Tigers board to undertake post-season review

[tony soprano]

I’m not sure many of you have ever met or seen sheens in action. If he comes back he will run the club. No one answers to Sheens. Trust me on this .

What do you mean?

 

[TYGA]

I’m not sure many of you have ever met or seen sheens in action. If he comes back he will run the club. No one answers to Sheens. Trust me on this .

What do you mean?

Dominant character he ain’t listening to amateurs.

 

[Needaname]

We finished
2019 - 9th
2020 - 11th
2021 - 13th
If there isn’t change soon 15th or the wooden spoon is waiting for us

It is that bad.
Broncos, Bulldogs, Warriors and Cowboys will be better next year based on recruitment and injured stars back, heck the Warriors will hopefully play at home for the 1st time in 2yrs & have their full squad available week to week.

We are a disaster.


Broncos, Bulldogs and Cowboys share a common problem with WT. All poorly run organisations urgently trying to solve problems created by bad choices.
WT started turning things around before them, so I can’t see us not being ahead of that game. It may not look like it after the Hiding we got from the Bulldogs.
Our future success is more dependent on the choices of our decision makers, whom ever they may be?
A typical organisation develops a proven formula for success, establishes systems and procedures to compliment and drive toward goals of various time horizons. Has motivated people, who are fully aware of their duties and responsibilities, the value of the part they play while being dedicated to achieving the organisation’s goals.
I’m totally convinced we are using a different approach where decisions are not born from collaboration and made by the person responsible, but come about as a result of infighting. The TPJ fiasco was a classic example.
As Lauren previously eluded to, their collective problem solving skills are not inspiring any confidence. One possible reason for this is could be the focus on who is wrong, not what is wrong? Playing the man, not the ball?

Issue I have is the Broncos & Bulldogs are now infront of us.

Our strategy of being a junior haven has merit but no junior with huge talent will stay if they have no support. We are also buying a bunch of kids to jump into Reggies or NRL. The pact of growing up together and coming through the grades together doesn’t exist as such wanting to stick together means little when a club who is competitive & with a fellow support cast comes knocking.

Broncos/Bulldogs and Cowboys have bought NRL starting players, we have bought 2 players from ESL. Both will struggle with the speed & size of the NRL. They also will miss the start of preseason (ESL has 2 more rounds + finals, then they have to get into the country - which has taken Sheens 5mths now to get here, hotel isolation for 2 weeks & then find place to live etc). Add to this AD & Talau injured missing all off season & big chunk of the season. We are in a very ugly state.

Normally when you create a strategy you also develop a gliepath which has milestones/success indicators and which then also have plan a/b/c on who/how/what has to happen to get there. You have fortnightly & monthly checkpoints on progression which then leads to cause correction.

Broncos, Bulldogs, Sharks, Warriors have done this well.

We have stuffed it up in a major way to the point established players just don’t want to come here.

Madge said players do want to come, we have a massive amount of cash to spend and yet zero, not 1 NRL top 17 player from the last 3yrs has signed with us for next year. We don’t even have a player who is in the top 30 squads joining us.

Our Reggies offer little in the step up as well.

Last year we had Stefano & Laurie to look forward to seeing this year. Madge talks about bringing kids in but our recruitment on top line kids has also dried up. We don’t even have a kid to look forward to seeing.

It’s like our talent scouts are just focusing on kids to play Flegg or under and hope in 5-6yrs that some (only 9% of Flegg kids make it in NRL) jump up.

Our strategy on youth is great in theory but our operationalization of our strategy is terrible.

Our strategy to never pay overs is great once you have a team people want to join, but again our operationalization of the strategy is terrible

Our coach and coaching staff our trying to enforce structures on players who either can’t play that way or just don’t have the skill. Not once does Madge and the coaching staff coach the team based off the skills/capabilities of the players or have ability to cause correct but hey we train the best ever every week - what more can you train for?

Pascoe has alot of flaws but his business acumen in implementing the financial strategy has been executed brilliantly well considering how bad we are going but he is still able to get money in the kitty.

