Threat to Tigers' future

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

I think this is a call to arms for all people that want the Balmain Leagues club back.

Go to the following and make a submission in favour of the project.

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=4499

There will be hundreds (if not thousands) of submissions against the project we need to be heard.

If you look at the Cronullas leagues club development they had submissions supporting the developement from people all over Australia. The people mainly said the club supports the community and the new development will add much needed shopping and other facilities to the area. We can do the same.

In my submission in support of the Balmain Leagues Club I made the following points:

the new club will provide an increase in much needed housing to the area. I stated that even although I grew up in Balmain it is no longer affordable for me and many people I grew up with. The addition of any new housing can start to help afforadability in the area.

I pointed out that the Balmain Leagues Club had alwayd provided for many groups in the community and should be encouraged back into the community with a viable project.

The new site is well serviced by Public Transport and these areas should become more density areas as a lot of the infersatructure is in place.

I also pointed out a lot of the "greenie" supporters are blow ins that are new to the area but although they make a lot of noise don't necesserily represent the thoughts of everyone in the area.

In short I encourage you all to make a submission supporting the club, it will only take about 10 minutes.

 

[Anthism]

I agree the leagues club needs to come back but the scale of the current model is way too big. The area doesn't need more shops.
A leagues club with apartments is sufficient. on behalf of the local business owners who are struggling, they don't need more competition and the traffic is bad enough around that area thank you very much.
The "greenie" supporters are actually the ones that have sense in them and are not blow ins at all. Notice how balmain/Rozelle has only one subway and an Oporto?? That's the character of the area and it always has been. I've lived in this area my whole life and I like the community aspect. People are friendly. It's unique. You will lose that with a mega shopping centre.
You can have your own opinion but try looking at it from everyone's perspective please.

The current model needs to be modified to cater for the community
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[Benjirific]

I think this is a call to arms for all people that want the Balmain Leagues club back.

Go to the following and make a submission in favour of the project.

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=4499

There will be hundreds (if not thousands) of submissions against the project we need to be heard.

If you look at the Cronullas leagues club development they had submissions supporting the developement from people all over Australia. The people mainly said the club supports the community and the new development will add much needed shopping and other facilities to the area. We can do the same.

In my submission in support of the Balmain Leagues Club I made the following points:

the new club will provide an increase in much needed housing to the area. I stated that even although I grew up in Balmain it is no longer affordable for me and many people I grew up with. The addition of any new housing can start to help afforadability in the area.

I pointed out that the Balmain Leagues Club had alwayd provided for many groups in the community and should be encouraged back into the community with a viable project.

The new site is well serviced by Public Transport and these areas should become more density areas as a lot of the infersatructure is in place.

I also pointed out a lot of the "greenie" supporters are blow ins that are new to the area but although they make a lot of noise don't necesserily represent the thoughts of everyone in the area.

In short I encourage you all to make a submission supporting the club, it will only take about 10 minutes.

Spot on the mark, in particular with the housing points. It was interesting that the local member Jamie Parker (a Greens representative) tweeted a couple of weeks ago saying that the community members supporting the project must be pretend members of the community - which is effectively what we're up against. If people outside the area can make submissions saying how beneficial it is to them and the local community, I think this will hold more weight with the State Govt because it is now a state significant site.

 

[Mothermagpie]

There is always debate in these threads which can get lively.

There is also at least one worthless moron in each of them.

Congrats to Shane for being that moron

You might want another choice of word/words other than spastic though! That is an offensive word to people who have disabilities. I dont like it as my husband is disabled and has involuntry movements due to MS. I can assure you he is not useless.

 

[system]

Fair call. Done and done

 

[Mothermagpie]

Thankyou…much better :smiley:

 

[Yossarian]

I agree the leagues club needs to come back but the scale of the current model is way too big. The area doesn't need more shops.
A leagues club with apartments is sufficient. on behalf of the local business owners who are struggling, they don't need more competition and the traffic is bad enough around that area thank you very much.
The "greenie" supporters are actually the ones that have sense in them and are not blow ins at all. Notice how balmain/Rozelle has only one subway and an Oporto?? That's the character of the area and it always has been. I've lived in this area my whole life and I like the community aspect. People are friendly. It's unique. You will lose that with a mega shopping centre.
You can have your own opinion but try looking at it from everyone's perspective please.

The current model needs to be modified to cater for the community
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Well if people want to shop in small shops they will right? In any event it is not the place of council or the state government to prevent competition for existing businesses. There's probably a similar number of fast food places in Leichhardt but places like the Forum fit into the area and provide some alternatives. If they have a good business people will still shop there but not everyone wants to buy their things at niche shops and enjoy the convenience of a supermarket. When I lived at Leichhardt I sometimes shopped at Coles, sometimes at independent shops. I enjoyed having the choice though.

Besides this is not in the Balmain "Village" it's Victoria Road Rozelle. It has all the character of an armpit and all the uniqueness of a used car lot.

 

[innsaneink]

If what Mr Timbs is saying I think some people here are downplaying things somewhat….and its not getting easier for them

Anything relating to funding of the WT Partnership is purely speculation and there is nothing stopping BFC **sourcing income from alternative methods?**

Like what?

Kul could tip in with all the money he makes on the Forum…

Oh well looks like theyre screwed then…

 

[1974semifinal]

Ok, Balmain Leagues are f******…, and when they are broke..please tell me the answer...or do Wests take over.?

