Tigers should be heavyweights

[Russell]

I like the way Jack puts down the old Magpies! He talks about culture and like showing the young kids the right way. Yeah , just like the culture he instilled in his son Kieran , who didn’t even invite Jack or his wife to his 200th AFL game. Ahhhh.... Balmain culture!!
Balmain who ????
Jack doesn’t realise who pays the bills !!!!

Let's not start all that crap again. We are Wests Tigers, aren't we?

No we are Balmain Tigers ?

That thinking is why we don't do better - there is NO Balmain Tigers in the NRL mate.

Don't know who you are supporting!

 

[cochise]

I like the way Jack puts down the old Magpies! He talks about culture and like showing the young kids the right way. Yeah , just like the culture he instilled in his son Kieran , who didn’t even invite Jack or his wife to his 200th AFL game. Ahhhh.... Balmain culture!!
Balmain who ????
Jack doesn’t realise who pays the bills !!!!

Let's not start all that crap again. We are Wests Tigers, aren't we?

No we are Balmain Tigers ?

I think that is the 1st time I have ever downvoted a post. We are the Wests Tigers!!! I hate this type of rubbish.

 

[jadtiger]

Completely agree with the last 2 posts,anybody thinking in terms of Balmain Tigers of Western Suburbs Magpies is living in the past.Most of us fondly remember our old foundation clubs{Balmain in my case} but my club and team now is WT and will be till i die.
Its just sad some dinosaurs wont let go and embrace the future but continue to live in the past

 

[diedpretty]

Justin is the face of WT.
He has a colossal role(for the club) and is most certainly liable for both executive and administrative responsibilities, however I think it's obvious that we suffer from poor organisational culture.
This stems from poor governance and leadership from the Board - **who are supposed to be the brains behind everything.**

The board is the over lying issue I think aswell. They have no one to answer to.

They should be answerable to the owners of the club.

They are except in this instance they are the Board Members of the owners as well. So basically they don’t answer to anyone.

The governance of Wests Tigers has been broken from day 1, and that really is the underlying issue of why the Wests Tigers are not a powerhouse.

Good point, in effect they are answerable to the members of Wests Ashfield but the majority of those members have little regard for the Wests Tigers.

The members of Wests Ashfield don't get to vote on every board member. There are a certain number of the board that are debenture holders and virtually hold their position for as long as they want and can't be voted out by general members.

 

[gallagher]

Justin is the face of WT.
He has a colossal role(for the club) and is most certainly liable for both executive and administrative responsibilities, however I think it's obvious that we suffer from poor organisational culture.
This stems from poor governance and leadership from the Board - **who are supposed to be the brains behind everything.**

The board is the over lying issue I think aswell. They have no one to answer to.

They should be answerable to the owners of the club.

They are except in this instance they are the Board Members of the owners as well. So basically they don’t answer to anyone.

The governance of Wests Tigers has been broken from day 1, and that really is the underlying issue of why the Wests Tigers are not a powerhouse.

Good point, in effect they are answerable to the members of Wests Ashfield but the majority of those members have little regard for the Wests Tigers.


The members of Wests Ashfield don't get to vote on every board member. There are a certain number of the board that are debenture holders and virtually hold their position for as long as they want and can't be voted out by general members.

Crazy

 

[cktiger]

Interesting to read that the West Ashfield group has a heap of board members and are keeping the WTs alive and well..

Why is that so.?...because Wests Ashfield are a very large company and business,they also wanted the WTs to survive...but the core matter in relation to this is..by being the savior of the WTS and Balmain they have expanded their revenue and income base expentionally..why ? just imagine how many WTs supporters,fans and members will now flock to become members of Wests Ashfield and also hold functions and general attendance at their club(s)..they are a very smart and well organised business after all it is all about making DOLLARS...
Personally Im grateful to Wests Ashfield for their input in making the WTs and Balmain great Rugby League clubs and continueing the historical tradition..

We will also hopefully be getting a **Wests Tigers League club a Rozelle sometime in the future.**

The club at Rozelle will be Balmain Leagues.
The one at Ashfield is Western Suburbs.

No it will be Wests Tigers branded


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Balmain will cease to exist as a company and a club and its assets and licences will be transferred to Wests Leagues at Ashfield under proposals put to voting members of both licensed clubs that will complete their unification on and off the field.

The 12,000 members of Balmain Leagues will be asked to attend a general meeting at Balmain Town Hall on September 18, and Wests Ashfield’s 36,000 members will be invited to vote the following night at their Liverpool Road premises.