The reality is though we have no one at the club currently who knows how to implement a football on the park strategy. Sheens role wasn’t actually to do this - his role was on pathways. I’m glad he is now involved based on reviews. I honestly think we need someone like a Bennet with a younger coach under his wing to really drive a change needed, he knows how to transform things and knows how to operationalize a strategy and he knows how to man manage.

Madge has passion, can never deny that. He lives/breathes the game. In his head he knows what is needed to win - his support cast is crap & the way he coaches our team just won’t attrack anyone to the club anytime soon. It’s clear he is lost for ideas and doesn’t know how to cause correct & the playing squad have lost faith.

We can do a cleanout but issue is no one wants to come, if we clean out we have to pay players to play at other clubs and then play for new players undoing all the great work to have a war chest.

Right now we are lost, we have no clear path forward & no end in sight as to when we will see some positives.

The really big positive in all of this is that we've paid the price of getting the cap back into balance, to the point that, the best players on the park will have the higher contract payments, barring injuries of course. This short term pain of having inexperienced players lose games has been well and truly worth it, its given us cap space to go to market, and game time for those players to audition.
I personally think that our coaching staff got the most out of this team of youngsters in 2021, particularly when compared with Bulldags, who had a similar roster.
However, it was a little disappointing that our senior players didn't bite down on the guard and consistently show some more leadership.
What I'd really like to know is, now that we're over the hump. what plans are in place to ensure we dont make the same mistakes? I know Lee said he wouldnt be drawn into commenting or speculating on the future of Madge, and that his and Pascoe's jobs are on the line as well as all board members'.
But are they really???

Interesting that we call our youth in the side as an excuse - will break this down just to show this data:

68 players who are 20yrs or under - we had 3

Of the 52 that are 21 - we had 6 (most in NRL)

Of the 56 that are 22 - we had 3

So for those 22 and under we had 11 out of 176 eligible. Roosters, Manly, Dragons, Titans & Broncos had equal or more than us. Eels & Panthers had 10 each. Rest of the NRL say below that.

Of our 11, 4 are starting roles (Blore, Talau, Stefano, Laurie) which has us with Titans & Eels, and most of the top 8 are at 3. Some of the other clubs have had younger starting numbers during the year but I was using 4 or more games starting to remove SOO.

Great job. Can you do the same review on our senior players?
Maybe use game experience instead of age as the measure.

Before the season started our squad ranked 11th on game experience with 1802.

Teams below us on game experience was
12 - Broncos 1788
13 - Titans 1783
14 - Storm 1755
15 - Bulldogs 1493
16 - Panthers 1230

Roosters, Souths & Raiders had the most. In saying that ***the Roosters included a few players who retired mid season or didn’t play a game - take them out and there numbers fall below ours.***

Pretty misleading stat.

One third of that 1800 games experience is wrapped up in Packer, JTJ and BJ Leilua.

If you add Tamou (267), Brooks (149) and Nofo (139), that is 1,124 games by our worst 6 players.

That leaves 676 games experience throughout the other 24 squad places, an average of 28 games each.

Youngest team in the NRL and lacking in experience

Thanks that was more my point @Mighty_Tiger .
I was hoping to evaluate further to see who. Our most experienced players were (based on games experience rather than age)
And compare them to the remaining 15 teams list of experienced players.
Ie our list of 150+ gamers compared to others.
We’d be short pressed finding a representative in ours compared to maybe at least 4-5 in most others.

 

[Needaname]

I’m not sure many of you have ever met or seen sheens in action. If he comes back he will run the club. No one answers to Sheens. Trust me on this .

What do you mean?

Dominant character he ain’t listening to amateurs.

Do you think he can entice Roycey back to train some steel into this teams weak shoulders?

 

[Magpie_Magic]

One thing for sure is that Sheens, after being away 10 years, life member and all with this COVID thing keeping him from coming I reckon he'll be able to tell in a few hours whats wrong .
Looking at Brisbane a few weeks ago and their players being more of a rabble than ours and I must admit, I didn't see it coming but as soon as Iken went up there all of a sudden the players are putting their bodies on the line for Kevie.

I'm thinking this will be amplified for Sheens. We were unlucky that the Magpies couldn't play and Sheens couldn't come out earlier.