 

[system]

There is, and always has been more of a chance of a license being granted to a new Wests Tigers corporation than either Balmain or Wests gaining 100% control over the JV in my opinion as the club is exactly what the NRL wants in terms of demographic, distributed fan base and television draw ability facets that neither foundation clubs had at all by the 90's

 

[Snake]

There is, and always has been more of a chance of a license being granted to a new Wests Tigers corporation than either Balmain or Wests gaining 100% control over the JV in my opinion as the club is exactly what the NRL wants in terms of demographic, distributed fan base and television draw ability facets that neither foundation clubs had at all by the 90's

The JV partnership is nearing it's used by date ..I would suspect both partys would be glad it has,time for all partys to move on.As stated above times have changed and hopefuly with a huge infusion of money from the new rights deal this is going to happen and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the wheels are not already in motion.

 

[wtfl1981]

WT is a private company.

Changing the Joint venture into a football club would require all parties to agree to it..

If the Rozelle site dramas dont go ahead and Balmain FC go down the bankrupcy path (and can no longer payback money the owe). A bankrupt entity can not be a business partner in any company. That would NOT look good for the board level administration/stability and financial future of WT.

Important issue we must all follow and monitor. Its up to the powers to be to decide on whats best. Members cannot vote as we are members of a private company football side not a football club.

 

[innsaneink]

There is, and always has been more of a chance of a license being granted to a new Wests Tigers corporation than either Balmain or Wests gaining 100% control over the JV in my opinion as the club is exactly what the NRL wants in terms of demographic, distributed fan base and television draw ability facets that neither foundation clubs had at all by the 90's

The JV partnership is nearing it's used by date ..**I would suspect both partys would be glad it has**,time for all partys to move on.As stated above times have changed and hopefuly with a huge infusion of money from the new rights deal this is going to happen and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the wheels are not already in motion.

I'd say only one side would be 'glad'

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Lol… Who said the FC might need to go into bankruptcy? This article is about the 'leagues' club not being able to provide funding to the football club.

Regardless, Balmains equity within the Wests Tigers brand alone would be capable of securing loans from the banks for probably the next 10 years (a la parra)

Keep dreaming 1981!!!

 

[pacey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk

 

[wtfl1981]

Lol… Who said the FC might need to go into bankruptcy? This article is about the 'leagues' club not being able to provide funding to the football club.

Regardless, Balmains equity within the Wests Tigers brand alone would be capable of securing loans from the banks for probably the next 10 years (a la parra)

Keep dreaming 1981!!!

As far as i know the football club holds the interests in the rozelle site. Where else would balmain fc generate its income from apart from minor sponsors?
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[Knuckles]

I hope I live to see the day Wests Tigers has its own football club.
It will be a like a "Wests Tigers Independance Day"

 

[Yossarian]

Lol… Who said the FC might need to go into bankruptcy? This article is about the 'leagues' club not being able to provide funding to the football club.

Regardless, Balmains equity within the Wests Tigers brand alone would be capable of securing loans from the banks for probably the next 10 years (a la parra)

Keep dreaming 1981!!!

As far as i know the football club holds the interests in the rozelle site. Where else would balmain fc generate its income from apart from minor sponsors?
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His point was the football club and the leagues club are 2 different entities. I've not read anything that says the football club have a financial liability in regards to the leagues club. If they do I'm happy to be corrected.
You speculated that the league club going bankrupt would have an impact on the football club holding its part of the JV license. The counter suggestion was the profitability/value of the WT JV would be enough to get a loan. How else would the football club get money? Well sponsors, whatever the leagues clubs could tip in, private benefactors etc. $1.5 million is not a massive amount of money… It's not insignificant but it's hardly unobtainable.

 

[wtfl1981]

Lol… Who said the FC might need to go into bankruptcy? This article is about the 'leagues' club not being able to provide funding to the football club.

Regardless, Balmains equity within the Wests Tigers brand alone would be capable of securing loans from the banks for probably the next 10 years (a la parra)

Keep dreaming 1981!!!

As far as i know the football club holds the interests in the rozelle site. Where else would balmain fc generate its income from apart from minor sponsors?
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His point was the football club and the leagues club are 2 different entities. I've not read anything that says the football club have a financial liability in regards to the leagues club. If they do I'm happy to be corrected.
You speculated that the league club going bankrupt would have an impact on the football club holding its part of the JV license. The counter suggestion was the profitability/value of the WT JV would be enough to get a loan. How else would the football club get money? Well sponsors, whatever the leagues clubs could tip in, private benefactors etc. $1.5 million is not a massive amount of money… It's not insignificant but it's hardly unobtainable.

From the article:

''It puts a lot of pressure [on us],'' Timbs said of being based away from their traditional home. ''Balmain relies on a lot of support from the community by way of people being members of the club and supporting the club and if we have only [the current] two small businesses to run it will be hard to get the revenue through the business that's required to run the footy and so forth.
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[Yossarian]

His point was the football club and the leagues club are 2 different entities. I've not read anything that says the football club have a financial liability in regards to the leagues club. If they do I'm happy to be corrected.
You speculated that the league club going bankrupt would have an impact on the football club holding its part of the JV license. The counter suggestion was the profitability/value of the WT JV would be enough to get a loan. How else would the football club get money? Well sponsors, whatever the leagues clubs could tip in, private benefactors etc. $1.5 million is not a massive amount of money… It's not insignificant but it's hardly unobtainable.

From the article:

''It puts a lot of pressure [on us],'' Timbs said of being based away from their traditional home. ''Balmain relies on a lot of support from the community by way of people being members of the club and supporting the club and if we have only [the current] two small businesses to run it will be hard to get the revenue through the business that's required to run the footy and so forth.
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Yes as he says - "hard". He doesn't say impossible.