The site of the old Balmain Leagues Club in Rozelle.
The site of the old Balmain Leagues Club in Rozelle.CREDIT:SIMON ALEKNA

Members will be asked to endorse what is termed an amalgamation but others would describe as an inevitable takeover by Wests Leagues.

Members of Balmain will become members of Wests, finally uniting all stakeholders.

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The Wests Tigers NRL franchise began 20 years ago as an equal joint venture by two 1908 foundation rugby league clubs, but licensed club support for both organisations was never equal and Balmain Leagues Club ceased funding the merged football club well before it went into voluntary administration late in 2018.

Balmain Leagues Club at Rozelle remains a derelict development site, while Wests Leagues club at Ashfield has undergone a $70 million rebuild and refurbishment over the past 16 years.

Under the proposals agreed on by directors of both organisations, Wests Leagues will increase their stake in the Wests Tigers NRL franchise from 75 per cent to 90 per cent, leaving Balmain with 10 per cent and two voices on the nine-person board, consisting of a formal nominee and an independent director.

Former NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell, an independent director and fan of the old Tigers, is the current chair.

Wests will have five votes. It will fund Balmain’s junior representative teams for $350,000 a year for five years and also pay Balmain’s debt of $3.2 million to the NRL, due next year.

Balmain will transfer the licence of their successful Sydney Markets club to become an additional premises of Wests for a minimum of five years. Like most licensed premises in the inner west that are outside the marketing pull of The Star casino, Balmain’s satellite club at Flemington is trading very well. It was the target of bids from Lidcombe Catholic Club, Wests Campbelltown and Ryde
Eastwood, but these clubs did not offer the funding and support needed for Balmain Tigers' junior football competition.

A generation of young supporters have grown up knowing the club only as Wests Tigers.

**Wests are also obligated to support Balmain’s continuing ambition to open a licensed club at the Rozelle site, which would be named a Wests Tigers premises but be absorbed into a Wests mega licence.**

Negotiations between the directors of both clubs, led by Wests chairman Mike Bailey and Balmain’s Dr Leslie Glen, and driven by Ashfield’s innovative chief executive, Simon Cook, have been described as “harmonious” and “trusting”.

This contrasts with the early days of the joint venture when Balmain dominated, via stronger personalities and the support of Wests Campbelltown, which voted against their fellow Magpies.

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Now, with Wests in a dominant financial position in the proposed amalgamation, some former players question why the joint venture NRL club is not rebadged as the Magpies rather than Tigers.

However, a generation of young supporters have grown up knowing the club only as Wests Tigers, although the NRL practice of calling the club “Tigers”, as opposed to “Wests Tigers”, causes rancour among Magpie diehards.

It’s 50 years since Balmain were the champions of the old Sydney premiership, when they won an improbable title over the highly fancied Rabbitohs at the SCG and partied at their Rozelle club, which the state government now seeks to turn into a large-scale tunnelling site.

It’s 40 years since relationships between the boards of Wests Leagues Club and the Magpies were so poisonous that the miserable annual grant by the Ashfield licensed club to the cash-strapped football club based at Lidcombe was cut by the amount of a new hard-won sponsorship from Victa.

Now, however, Balmain members will be asked to support “the dissolution of the company”, while invited to join with Magpies in becoming equal members of Wests Ashfield, which owns 90 per cent of an NRL franchise and doesn’t quibble about funding.

But, as former Tigers great and Balmain director Benny Elias was fond of saying: “Football is a funny game.”

That's wrong - it will be a Balmain Club.

 

[philgood]

Everyone’s sarcasm metre is broken today I see

 

[philgood]

I like the way Jack puts down the old Magpies! He talks about culture and like showing the young kids the right way. Yeah , just like the culture he instilled in his son Kieran , who didn’t even invite Jack or his wife to his 200th AFL game. Ahhhh.... Balmain culture!!
Balmain who ????
Jack doesn’t realise who pays the bills !!!!

Let's not start all that crap again. We are Wests Tigers, aren't we?

No we are Balmain Tigers ?

I think that is the 1st time I have ever downvoted a post. We are the Wests Tigers!!! I hate this type of rubbish.

Lol

 

[mike]

Interesting to read that the West Ashfield group has a heap of board members and are keeping the WTs alive and well..