The players will never have it as easy again.

 

[jirskyr]

I’m not sure many of you have ever met or seen sheens in action. If he comes back he will run the club. No one answers to Sheens. Trust me on this .

You mean Sheens answers to no-one?

 

[twentyforty]

I’m not sure many of you have ever met or seen sheens in action. If he comes back he will run the club. No one answers to Sheens. Trust me on this .

You mean Sheens answers to no-one?

? Introduced as a “floater”, ie a bench player to run on when someone is away on holidays ? didn’t make a lot of sense to me, however his role of big kahuna does.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

We finished
2019 - 9th
2020 - 11th
2021 - 13th
If there isn’t change soon 15th or the wooden spoon is waiting for us

It is that bad.
Broncos, Bulldogs, Warriors and Cowboys will be better next year based on recruitment and injured stars back, heck the Warriors will hopefully play at home for the 1st time in 2yrs & have their full squad available week to week.

We are a disaster.


Broncos, Bulldogs and Cowboys share a common problem with WT. All poorly run organisations urgently trying to solve problems created by bad choices.
WT started turning things around before them, so I can’t see us not being ahead of that game. It may not look like it after the Hiding we got from the Bulldogs.
Our future success is more dependent on the choices of our decision makers, whom ever they may be?
A typical organisation develops a proven formula for success, establishes systems and procedures to compliment and drive toward goals of various time horizons. Has motivated people, who are fully aware of their duties and responsibilities, the value of the part they play while being dedicated to achieving the organisation’s goals.
I’m totally convinced we are using a different approach where decisions are not born from collaboration and made by the person responsible, but come about as a result of infighting. The TPJ fiasco was a classic example.
As Lauren previously eluded to, their collective problem solving skills are not inspiring any confidence. One possible reason for this is could be the focus on who is wrong, not what is wrong? Playing the man, not the ball?

Issue I have is the Broncos & Bulldogs are now infront of us.

Our strategy of being a junior haven has merit but no junior with huge talent will stay if they have no support. We are also buying a bunch of kids to jump into Reggies or NRL. The pact of growing up together and coming through the grades together doesn’t exist as such wanting to stick together means little when a club who is competitive & with a fellow support cast comes knocking.

Broncos/Bulldogs and Cowboys have bought NRL starting players, we have bought 2 players from ESL. Both will struggle with the speed & size of the NRL. They also will miss the start of preseason (ESL has 2 more rounds + finals, then they have to get into the country - which has taken Sheens 5mths now to get here, hotel isolation for 2 weeks & then find place to live etc). Add to this AD & Talau injured missing all off season & big chunk of the season. We are in a very ugly state.

Normally when you create a strategy you also develop a gliepath which has milestones/success indicators and which then also have plan a/b/c on who/how/what has to happen to get there. You have fortnightly & monthly checkpoints on progression which then leads to cause correction.

Broncos, Bulldogs, Sharks, Warriors have done this well.

We have stuffed it up in a major way to the point established players just don’t want to come here.

Madge said players do want to come, we have a massive amount of cash to spend and yet zero, not 1 NRL top 17 player from the last 3yrs has signed with us for next year. We don’t even have a player who is in the top 30 squads joining us.

Our Reggies offer little in the step up as well.

Last year we had Stefano & Laurie to look forward to seeing this year. Madge talks about bringing kids in but our recruitment on top line kids has also dried up. We don’t even have a kid to look forward to seeing.

It’s like our talent scouts are just focusing on kids to play Flegg or under and hope in 5-6yrs that some (only 9% of Flegg kids make it in NRL) jump up.

Our strategy on youth is great in theory but our operationalization of our strategy is terrible.

Our strategy to never pay overs is great once you have a team people want to join, but again our operationalization of the strategy is terrible

Our coach and coaching staff our trying to enforce structures on players who either can’t play that way or just don’t have the skill. Not once does Madge and the coaching staff coach the team based off the skills/capabilities of the players or have ability to cause correct but hey we train the best ever every week - what more can you train for?

Pascoe has alot of flaws but his business acumen in implementing the financial strategy has been executed brilliantly well considering how bad we are going but he is still able to get money in the kitty.

