at least single handedly won us a game by now ?… Just saying !

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I don't quite agree that he should have won us a game by now, but I am starting to doubt the hype about him. More than that though, I am wondering whether Potter has the technical nouse to get the best out of him. Some of his decision making last night was very ordinary.

 

[jirskyr]

Well if he remains at fullback he'll most definitely get injured.
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I missed that, why will he defn get injured at FB? You'd rather him in the line at 5/8th, trying to bring down the Tony Williams and Dave Taylors of the game. He is at FB precisely to save him from excessive contact.

 

[innsaneink]

Well if he remains at fullback he'll most definitely get injured.
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I missed that, why will he defn get injured at FB? You'd rather him in the line at 5/8th, trying to bring down the Tony Williams and Dave Taylors of the game. He is at FB precisely to save him from excessive contact.

someone with a clue

gee there are a lot of members here lately without much of an idea…really not looking at the big picture, focussing instead on 80 minutes oer week

My worry with bot of them is is our ability in eventually retaining them

 

[westTAHger]

for some years now, we have been calling for younger players to get a chance.
last season and this season we have seen it happen.

we all wanted to see Moses and Brooks in the same team, now it is happening.
as long as they are on the field together is the most important aspect.

I agree with previous posts, why would you expose Moses playing at 5/8.
let him build his confidence during the remainder of this season, and slowly rotate between fullback and 5/8 .we see other clubs do it, eg rooster for rotating fullback/winger with mini & roger.
we all know, and need to realise, that wests-tigers are in a phase of blooding in the future players.
**the team is not going to win every game every week, and that in itself is hard to accept at times.**

so far this year, result's have already far exceeded last year's dis-appointment. :sign:

 

[foreveratiger]

for some years now, we have been calling for younger players to get a chance.
last season and this season we have seen it happen.

we all wanted to see Moses and Brooks in the same team, now it is happening.
as long as they are on the field together is the most important aspect.

I agree with previous posts, why would you expose Moses playing at 5/8.
let him build his confidence during the remainder of this season, and slowly rotate between fullback and 5/8 .we see other clubs do it, eg rooster for rotating fullback/winger with mini & roger.
we all know, and need to realise, that wests-tigers are in a phase of blooding in the future players.
**the team is not going to win every game every week, and that in itself is hard to accept at times.**

so far this year, result's have already far exceeded last year's dis-appointment. :sign:

Agreed , they have exceeded my expectation already this year . The one that has to be shopped around is Lawrence by gee his terrible .
With in 3 years i reckon we will win a Premiership , as long as injuries stay kind cause no one has more injuries than our club , i don't know what it is but year after year

 

[tig_prmz]

as long as they are on the field together is the most important aspect.

agree 100%.. we've invested the next 4 years on the hope that brooks/moses who killed u18s and 20s with their combo can keep it going in the toughest competition of all.

give them all the time, resources and money they need to make that happen.

 

[sideline_eye]

With Moses at fullback, he can and does act as a second 5/8 in attack; in fact all good fullbacks do this. However, no half, 5/8 or fullback is going to win you a game without a platform to work from. For these blokes to really fire, our forwards need to be dominant; just holding their own isn't good enough when we have such a young and inexperienced spine ( Robbie excluded).

The lynch mob on here really need to sit back and watch these players develop over the next couple of years, rather than death riding them after every loss. In saying that, I'm talking about more than just this thread.

 

[Yossarian]

Well if he remains at fullback he'll most definitely get injured.
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I missed that, why will he defn get injured at FB? You'd rather him in the line at 5/8th, trying to bring down the Tony Williams and Dave Taylors of the game. He is at FB precisely to save him from excessive contact.

someone with a clue

gee there are a lot of members here lately without much of an idea…really not looking at the big picture, focussing instead on 80 minutes oer week

My worry with bot of them is is our ability in eventually retaining them

Spot on. Barring a miracle of Biblical proportions we're not going to win the comp this year. However the things we're doing now may assist win the 2016 premiership. There is a hell of a lot of upside to this team - Friday night was disappointing from a results perspective but the general flow of the game wasn't so bad. It was simple errors and a lack of experience that often held us back. Even leaving aside guys like Brooks and Moses let's remember players like Taupau are going to be better next season for playing a whole season and establishing a combination.

 

[tigermaniac]

Well if he remains at fullback he'll most definitely get injured.
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I missed that, why will he defn get injured at FB? You'd rather him in the line at 5/8th, trying to bring down the Tony Williams and Dave Taylors of the game. He is at FB precisely to save him from excessive contact.

someone with a clue

gee there are a lot of members here lately without much of an idea…really not looking at the big picture, focussing instead on 80 minutes oer week

My worry with bot of them is is our ability in eventually retaining them

Ink tell me is it that hard to follow what I'm saying in the OP or are we dealing with academics on this forum. If brains wins out, I'm staying out of it.

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[innsaneink]

Moses at FB is probably less risk of injury there rather than at 5/8 defending in the front line having blokes like JWH, SBW , Kasiano etc running at him on tackle one two three four

I agree BA went OK at FB the other week but I think Moses safety is paramount atm

 

[yeti]

Thoughts. Total bull. You lost me at Austin is no ball player.

I agree , if anything it's brooks who's not living up to expectation IMO . Surely this supposedly GUN halfback should have at least single handedly won us a game by now ?… Just saying !

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I don't quite agree that he should have won us a game by now, but I am starting to doubt the hype about him. More than that though, I am wondering whether Potter has the technical nouse to get the best out of him. Some of his decision making last night was very ordinary.

Are you guys serious? Give the kid a break! He's a rookie halfback, in his first year in top grade, still learning what is required to be a half in the NRL, and trying to deal with the 'week in week out' grind of this competition when there are no easy games and every big boppa in the competition is trying to run over the top of him on every play! Sheeesh!
I don't recall even the great Andrew Johns dominating a game in his first year in the nrl. Some of you blokes are tough markers that's for sure.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Moses at FB is probably less risk of injury there rather than at 5/8 defending in the front line having blokes like JWH, SBW , Kasiano etc running at him on tackle one two three four

I agree BA went OK at FB the other week but I think Moses safety is paramount atm

he's just so vulnerable @ the tryline, especially with JWH, SBW & co
Kasiano no chance
you are right - his safety is paramount