Tigers should be heavyweights

All well and good for these flogs in the media to continually go over the same territory but why not call out the bozo who wanted to recruit the likes of Packer, Reynolds and Mbye. Im sure he convinced Pascoe and the board they were good buys and exactly what the club needed but it is in actual fact the opposite of what he is trying to achieve at the Riff. He has the experience there that he needs in Fisher Harris, Yeo and Tetavano now he can move the young guys through without the same issues we have. Tamou is playing better football at an older age than Packer so should be good for those two years we have him. BJ was supposed to be that experienced leader in the backs but is just fat and lazy and needs to go.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236447) said:
When did Jack usurp Elias as the Balmain rent-a-quote?

They’re both terrible. What’s with the Balmain old boys talking crap about the club constantly. Don’t see them coming to help out they’re happy to give quotes to the paper though
 
But we are rebuilding the strategy. We are investing mostly in youth, all across the squad. Reynolds and Packer don't count, we know buying them was mistakes.

But we do need Tamou now, without him (and without Packer who is not a regular starter in our First Grade side) our oldest forward is like 24 yrs old! We need at least one experienced forward, the rest can be young, that's fine.
 
Our squad included Tedesco, Brooks, Moses, Farah, Nofo, Richards, Taupau, Woods, Sironen, Koroibete, Fulton, Blair, Thompson, Gavet when Pascoe was joining the club. I'd say he has done a terrible job at making sure our lineup doesn't deteriorate and keeping young talent. Need smart management at the top.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236451) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236447) said:
When did Jack usurp Elias as the Balmain rent-a-quote?

They’re both terrible. What’s with the Balmain old boys talking crap about the club constantly. Don’t see them coming to help out they’re happy to give quotes to the paper though

I think they are just sharing the frustration that we all feel. Huge, loyal and tortured supporter base just wanting to have something to cheer about come semi final time
 
@Telltails said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236454) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236451) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236447) said:
When did Jack usurp Elias as the Balmain rent-a-quote?

They’re both terrible. What’s with the Balmain old boys talking crap about the club constantly. Don’t see them coming to help out they’re happy to give quotes to the paper though

I think they are just sharing the frustration that we all feel. Huge loyal and tortured supporter base just wanting to have something to be cheer about come semi final time

There’s no need for them to stick their nose in everything the tigers do and whinge to the papers about it

They need to realise that talking to the papers does not help the club at all, in fact all it does it make things worse. If they’re that concerned about the club, get in contact with Madge and see how they can help.

Both Jack and Elias were terrific players I’m sure they could help the boys at training
 
Not sure I can blame Pascoe.

He didn't fire Sheens, He didn't hire or fire Mick Potter, he didn't hire JT. Most of our issues stem from the latter part of that tenure.

He did fire JT, took a 6 month hit for Farah, and hire Cleary - who at the time seemed like the best option available and one in which 99% of this forum supported. Cleary signed these nuffies and as most CEO's, he endorsed the coaches wish list.

His mate stabbed him fair in the back. No one saw it coming, least of all him.

He has dragged the joint venture from a mess into a profitable (still mess) but getting less messy by the day. Why anyone thinks rugby league cultures and mistaken signings can be fixed in a week is beyond me.

At this point in time, WT is aiming in a better direction. Good strong clubs aren't built on lucky decisions. They are built on strong business networks and sound financial decisions.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him
 
This isn't the first time we've been referred to as "the sleeping giant".

Pretty big supporter base, lots of juniors.....I don't know looking back, we didn't recover losing Prince and we didn't recover losing our chance in 2011.

Benji lost his way, some poor off field decisions were made, some players seemed to be dictating how things should go.

I reckon even if we'd won in 2010 and/or 2011, we'd probably be in this same predicament.

It seems like things are under more control though in the back room and that they are trying to fix and change the culture of a club that's been stuck for nearly 9 years.
 