The reality is though we have no one at the club currently who knows how to implement a football on the park strategy. Sheens role wasn’t actually to do this - his role was on pathways. I’m glad he is now involved based on reviews. I honestly think we need someone like a Bennet with a younger coach under his wing to really drive a change needed, he knows how to transform things and knows how to operationalize a strategy and he knows how to man manage.

Madge has passion, can never deny that. He lives/breathes the game. In his head he knows what is needed to win - his support cast is crap & the way he coaches our team just won’t attrack anyone to the club anytime soon. It’s clear he is lost for ideas and doesn’t know how to cause correct & the playing squad have lost faith.

We can do a cleanout but issue is no one wants to come, if we clean out we have to pay players to play at other clubs and then play for new players undoing all the great work to have a war chest.

Right now we are lost, we have no clear path forward & no end in sight as to when we will see some positives.

The really big positive in all of this is that we've paid the price of getting the cap back into balance, to the point that, the best players on the park will have the higher contract payments, barring injuries of course. This short term pain of having inexperienced players lose games has been well and truly worth it, its given us cap space to go to market, and game time for those players to audition.
I personally think that our coaching staff got the most out of this team of youngsters in 2021, particularly when compared with Bulldags, who had a similar roster.
However, it was a little disappointing that our senior players didn't bite down on the guard and consistently show some more leadership.
What I'd really like to know is, now that we're over the hump. what plans are in place to ensure we dont make the same mistakes? I know Lee said he wouldnt be drawn into commenting or speculating on the future of Madge, and that his and Pascoe's jobs are on the line as well as all board members'.
But are they really???

Interesting that we call our youth in the side as an excuse - will break this down just to show this data:

68 players who are 20yrs or under - we had 3

Of the 52 that are 21 - we had 6 (most in NRL)

Of the 56 that are 22 - we had 3

So for those 22 and under we had 11 out of 176 eligible. Roosters, Manly, Dragons, Titans & Broncos had equal or more than us. Eels & Panthers had 10 each. Rest of the NRL say below that.

Of our 11, 4 are starting roles (Blore, Talau, Stefano, Laurie) which has us with Titans & Eels, and most of the top 8 are at 3. Some of the other clubs have had younger starting numbers during the year but I was using 4 or more games starting to remove SOO.

Great job. Can you do the same review on our senior players?
Maybe use game experience instead of age as the measure.

Before the season started our squad ranked 11th on game experience with 1802.

Teams below us on game experience was
12 - Broncos 1788
13 - Titans 1783
14 - Storm 1755
15 - Bulldogs 1493
16 - Panthers 1230

Roosters, Souths & Raiders had the most. In saying that ***the Roosters included a few players who retired mid season or didn’t play a game - take them out and there numbers fall below ours.***

Pretty misleading stat.

One third of that 1800 games experience is wrapped up in Packer, JTJ and BJ Leilua.

If you add Tamou (267), Brooks (149) and Nofo (139), that is 1,124 games by our worst 6 players.

That leaves 676 games experience throughout the other 24 squad places, an average of 28 games each.

Youngest team in the NRL and lacking in experience

Thanks that was more my point @Mighty_Tiger .
I was hoping to evaluate further to see who. Our most experienced players were (based on games experience rather than age)
And compare them to the remaining 15 teams list of experienced players.
Ie our list of 150+ gamers compared to others.
We’d be short pressed finding a representative in ours compared to maybe at least 4-5 in most others.

In our squad we had 6 (Packer, Mbye, Tamou, BJ, JTJ, Brooks and Nofa). 4 of those had any real season involvement.
Panthers & Titans only clubs with less active players but another 3 clubs also only had 6 150+ players.

Titans had their 3 active during majority of the season
Panthers only had Api active during the season.

 

[Needaname]

We finished
2019 - 9th
2020 - 11th
2021 - 13th
If there isn’t change soon 15th or the wooden spoon is waiting for us

It is that bad.
Broncos, Bulldogs, Warriors and Cowboys will be better next year based on recruitment and injured stars back, heck the Warriors will hopefully play at home for the 1st time in 2yrs & have their full squad available week to week.

We are a disaster.


