Tigers Leagues development update

[Kul]

Beaten Rozelle project back at twice the size
Amy Mcneilage
April 19, 2012
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A DEVELOPER wants to nearly double the size of a controversial redevelopment of the Balmain Leagues Club site, despite his last plan falling over because it was too big.
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Documents made public yesterday reveal the Rozelle Village project will cost more than $300 million and include two residential towers of 25 to 32 storeys, as well as a five- to six-storey commercial complex housing the Balmain Leagues Club.
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The proposal has provoked outrage among community members who say it shows a complete disregard for their concerns.
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A smaller version of the project was rejected by a joint regional planning panel in 2010 due to concerns about traffic congestion, its size and effects on local businesses.
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The former Labor government declared the site ''state significant'' and the proposal is in the hands of the NSW Department of Infrastructure and Planning, where its future will be decided by the Planning Assessment Commission. Consequently, the controls that previously restricted the size of the development no longer apply.
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The revised design increases the number of units from 145 to 304 and the number of parking spaces from 467 to 834\. The total residential and commercial floor space is 55,000 square metres. The site has been expanded to incorporate two neighbouring properties and the plan no longer includes a footbridge over Victoria Road.
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A residents action group said the modified plan showed contempt for the community. "There were nearly 300 submissions opposing it on a number of items and all of those items [have been] totally disregarded," a spokesman for the Rozelle residents action group, David Anderson, said. The developer said it had responded to concerns about the "bulky" structure by designing a taller, more slender building.
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"We're confident the community consultation we did over the last two years has driven the design," the managing director of Rozelle Village, Ian Wright, said.
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The Balmain state Greens MP, Jamie Parker, said he had responded to community concern by securing a commitment from the minister for planning to extend the exhibition period to 60 days. The period began yesterday.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/beaten-roz…#ixzz1sP9Gjq6g

plans here https://majorprojects.affinitylive.com/public/a082d84df65cba7846da054db9831238/AppendT-ArchDesignReport-Floorplans-Elevations-Sections.pdf

tbh, it's a little big 😱pen_mouth:

 

[Kul]

You have to laugh at the locals who opposed the original modestly sized plan for being 'too big'.

 

[innsaneink]

To be honest, imo…its ugly, does not fit in the local landscape...too big and sticks out like you know whats.
The local business community will suffer, not many areas left with the main street the hub of the local community, big shopping centres tend to kill these off...you lose a lot of community feel and spirit.

 

[system]

This kind of residential space is what you want closer to the cities and major rail hubs.

If anything I would like to see it with less commercial space and more residential but thats just my thoughts.

Urban sprawl is what is choking our city wasting billions of dollars trying to play catch up with infrastructure. We are a city where town planning has come a very poor fourth place behind the wants of developers, the McMansion dwelling bogan, Gren activists and toll road designers.

Higher density housing is a far greener sollution than someone who hikes to work via car from Rouse Hill every work day.

 

[Benjirific]

To be honest, imo…its ugly, does not fit in the local landscape...too big and sticks out like you know whats.
The local business community will suffer, not many areas left with the main street the hub of the local community, big shopping centres tend to kill these off...you lose a lot of community feel and spirit.

There is no local business community anyway, and there hasn't been one for a good 15 years! If anything, this development will reinvigorate a dying area.

I've lived three streets away from the leagues club for the whole of my life, and the community 'disgust' for this project is coming from greeny types who have moved in in the past 5 years and don't understand that a couple of galleries and op shops is not a 'high street'.
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This kind of residential space is what you want closer to the cities and major rail hubs.

If anything I would like to see it with less commercial space and more residential but thats just my thoughts.

Urban sprawl is what is choking our city wasting billions of dollars trying to play catch up with infrastructure. We are a city where town planning has come a very poor fourth place behind the wants of developers, the McMansion dwelling bogan, Gren activists and toll road designers.

Higher density housing is a far greener solution than someone who hikes to work via car from Rouse Hill every work day.

Agree completely. That is why the scrapping of the Metro, no matter how flawed that plan was, is so stupid as it lined up perfectly with this project, and similar ones along the line. There is a need for more high density residential areas close to infrastructure, and I think that could work in their favour when the State planning commission looks at it, rather than the Green council, who would rather oppose EVERYTHING and let the area completely die off to a bunch of pompus (SELF EDIT) who think they own the area after living here for 18 months.

 

[Adman]

This kind of residential space is what you want closer to the cities and major rail hubs.

If anything I would like to see it with less commercial space and more residential but thats just my thoughts.

Urban sprawl is what is choking our city wasting billions of dollars trying to play catch up with infrastructure. We are a city where town planning has come a very poor fourth place behind the wants of developers, the McMansion dwelling bogan, Gren activists and toll road designers.

Higher density housing is a far greener sollution than someone who hikes to work via car from Rouse Hill every work day.

Great comment. Build up near the city. SYdney has stretched itself too thin.

 

[Ausmunin]

I like the development but not the location. As some have mentioned there is no public transport besides busses on an already choked up system.