Why is that so.?...because Wests Ashfield are a very large company and business,they also wanted the WTs to survive...but the core matter in relation to this is..by being the savior of the WTS and Balmain they have expanded their revenue and income base expentionally..why ? just imagine how many WTs supporters,fans and members will now flock to become members of Wests Ashfield and also hold functions and general attendance at their club(s)..they are a very smart and well organised business after all it is all about making DOLLARS...
Personally Im grateful to Wests Ashfield for their input in making the WTs and Balmain great Rugby League clubs and continueing the historical tradition..

We will also hopefully be getting a **Wests Tigers League club a Rozelle sometime in the future.**

The club at Rozelle will be Balmain Leagues.
The one at Ashfield is Western Suburbs.

No it will be Wests Tigers branded


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Balmain will cease to exist as a company and a club and its assets and licences will be transferred to Wests Leagues at Ashfield under proposals put to voting members of both licensed clubs that will complete their unification on and off the field.

The 12,000 members of Balmain Leagues will be asked to attend a general meeting at Balmain Town Hall on September 18, and Wests Ashfield’s 36,000 members will be invited to vote the following night at their Liverpool Road premises.

The site of the old Balmain Leagues Club in Rozelle.
The site of the old Balmain Leagues Club in Rozelle.CREDIT:SIMON ALEKNA

Members will be asked to endorse what is termed an amalgamation but others would describe as an inevitable takeover by Wests Leagues.

Members of Balmain will become members of Wests, finally uniting all stakeholders.

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The Wests Tigers NRL franchise began 20 years ago as an equal joint venture by two 1908 foundation rugby league clubs, but licensed club support for both organisations was never equal and Balmain Leagues Club ceased funding the merged football club well before it went into voluntary administration late in 2018.

Balmain Leagues Club at Rozelle remains a derelict development site, while Wests Leagues club at Ashfield has undergone a $70 million rebuild and refurbishment over the past 16 years.

Under the proposals agreed on by directors of both organisations, Wests Leagues will increase their stake in the Wests Tigers NRL franchise from 75 per cent to 90 per cent, leaving Balmain with 10 per cent and two voices on the nine-person board, consisting of a formal nominee and an independent director.

Former NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell, an independent director and fan of the old Tigers, is the current chair.

Wests will have five votes. It will fund Balmain’s junior representative teams for $350,000 a year for five years and also pay Balmain’s debt of $3.2 million to the NRL, due next year.

Balmain will transfer the licence of their successful Sydney Markets club to become an additional premises of Wests for a minimum of five years. Like most licensed premises in the inner west that are outside the marketing pull of The Star casino, Balmain’s satellite club at Flemington is trading very well. It was the target of bids from Lidcombe Catholic Club, Wests Campbelltown and Ryde
Eastwood, but these clubs did not offer the funding and support needed for Balmain Tigers' junior football competition.

A generation of young supporters have grown up knowing the club only as Wests Tigers.

**Wests are also obligated to support Balmain’s continuing ambition to open a licensed club at the Rozelle site, which would be named a Wests Tigers premises but be absorbed into a Wests mega licence.**

Negotiations between the directors of both clubs, led by Wests chairman Mike Bailey and Balmain’s Dr Leslie Glen, and driven by Ashfield’s innovative chief executive, Simon Cook, have been described as “harmonious” and “trusting”.

This contrasts with the early days of the joint venture when Balmain dominated, via stronger personalities and the support of Wests Campbelltown, which voted against their fellow Magpies.

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Now, with Wests in a dominant financial position in the proposed amalgamation, some former players question why the joint venture NRL club is not rebadged as the Magpies rather than Tigers.

However, a generation of young supporters have grown up knowing the club only as Wests Tigers, although the NRL practice of calling the club “Tigers”, as opposed to “Wests Tigers”, causes rancour among Magpie diehards.

It’s 50 years since Balmain were the champions of the old Sydney premiership, when they won an improbable title over the highly fancied Rabbitohs at the SCG and partied at their Rozelle club, which the state government now seeks to turn into a large-scale tunnelling site.

It’s 40 years since relationships between the boards of Wests Leagues Club and the Magpies were so poisonous that the miserable annual grant by the Ashfield licensed club to the cash-strapped football club based at Lidcombe was cut by the amount of a new hard-won sponsorship from Victa.

Now, however, Balmain members will be asked to support “the dissolution of the company”, while invited to join with Magpies in becoming equal members of Wests Ashfield, which owns 90 per cent of an NRL franchise and doesn’t quibble about funding.

But, as former Tigers great and Balmain director Benny Elias was fond of saying: “Football is a funny game.”

That's wrong - it will be a Balmain Club.

That dream has long past.