Broncos, Bulldogs and Cowboys share a common problem with WT. All poorly run organisations urgently trying to solve problems created by bad choices.
WT started turning things around before them, so I can’t see us not being ahead of that game. It may not look like it after the Hiding we got from the Bulldogs.
Our future success is more dependent on the choices of our decision makers, whom ever they may be?
A typical organisation develops a proven formula for success, establishes systems and procedures to compliment and drive toward goals of various time horizons. Has motivated people, who are fully aware of their duties and responsibilities, the value of the part they play while being dedicated to achieving the organisation’s goals.
I’m totally convinced we are using a different approach where decisions are not born from collaboration and made by the person responsible, but come about as a result of infighting. The TPJ fiasco was a classic example.
As Lauren previously eluded to, their collective problem solving skills are not inspiring any confidence. One possible reason for this is could be the focus on who is wrong, not what is wrong? Playing the man, not the ball?

Issue I have is the Broncos & Bulldogs are now infront of us.

Our strategy of being a junior haven has merit but no junior with huge talent will stay if they have no support. We are also buying a bunch of kids to jump into Reggies or NRL. The pact of growing up together and coming through the grades together doesn’t exist as such wanting to stick together means little when a club who is competitive & with a fellow support cast comes knocking.

Broncos/Bulldogs and Cowboys have bought NRL starting players, we have bought 2 players from ESL. Both will struggle with the speed & size of the NRL. They also will miss the start of preseason (ESL has 2 more rounds + finals, then they have to get into the country - which has taken Sheens 5mths now to get here, hotel isolation for 2 weeks & then find place to live etc). Add to this AD & Talau injured missing all off season & big chunk of the season. We are in a very ugly state.

Normally when you create a strategy you also develop a gliepath which has milestones/success indicators and which then also have plan a/b/c on who/how/what has to happen to get there. You have fortnightly & monthly checkpoints on progression which then leads to cause correction.

Broncos, Bulldogs, Sharks, Warriors have done this well.

We have stuffed it up in a major way to the point established players just don’t want to come here.

Madge said players do want to come, we have a massive amount of cash to spend and yet zero, not 1 NRL top 17 player from the last 3yrs has signed with us for next year. We don’t even have a player who is in the top 30 squads joining us.

Our Reggies offer little in the step up as well.

Last year we had Stefano & Laurie to look forward to seeing this year. Madge talks about bringing kids in but our recruitment on top line kids has also dried up. We don’t even have a kid to look forward to seeing.

It’s like our talent scouts are just focusing on kids to play Flegg or under and hope in 5-6yrs that some (only 9% of Flegg kids make it in NRL) jump up.

Our strategy on youth is great in theory but our operationalization of our strategy is terrible.

Our strategy to never pay overs is great once you have a team people want to join, but again our operationalization of the strategy is terrible

Our coach and coaching staff our trying to enforce structures on players who either can’t play that way or just don’t have the skill. Not once does Madge and the coaching staff coach the team based off the skills/capabilities of the players or have ability to cause correct but hey we train the best ever every week - what more can you train for?

Pascoe has alot of flaws but his business acumen in implementing the financial strategy has been executed brilliantly well considering how bad we are going but he is still able to get money in the kitty.

The reality is though we have no one at the club currently who knows how to implement a football on the park strategy. Sheens role wasn’t actually to do this - his role was on pathways. I’m glad he is now involved based on reviews. I honestly think we need someone like a Bennet with a younger coach under his wing to really drive a change needed, he knows how to transform things and knows how to operationalize a strategy and he knows how to man manage.

Madge has passion, can never deny that. He lives/breathes the game. In his head he knows what is needed to win - his support cast is crap & the way he coaches our team just won’t attrack anyone to the club anytime soon. It’s clear he is lost for ideas and doesn’t know how to cause correct & the playing squad have lost faith.

We can do a cleanout but issue is no one wants to come, if we clean out we have to pay players to play at other clubs and then play for new players undoing all the great work to have a war chest.

Right now we are lost, we have no clear path forward & no end in sight as to when we will see some positives.

