Tigers future

[jirskyr]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

 

[cochise]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

It's not even a drop in the ocean. $300M would offset approx 10 thousand completed undergrad university degrees ($10K per year for 3 years undergrad - and this is already government subsidised).

In 2020 76K kids completed the HSC, so you could fund ~13% of university degrees of one year of school leavers, with $300M.

Even if you then made it dependent on income, whose income - the now 18-year old adult, or the parents? There are already subsidies for Abstudy, Austudy (if they are still called that) etc.

It is also a 30 year asset

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

If by raging socialism you are referring to support for the following, one could suggest you must be viewing things from well off centre.



The introduction of the Racial Discrimination Act conferred equal rights to equality before the law

The Department of Aboriginal Affairs being set up and the first Commonwealth legislation drafted to grant land rights to Indigenous Australians was drafted

Land Title Deeds were handed to the Guirindji people in the NT, a real and symbolic gesture which became the a touchstone for the land rights movement'

The voting age was reduced to 18

Introduction of Medibank, forunner to Medicare

Withdrawal of Aust troops in Vietnam

Social welfare reforms including introduction of single Mother's benefit and welfare payments to homeless people.

Equal pay for women.

The death penalty for Commonwealth Offences abolished.

Independence for PNG.

Introduction of the Family Law Act providing for a National Family Court

Free university education, with participation increased by 25%, the main beneficiaries being women.

The National Sewerage Programme connected houses to sewerage.

Advance Australia Fair replaced God Save The Queen.

The Order of Australia replaced the British Honours System.

 

[jirskyr]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

If by raging socialism you are referring to support for the following, one could suggest you must be viewing things from well off centre.



The introduction of the Racial Discrimination Act conferred equal rights to equality before the law

The Department of Aboriginal Affairs being set up and the first Commonwealth legislation drafted to grant land rights to Indigenous Australians was drafted

Land Title Deeds were handed to the Guirindji people in the NT, a real and symbolic gesture which became the a touchstone for the land rights movement'

The voting age was reduced to 18

Introduction of Medibank, forunner to Medicare

Withdrawal of Aust troops in Vietnam

Social welfare reforms including introduction of single Mother's benefit and welfare payments to homeless people.

Equal pay for women.

The death penalty for Commonwealth Offences abolished.

Independence for PNG.

Introduction of the Family Law Act providing for a National Family Court

Free university education, with participation increased by 25%, the main beneficiaries being women.

The National Sewerage Programme connected houses to sewerage.

Advance Australia Fair replaced God Save The Queen.

The Order of Australia replaced the British Honours System.

What does this have to do with the topic at hand?

 

[tiger_one]

The only Tigers future I wanna think about is beating Cleary on Friday.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

Govt intervention into the economy to fund and build a new football stadium would certainly be considered socialistic. It is ironic you pick and chose when the situation requires it. I would have thought you would espouse the virtues of the free market with WTs coming to the table with its own funding for the proposal.

As for $300m being 'a drop on the ocean', well it seems a heck of a lot of money to spend when increased education of the workforce will get you bigger bang for your buck.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

If by raging socialism you are referring to support for the following, one could suggest you must be viewing things from well off centre.



The introduction of the Racial Discrimination Act conferred equal rights to equality before the law

The Department of Aboriginal Affairs being set up and the first Commonwealth legislation drafted to grant land rights to Indigenous Australians was drafted

Land Title Deeds were handed to the Guirindji people in the NT, a real and symbolic gesture which became the a touchstone for the land rights movement'

The voting age was reduced to 18

Introduction of Medibank, forunner to Medicare

Withdrawal of Aust troops in Vietnam

Social welfare reforms including introduction of single Mother's benefit and welfare payments to homeless people.

Equal pay for women.

The death penalty for Commonwealth Offences abolished.

Independence for PNG.

Introduction of the Family Law Act providing for a National Family Court

Free university education, with participation increased by 25%, the main beneficiaries being women.

The National Sewerage Programme connected houses to sewerage.

Advance Australia Fair replaced God Save The Queen.

The Order of Australia replaced the British Honours System.

What does this have to do with the topic at hand?