 

[philgood]

I like the way Jack puts down the old Magpies! He talks about culture and like showing the young kids the right way. Yeah , just like the culture he instilled in his son Kieran , who didn’t even invite Jack or his wife to his 200th AFL game. Ahhhh.... Balmain culture!!
Balmain who ????
Jack doesn’t realise who pays the bills !!!!

Let's not start all that crap again. We are Wests Tigers, aren't we?

No we are Balmain Tigers ?

That thinking is why we don't do better - there is NO Balmain Tigers in the NRL mate.

Don't know who you are supporting!

Russell how’s Your mate Braith Anasta these days. You still a fan?

 

[Flash089]

I support the Tigers. Not the Tigers with a random point of the compass in front of it. In linguistics when the letters STST occur together, the tongue is in the wrong place to say it without spraying it. Its called a consonant cluster, technically an excressence of epenthesis. Just like the JV. It’s a sign, we are The Tigers.

 

[cochise]

Interesting to read that the West Ashfield group has a heap of board members and are keeping the WTs alive and well..

Why is that so.?...because Wests Ashfield are a very large company and business,they also wanted the WTs to survive...but the core matter in relation to this is..by being the savior of the WTS and Balmain they have expanded their revenue and income base expentionally..why ? just imagine how many WTs supporters,fans and members will now flock to become members of Wests Ashfield and also hold functions and general attendance at their club(s)..they are a very smart and well organised business after all it is all about making DOLLARS...
Personally Im grateful to Wests Ashfield for their input in making the WTs and Balmain great Rugby League clubs and continueing the historical tradition..

We will also hopefully be getting a **Wests Tigers League club a Rozelle sometime in the future.**

The club at Rozelle will be Balmain Leagues.
The one at Ashfield is Western Suburbs.

No it will be Wests Tigers branded


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Balmain will cease to exist as a company and a club and its assets and licences will be transferred to Wests Leagues at Ashfield under proposals put to voting members of both licensed clubs that will complete their unification on and off the field.

The 12,000 members of Balmain Leagues will be asked to attend a general meeting at Balmain Town Hall on September 18, and Wests Ashfield’s 36,000 members will be invited to vote the following night at their Liverpool Road premises.

The site of the old Balmain Leagues Club in Rozelle.
The site of the old Balmain Leagues Club in Rozelle.CREDIT:SIMON ALEKNA

Members will be asked to endorse what is termed an amalgamation but others would describe as an inevitable takeover by Wests Leagues.

Members of Balmain will become members of Wests, finally uniting all stakeholders.

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The Wests Tigers NRL franchise began 20 years ago as an equal joint venture by two 1908 foundation rugby league clubs, but licensed club support for both organisations was never equal and Balmain Leagues Club ceased funding the merged football club well before it went into voluntary administration late in 2018.

Balmain Leagues Club at Rozelle remains a derelict development site, while Wests Leagues club at Ashfield has undergone a $70 million rebuild and refurbishment over the past 16 years.

Under the proposals agreed on by directors of both organisations, Wests Leagues will increase their stake in the Wests Tigers NRL franchise from 75 per cent to 90 per cent, leaving Balmain with 10 per cent and two voices on the nine-person board, consisting of a formal nominee and an independent director.

Former NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell, an independent director and fan of the old Tigers, is the current chair.

Wests will have five votes. It will fund Balmain’s junior representative teams for $350,000 a year for five years and also pay Balmain’s debt of $3.2 million to the NRL, due next year.

Balmain will transfer the licence of their successful Sydney Markets club to become an additional premises of Wests for a minimum of five years. Like most licensed premises in the inner west that are outside the marketing pull of The Star casino, Balmain’s satellite club at Flemington is trading very well. It was the target of bids from Lidcombe Catholic Club, Wests Campbelltown and Ryde
Eastwood, but these clubs did not offer the funding and support needed for Balmain Tigers' junior football competition.

A generation of young supporters have grown up knowing the club only as Wests Tigers.

**Wests are also obligated to support Balmain’s continuing ambition to open a licensed club at the Rozelle site, which would be named a Wests Tigers premises but be absorbed into a Wests mega licence.**

Negotiations between the directors of both clubs, led by Wests chairman Mike Bailey and Balmain’s Dr Leslie Glen, and driven by Ashfield’s innovative chief executive, Simon Cook, have been described as “harmonious” and “trusting”.

This contrasts with the early days of the joint venture when Balmain dominated, via stronger personalities and the support of Wests Campbelltown, which voted against their fellow Magpies.