The really big positive in all of this is that we've paid the price of getting the cap back into balance, to the point that, the best players on the park will have the higher contract payments, barring injuries of course. This short term pain of having inexperienced players lose games has been well and truly worth it, its given us cap space to go to market, and game time for those players to audition.
I personally think that our coaching staff got the most out of this team of youngsters in 2021, particularly when compared with Bulldags, who had a similar roster.
However, it was a little disappointing that our senior players didn't bite down on the guard and consistently show some more leadership.
What I'd really like to know is, now that we're over the hump. what plans are in place to ensure we dont make the same mistakes? I know Lee said he wouldnt be drawn into commenting or speculating on the future of Madge, and that his and Pascoe's jobs are on the line as well as all board members'.
But are they really???

Interesting that we call our youth in the side as an excuse - will break this down just to show this data:

68 players who are 20yrs or under - we had 3

Of the 52 that are 21 - we had 6 (most in NRL)

Of the 56 that are 22 - we had 3

So for those 22 and under we had 11 out of 176 eligible. Roosters, Manly, Dragons, Titans & Broncos had equal or more than us. Eels & Panthers had 10 each. Rest of the NRL say below that.

Of our 11, 4 are starting roles (Blore, Talau, Stefano, Laurie) which has us with Titans & Eels, and most of the top 8 are at 3. Some of the other clubs have had younger starting numbers during the year but I was using 4 or more games starting to remove SOO.

Great job. Can you do the same review on our senior players?
Maybe use game experience instead of age as the measure.

Before the season started our squad ranked 11th on game experience with 1802.

Teams below us on game experience was
12 - Broncos 1788
13 - Titans 1783
14 - Storm 1755
15 - Bulldogs 1493
16 - Panthers 1230

Roosters, Souths & Raiders had the most. In saying that ***the Roosters included a few players who retired mid season or didn’t play a game - take them out and there numbers fall below ours.***

Pretty misleading stat.

One third of that 1800 games experience is wrapped up in Packer, JTJ and BJ Leilua.

If you add Tamou (267), Brooks (149) and Nofo (139), that is 1,124 games by our worst 6 players.

That leaves 676 games experience throughout the other 24 squad places, an average of 28 games each.

Youngest team in the NRL and lacking in experience

Thanks that was more my point @Mighty_Tiger .
I was hoping to evaluate further to see who. Our most experienced players were (based on games experience rather than age)
And compare them to the remaining 15 teams list of experienced players.
Ie our list of 150+ gamers compared to others.
We’d be short pressed finding a representative in ours compared to maybe at least 4-5 in most others.

In our squad we had 6 (Packer, Mbye, Tamou, BJ, JTJ, Brooks and Nofa). 4 of those had any real season involvement.
Panthers & Titans only clubs with less active players but another 3 clubs also only had 6 150+ players.

Titans had their 3 active during majority of the season
Panthers only had Api active during the season.

Thanks.
Starting to paint the picture a bit.

The worst team in the comp had;
Hopeate (former nsw winger, Tongan centre)
Jackson (former nsw backrower)
Napa (former Queensland prop)
Ava (former Samoan prop)
Thompson (Great Britain prop)

Only Thompson didn’t play in the final quarter of the season.

Our second half of the season we had
Brooks (no rep)
Nofa (former, Samoan winger)
Tamou (former Australian NSW prop)
MBye (former origin centre)

You replace
Jackson with MBye and Hopeate with Nofa and possibly even Tamou with Napa (due to durability)

I wonder if we would of finished better?

 

[happy_tiger]

I’m not sure many of you have ever met or seen sheens in action. If he comes back he will run the club. No one answers to Sheens. Trust me on this .

What do you mean?

Dominant character he ain’t listening to amateurs.

You mean Sheens answers to no one ???

 

[WswWt]

I hate the crap excuse of “the front office”. The front office don’t coach the players into missing tackles and where they place their 5th tackle kicks.