 

[cktiger]

I like the development but not the location. As some have mentioned there is no public transport besides busses on an already choked up system.

Light rail to the rescue?

 

[Kul]



This is a big building!

RL at ground level is 35m, so these babies top at 110m & 89m
For those playing at home, that's the same as Goldfields House, the Four Seasons or the Law Courts


 

[quintus]

We will rise from the ashes one day. I just hope that I'm still around to see the completed project. :smiley:

 

[Tiger_Watto]

yep, just build it… If it was down on Parramatta Road end of Leichhardt, it would be up by now. It will breathe some life into the Rozelle area!

From the Penthouse, you would probably see past Leichhardt Oval down Norton Street...

 

[dermo]

To be honest, imo…its ugly, does not fit in the local landscape...too big and sticks out like you know whats.
The local business community will suffer, not many areas left with the main street the hub of the local community, big shopping centres tend to kill these off...you lose a lot of community feel and spirit.

I see where your coming from but delaying this project is simply delaying the inevitable, once the old power station at White bay is knocked over and large buildings go up there, it won't stick out to much. Now I lived in Balmain for 15 years but as some others have already said it is the greeny wankers who moved to Balmain in the last 5 years who are protesting this and they are the ones who already killed the community. And the irony is that High density residency's close to the CBD are actually more green than having the working population living an hour drive from the city.

 

[innsaneink]

To be honest, imo…its ugly, does not fit in the local landscape...too big and sticks out like you know whats.
The local business community will suffer, not many areas left with the main street the hub of the local community, big shopping centres tend to kill these off...you lose a lot of community feel and spirit.

There is no local business community anyway, and there hasn't been one for a good 15 years! If anything, this development will reinvigorate a dying area.

I've lived three streets away from the leagues club for the whole of my life, and the community 'disgust' for this project is coming from greeny types who have moved in in the past 5 years and don't understand that a couple of galleries and op shops is not a 'high street'.

Geez mate I dunno….dont live in the area but often headed to Birchgrove Oval on a Sunday morning during footy season, the strip from Victoria rd down that way was always alive, people everywhere, businesses open...40km/h zone for a main road its that crowded

This sort of thing will see me leave the city when I finish work...OK for some, not for me.

 

[2041]

This kind of residential space is what you want closer to the cities and major rail hubs.

If anything I would like to see it with less commercial space and more residential but thats just my thoughts.

Urban sprawl is what is choking our city wasting billions of dollars trying to play catch up with infrastructure. We are a city where town planning has come a very poor fourth place behind the wants of developers, the McMansion dwelling bogan, Gren activists and toll road designers.

Higher density housing is a far greener sollution than someone who hikes to work via car from Rouse Hill every work day.

Well said. If Sydney wants to be a vibrant, modern city with the kind of cultural and entertainment environment that attracts visitors and investment, it needs to get out of the endless suburban sprawl mentality. There's a reason why people want to move to New York and not Houston, and it isn't the weather.

 

[dermo]

To be honest, imo…its ugly, does not fit in the local landscape...too big and sticks out like you know whats.
The local business community will suffer, not many areas left with the main street the hub of the local community, big shopping centres tend to kill these off...you lose a lot of community feel and spirit.

There is no local business community anyway, and there hasn't been one for a good 15 years! If anything, this development will reinvigorate a dying area.

I've lived three streets away from the leagues club for the whole of my life, and the community 'disgust' for this project is coming from greeny types who have moved in in the past 5 years and don't understand that a couple of galleries and op shops is not a 'high street'.

Geez mate I dunno….dont live in the area but often headed to Birchgrove Oval on a Sunday morning during footy season, the strip from Victoria rd down that way was always alive, people everywhere, businesses open...40km/h zone for a main road its that crowded

This sort of thing will see me leave the city when I finish work...OK for some, not for me.

I can tell you though majority of those people dont live in Balmain, I lived a street away from Darling street and every sunday morning i would wake up to an abundence of foreign cars parked on my street

 

[innsaneink]

How can you tell where theyre from?

 

[andrew 474]

did you buy your house and the street , people can park in streets

 

[innsaneink]

Looks like there may be a bit on this soon on TEN News

 

[glebe_tiger]

i actually do live in the area now and i only check my letterbox once a week. a letter from planning and infrastructure shows outline of the plan and if people want to make submissions - watch all the greeny tools let loose with the plan now, its massive. there was a another letter from the local greens member jamie parker who looks like a right knobhead having his two cents heard to make sure that the inner westies have their say on how their area should not be spoiled by anything that isnt terraced or heritage listed. if it got knocked back last time being smaller they obviously know that this time around it will probably get through. someone was saying that when the powerstation goes massive developments will be in the area anyway, no use holding out now hoping the area will stay like it is forever. high density urban living close to the city is the way to go, there might not be the transport but if there are 6 buses now that go every hour to the city then turn that into 10 buses every hour after the development….

 

[Kul]

Surry Hills, particularly around the Campbell/Crown/Burke street area is a perfect example of how you CAN have larger density building nestled in with terraces and such, plus making it work.