Exactly what I wrote. Attending university for free came in a package of improvements to social welfare, gender equality, land rights (among other significant initiatives) that we now take for granted in Aust. These came from a left leaning Govt or as you throw about 'raging socialism'. Try and take most of these away now and you can imagine the reaction.

 

[cochise]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

Govt intervention into the economy to fund and build a new football stadium would certainly be considered socialistic. It is ironic you pick and chose when the situation requires it. I would have thought you would espouse the virtues of the free market with WTs coming to the table with its own funding for the proposal.

As for $300m being 'a drop on the ocean', well it seems a heck of a lot of money to spend when increased education of the workforce will get you bigger bang for your buck.

The thing is, it is not a lot of money to spend and you wouldn't get 'bigger bang for your buck'. It would not make a noticeable difference. Free University education also has disadvantages as well but this isn't the thread for that discussion.

 

[jirskyr]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

If by raging socialism you are referring to support for the following, one could suggest you must be viewing things from well off centre.



The introduction of the Racial Discrimination Act conferred equal rights to equality before the law

The Department of Aboriginal Affairs being set up and the first Commonwealth legislation drafted to grant land rights to Indigenous Australians was drafted

Land Title Deeds were handed to the Guirindji people in the NT, a real and symbolic gesture which became the a touchstone for the land rights movement'

The voting age was reduced to 18

Introduction of Medibank, forunner to Medicare

Withdrawal of Aust troops in Vietnam

Social welfare reforms including introduction of single Mother's benefit and welfare payments to homeless people.

Equal pay for women.

The death penalty for Commonwealth Offences abolished.

Independence for PNG.

Introduction of the Family Law Act providing for a National Family Court

Free university education, with participation increased by 25%, the main beneficiaries being women.

The National Sewerage Programme connected houses to sewerage.

Advance Australia Fair replaced God Save The Queen.

The Order of Australia replaced the British Honours System.

What does this have to do with the topic at hand?

Exactly what I wrote. Attending university for free came in a package of improvements to social welfare, gender equality, land rights (among other significant initiatives) that we now take for granted in Aust. These came from a left leaning Govt or as you throw about 'raging socialism'. Try and take most of these away now and you can imagine the reaction.

No I didn't say any of your list is raging socialism, I said you can be a raging socialist and still build a football stadium - i.e. not all your money has to go to education and healthcare.

 

[earl]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

Baloney, what baloney. Nobody is saying you can't be a raging Socialist and still have a new football stadium.

If by raging socialism you are referring to support for the following, one could suggest you must be viewing things from well off centre.



The introduction of the Racial Discrimination Act conferred equal rights to equality before the law

The Department of Aboriginal Affairs being set up and the first Commonwealth legislation drafted to grant land rights to Indigenous Australians was drafted

Land Title Deeds were handed to the Guirindji people in the NT, a real and symbolic gesture which became the a touchstone for the land rights movement'

The voting age was reduced to 18

Introduction of Medibank, forunner to Medicare

Withdrawal of Aust troops in Vietnam

Social welfare reforms including introduction of single Mother's benefit and welfare payments to homeless people.

Equal pay for women.

The death penalty for Commonwealth Offences abolished.

Independence for PNG.

Introduction of the Family Law Act providing for a National Family Court

Free university education, with participation increased by 25%, the main beneficiaries being women.

The National Sewerage Programme connected houses to sewerage.

Advance Australia Fair replaced God Save The Queen.

The Order of Australia replaced the British Honours System.

What does this have to do with the topic at hand?

Exactly what I wrote. Attending university for free came in a package of improvements to social welfare, gender equality, land rights (among other significant initiatives) that we now take for granted in Aust. These came from a left leaning Govt or as you throw about 'raging socialism'. Try and take most of these away now and you can imagine the reaction.

No I didn't say any of your list is raging socialism, I said you can be a raging socialist and still build a football stadium - i.e. not all your money has to go to education and healthcare.

This is a fair comment. It's just a judgement call on where the money is best spent. I love education but I'd much prefer a winning Tigers team. I'd like to see some of that $300m directed towards off salary cap payments.