Guess Jack Gibson was wrong then. And politis does nothing for Easts. Give us a break

Well Politis recruits well.. he doesn’t coach his team do tackle does he? As first grade players earning 200k+++ they should know how to defend

 

[tiger_one]

Here's another "review" this one by The Mole:

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/the-mole-wests-tigers-season-review-2021-jackson-hastings-signing/7c8638c2-ee76-471f-b394-3d5634d1da22?fbclid=IwAR2u6fFDJlEhkvE1pVBGGXHuRZu6RLjLgF5kZ7qZodIZ6yxLGJN95aO6Miw

The Mole: 'Tall order' for Jackson Hastings to turn Tigers around in 2022
By The Mole


Tigers fans tired of coming ninth year after year wanted change in 2021 - and they got it - but not the kind of change they were hoping for.

Instead of just missing the finals yet again, the Tigers had a disastrous year, culminating in the record last-round thrashing from wooden spooners Canterbury that consigned them to 13th spot.

That woeful finale confirmed what many had suspected all season - that there is a rift between the playing group and coach Michael Maguire and club management.

Poor recruitment for the past several years, the longest finals drought of any club in the NRL and the ill-fated behind-the-scenes documentary series on the team combined to make the Tigers something of a standing joke in the NRL in 2021.

The club is currently undergoing an internal review - and the results should be fascinating.
Adam Doueihi was one of the few positives for the Wests Tigers in 2021.

Amidst the ruins, there were some positives. Adam Doueihi came of age and proved himself a team leader - but will miss at least half of next year through injury. Daine Laurie was a fine gain from Penrith before he too fell to injury.

Stefano Utoikamanu was a real find up front and should be the club's forward leader in years to come.

The Tigers have already culled some dead wood but have some big calls to make in coming weeks - especially on Maguire and enigmatic halfback Luke Brooks.

Best player: Doueihi proved a jack-of-all-trades, filling in at just about every backline position and doing a good job. An on-field talker and deep thinker on the game, he should captain the Tigers when he returns from injury.

Biggest disappointment: Joey Leilua has always had the talent but a hot head, poor discipline and fitness issues made him a liability in 2021. Despite his obvious ability, it was the only call to make to cut him loose for next season.

Key signing: Jackson Hastings shapes as the Tigers' great white hope after being a standout player in Super League for the past couple of seasons. But whether he can lift this Tigers outfit to finals football remains to be seen - it's a tall order given the events of 2021.

Gains: Jackson Hastings (Wigan), Oliver Gildart (Wigan)

Losses: Moses Mbye (Dragons), Billy Walters (Broncos), Russell Packer (retired), Joey Leilua (released), Michael Chee Kam (released).

 

[GNR4LIFE]

That may be the most pathetic gains column I have ever seen.

 

[tony soprano]

This makes me sick done with this pathetic club

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/lee-hagipantelis-on-why-the-tigers-arent-conducting/id1536354910?i=1000534629285

 

[Aceshigh]

Yea it could certainly do with a name or 3 added mate , am sure there will be but not all going to be happy .I remember when Jason Saab was spoke about earlier and there were plenty of doubters on here but that’s the beauty of this forum , can’t please everyone

 

[avocadoontoast]

That may be the most pathetic gains column I have ever seen.

It’s unbelievable isn’t it. Money coming out of our ears and were unable to spend it

 

[The_Patriot]

Can someone shove a mic in the face of Brooks and Nofo.

Two of our most senior players and they go to ground every time there are dramas at the club.

I want to hear what they have to say

At least Lucy and Tahmou have the courage to speak up

 

[pawsandclaws1]

This makes me sick done with this pathetic club

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/lee-hagipantelis-on-why-the-tigers-arent-conducting/id1536354910?i=1000534629285

Thanks for posting it. If the review achieves the outcomes I will be happy. There are some well qualified individuals involved in it.

 

[tony soprano]

This makes me sick done with this pathetic club

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/lee-hagipantelis-on-why-the-tigers-arent-conducting/id1536354910?i=1000534629285

Thanks for posting it. If the review achieves the outcomes I will be happy. There are some well qualified individuals involved in it.

Yeah pascoe and hartigan won't be happy until they are gone.

 

[jadtiger]

This makes me sick done with this pathetic club

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/lee-hagipantelis-on-why-the-tigers-arent-conducting/id1536354910?i=1000534629285

What a load of manure.Still i am sure the madge crucifiction brigade will love it