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Now, with Wests in a dominant financial position in the proposed amalgamation, some former players question why the joint venture NRL club is not rebadged as the Magpies rather than Tigers.

However, a generation of young supporters have grown up knowing the club only as Wests Tigers, although the NRL practice of calling the club “Tigers”, as opposed to “Wests Tigers”, causes rancour among Magpie diehards.

It’s 50 years since Balmain were the champions of the old Sydney premiership, when they won an improbable title over the highly fancied Rabbitohs at the SCG and partied at their Rozelle club, which the state government now seeks to turn into a large-scale tunnelling site.

It’s 40 years since relationships between the boards of Wests Leagues Club and the Magpies were so poisonous that the miserable annual grant by the Ashfield licensed club to the cash-strapped football club based at Lidcombe was cut by the amount of a new hard-won sponsorship from Victa.

Now, however, Balmain members will be asked to support “the dissolution of the company”, while invited to join with Magpies in becoming equal members of Wests Ashfield, which owns 90 per cent of an NRL franchise and doesn’t quibble about funding.

But, as former Tigers great and Balmain director Benny Elias was fond of saying: “Football is a funny game.”

That's wrong - it will be a Balmain Club.

Do you have a link for that? I will be extremely disappointed if it is not Wests Tigers branded

 

[cochise]

I support the Tigers. Not the Tigers with a random point of the compass in front of it. In linguistics when the letters STST occur together, the tongue is in the wrong place to say it without spraying it. Its called a consonant cluster, technically an excressence of epenthesis. Just like the JV. It’s a sign, we are The Tigers.

Good for you, the majority of us support the Wests Tigers!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I support the Tigers. Not the Tigers with a random point of the compass in front of it. In linguistics when the letters STST occur together, the tongue is in the wrong place to say it without spraying it. Its called a consonant cluster, technically an excressence of epenthesis. Just like the JV. It’s a sign, we are The Tigers.

Good for you, the majority of us support the Wests Tigers!

So does he

 

[Russell]

Everyone’s sarcasm metre is broken today I see

That wasn't sarcasm mate, that was dragging dirty washing to the fore and inciting anger amongst people who still haven't got over the merger.

It has taken 20 years so far..... we do not need to add fuel to the fire, when the fire has died down for quite some time.

 

[Russell]

I like the way Jack puts down the old Magpies! He talks about culture and like showing the young kids the right way. Yeah , just like the culture he instilled in his son Kieran , who didn’t even invite Jack or his wife to his 200th AFL game. Ahhhh.... Balmain culture!!
Balmain who ????
Jack doesn’t realise who pays the bills !!!!

Let's not start all that crap again. We are Wests Tigers, aren't we?

No we are Balmain Tigers ?

That thinking is why we don't do better - there is NO Balmain Tigers in the NRL mate.

Don't know who you are supporting!

Russell how’s Your mate Braith Anasta these days. You still a fan?

?

 

[cochise]

Everyone’s sarcasm metre is broken today I see

I don't honestly care if you meant it as a joke, looking at your profile you have been here long enough to know the issues this place as had with Balmain v Magpies rubbish. I do not care what side you used to support, they no longer exist at the top level and we are now Wests Tigers.

 

[philgood]

Everyone’s sarcasm metre is broken today I see

I don't honestly care if you meant it as a joke, looking at your profile you have been here long enough to know the issues this place as had with Balmain v Magpies rubbish. I do not care what side you used to support, they no longer exist at the top level and we are now Wests Tigers.

I dont care that Balmain doesnt exist. I love supporting the Wests Tigers. In saying that, I will always have fond memories of the mighty Balmain tigers. You need to lighten up and take that chip off your shoulder

 

[philgood]

Everyone’s sarcasm metre is broken today I see

That wasn't sarcasm mate, that was dragging dirty washing to the fore and inciting anger amongst people who still haven't got over the merger.

It has taken 20 years so far..... we do not need to add fuel to the fire, when the fire has died down for quite some time.

Braith Anasta

 

[cochise]

Everyone’s sarcasm metre is broken today I see

I don't honestly care if you meant it as a joke, looking at your profile you have been here long enough to know the issues this place as had with Balmain v Magpies rubbish. I do not care what side you used to support, they no longer exist at the top level and we are now Wests Tigers.

I dont care that Balmain doesnt exist. I love supporting the Wests Tigers. In saying that, I will always have fond memories of the mighty Balmain tigers. You need to lighten up and take that chip off your shoulder

No I don't, no chip here. I want to see a united fanbase and your post has a possibility of damaging that.