What always bothers me is the juniors side of thing. As they said our junior nursery is huge, we are a popular club yet in years gone by the club seems to ignore that side of it. We should have a team like Penriths full of talented juniors instead they all go to other clubs early on
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236464) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him

I love how people say Pascoe made us a profit of 100k but cost the club a fine of 375k and handicapped us of 640k out of the salary cap ..
Needed to be punted then ...and now
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236464) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him

He's made a profit once, of $100k, he's on to his 3rd full time coach since he joined, we're in a salary cap mess and am now just getting over a huge fine that he was solely responsible for. We also haven't made the finals in the 5 years he's been here.

Furthermore, on the day of the Marshall news instead of him getting on the front foot to get in front of the cameras and explain the situation he sends Nofo and Aloiai out instead. Where was he?
 
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236470) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236464) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him

I love how people say Pascoe made us a profit of 100k but cost the club a fine of 375k and handicapped us of 640k out of the salary cap ..
Needed to be punted then ...and now

The NRL pays for the salary cap, while the fine was bad it’s not like the club literally pays for it. We still ran a profit.
 
Every time I watch a game with someone who doesn't know NRL they say 'wow that guy is amazing!' I say, he used to play for Tigers. They say 'Oh really? wow' We haven't managed to retain one superstar we developed. Fire him lol. We are debating how Benji has affected the team but man, he isn't the CEO. CEO is a dud. A milhouse. We got the dud.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236472) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236470) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236464) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him

I love how people say Pascoe made us a profit of 100k but cost the club a fine of 375k and handicapped us of 640k out of the salary cap ..
Needed to be punted then ...and now

The NRL pays for the salary cap, while the fine was bad it’s not like the club literally pays for it. We still ran a profit.

Pretty sure we had to work on a reduced cap and issued a fine on top of that.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236472) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236470) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236464) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him

I love how people say Pascoe made us a profit of 100k but cost the club a fine of 375k and handicapped us of 640k out of the salary cap ..
Needed to be punted then ...and now

The NRL pays for the salary cap, while the fine was bad it’s not like the club literally pays for it. We still ran a profit.

Yeah but his ineptness cost us $640k off our playing roster ..
He’s useless...and we still have 11 home grounds .
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236471) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236464) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236462) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236461) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236459) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers should be heavyweights](/post/1236445) said:
Same article different journo. I’ve read this article ten times a year for the last ten seasons.

And it's still as relevant as ever. BTW the comments about Pascoe are bang on. He needs to go.

Always is relevant but do we really need these articles pumped out 15 times a year when they’re all the exact same.

I don’t have an issue with Pascoe personally. I find it hard to blame on field issues and player recruitment on him when it’s not his job. Business wise he’s improved the club massively.

He's completely out of his depth. Any other club would have sacked him years ago. He's hopeless.

Meh, the numbers say otherwise. Profits, membership numbers, crowd numbers, tv ratings, merchandise sales all on the up.COVID might affect all that but from 2018-2019 we improved all of that. As much as you joke about the COE he’s helped bring that in too.

I wouldn’t be upset if he was shown the door as whatever CEO comes in should have a good platform to work with and as long as they’re not completely inept should continue the growth of our club. Would understand it from a footy point of view too. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens with him

He's made a profit once, of $100k, he's on to his 3rd full time coach since he joined, we're in a salary cap mess and am now just getting over a huge fine that he was solely responsible for. We also haven't made the finals in the 5 years he's been here.

Furthermore, on the day of the Marshall news instead of him getting on the front foot to get in front of the cameras and explain the situation he sends Nofo and Aloiai out instead. Where was he?

He made a profit once is pretty big when before he joined the club was no where near making a profit. Slowly over the years he turned us from being big time negative to running a profit even if it’s small.

He never hired Taylor, sacked him which needed to be done brought in Ivan who is a good coach and Ivan stabbed the club and his mate in the back not really Pascoes fault.

The salary cap fine is definitely on him and that’s definitely bad from him, as for signing players that’s not really his job is it? That’s on the coach and the football department along with the entire board to approve player signings, to solely blame him for it is incredibly harsh when he probably had the least to do with it out of all those mentioned.

The Benji situation was a tough one. I’m assuming Benji went to the media to put an article out to try push the club into making a decision over him and they did. If you thought Justin himself should’ve faced the media that’s fair enough that’s your opinion but it didn’t really bother me that Madge and the players talked about it to the media.
 

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