Tigers slam Dragons over Moltzen [update]

[innsaneink]

If the tigers are so upset about what the dragons said, does this now mean Moltzen will stay? I hope so. I agree he hasnt showed any glimpses of form this season but he is recovering from serious knee surgery. But he is young. Lets pick Lui in the centres against the cowboys and see how he goes.

Whoooo Lui in the centres…..you do know this is THE most hardest position to defend from?

 

[sameulcon]

If the tigers are so upset about what the dragons said, does this now mean Moltzen will stay? I hope so. I agree he hasnt showed any glimpses of form this season but he is recovering from serious knee surgery. But he is young. Lets pick Lui in the centres against the cowboys and see how he goes.

Whoooo Lui in the centres…..you do know this is THE most hardest position to defend from?

Yes I do. My point was Moltzen is copping all sorts of critiscm regarding his form. So swap him and Lui and see how Lui handles playing out of position. Lui has had every chance to kick on from last years semi final against the dragons and has showed us NOTHING. And he is not recovering from a major injury either.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Willow you would stick up for Lui if he missed 100 tackles and threw 50 intercept passes in the one game.
Every time there is criticism directed a him you deflect it to someone else - usually Moltzen.
I'm sure you would have been squirming reading all the recent threads calling for Lui to be dumped - which he deserves.
Marshall had another shocker - true.
At least he has the REAL talent to come back.
If he was running on two good legs he would have easily scored last night.
If you think Lui making a few breaks (one of which he bombed a certain try) means he had a good game then look at his tackling and his service to his outside backs.
Then have a look at the pitiful attempted tackles he ran through - reminiscent of his own tackling prowess.
At least with Moltzen going to a team who will utilise his talent in future you will only need protect Lui from Jacob Miller.

and you would bag him even if he scored 100 tries… just about every post you submit contains garbage about how useless Lui is and how poor old Timmy Choo Shoes is so much better!

Sadly enough, Lui has some work to do, but he offers more behind this forward pack than Moltzen. Some need to stop looking for the errors in his game... It's not an enjoyable way to watch rugby league!

 

[mikey]

Some need to stop looking for the errors in his game… It's not an enjoyable way to watch rugby league!

Fair go Watto. We couldn't call ourselves Wests Tigers supporters without looking for faults..It's a genetic trait caused by years of failure and frustration.

 

[bonstonker]

but at the end of the day i am glad moltzen is going.
he has ridden of the back of benji's coattails long enough.

good to no longer see him pointing fingers while doing bugger all.

Here here.

No loss. Enough passengers at this club already.

And both you guys know more than the Dragons recruitment team.
If anyone has been hanging in because of Marshall it's Lui.
Now that Marshall is out of form you can see what a real dud he is.
Moltzen has been given zero chance this year by being forced to play in different positions week in week out.

da da da,it's cktiger to the rescue.
defender of planet moltzen.
and wannabee destroyer of lui.

thanks for giving us excuse number 1289 for moltzen.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

And both you guys know more than the Dragons recruitment team.

They can afford to accomodate a mentally weak player, as their side is full of players with a winning mentality.

We can't. Get over it.

 

[cktiger]

Memo to Bonstonker , Tiger Watto and Hybrid Tiger
Firstly Bonstonker….

**_'but at the end of the day i am glad moltzen is going.
he has ridden of the back of benji's coattails long enough.
good to no longer see him pointing fingers while doing bugger all.'\
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'da da da,it's cktiger to the rescue.
defender of planet moltzen.
and wannabee destroyer of lui.'_**

Seems to me you are gloating that Moltzen has been shafted all year and upset your precious Lui has had to cop a well deserved pasting for playing like total crap all year.
I'm quite happy to defend Moltzen - who has come back from a serious injury and then been forced to run on in a different position nearly every week.
I don't want to destroy Lui - but given he's been left at half all year and gets WORSE every week I feel it's my right to bag his play- his own form will destroy him if it doesn't improve in a hurry.
You will note I have never bagged him personally or questioned his courage in my criticism - unlike what Moltzen has copped.

Secondly Tiger Watto...

_'**and you would bag him even if he scored 100 tries... just about every post you submit contains garbage about how useless Lui is and how poor old Timmy Choo Shoes is so much better!\
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Sadly enough, Lui has some work to do, but he offers more behind this forward pack than Moltzen. Some need to stop looking for the errors in his game... It's not an enjoyable way to watch rugby league!'**_
If you seriously think it's garbage to think Lui is playing hopelessly bad at present then you are no judge of football.
Everybody can see how bad he is going.
Your reference to Moltzen as 'Timmy Choo Shoes ' simply shows , if anything, childishness or envy.
You need to call him schoolyard names?
Think he is a pretty boy?
Does that make you feel threatened?
Seems some people on here never wanted him because he wasn't hit by the ugly stick.
In reference to not looking for errors in Lui's game - well that’s like looking at the forest and not seeing any trees.
You're right - it isn't an enjoyable way to watch rugby league having to see him play like a z grader.

Lastly to Hybrid Tiger with this classic…

**_'They can afford to accomodate a mentally weak player, as their side is full of players with a winning mentality.\
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We can't. Get over it. '_**

What can you say about an inane comment like that?
Probably one of the most insulting things I have ever read on here.
Mentally weak?
One thing is true in this all this rubbish however .
The Dragons have a winning mentality and unfortunately at the moment we don’t.
They obviously see talent that you guys don't and want Moltzen to be part of their winning culture.
'Nuff said

 

[Tiger_Watto]

bahahaha… that is one of the childish posts I've ever read on here.

Get down to Oki Dokey Stadium early next year... I think the Timmy Choo Shoes Moltzen Scarf's will sell like hotcakes!!!

 

[Glennb]

Willow you would stick up for Lui if he missed 100 tackles and threw 50 intercept passes in the one game.
Every time there is criticism directed a him you deflect it to someone else - usually Moltzen.
I'm sure you would have been squirming reading all the recent threads calling for Lui to be dumped - which he deserves.
Marshall had another shocker - true.
At least he has the REAL talent to come back.
If he was running on two good legs he would have easily scored last night.
If you think Lui making a few breaks (one of which he bombed a certain try) means he had a good game then look at his tackling and his service to his outside backs.
Then have a look at the pitiful attempted tackles he ran through - reminiscent of his own tackling prowess.
At least with Moltzen going to a team who will utilise his talent in future you will only need protect Lui from Jacob Miller.

and you would bag him even if he scored 100 tries… just about every post you submit contains garbage about how useless Lui is and how poor old Timmy Choo Shoes is so much better!

Sadly enough, Lui has some work to do, but he offers more behind this forward pack than Moltzen. Some need to stop looking for the errors in his game... It's not an enjoyable way to watch rugby league!

The funny thing here about supporters/critics of Lui & Moltzen is that it covers over the fact that **_neither_** are good enough for first grade half back. In my opinion its time to bit ethe bullet and accept this and move on to plan C, which I think is Jacob Miller. I have a feeling that Sheens thinks this as well but is hesitatnt due to Millers age.

 

[innsaneink]

And people laughed at my ''factions'' thread.

 

[bigsiro]

@Glennb:

The funny thing here about supporters/critics of Lui & Moltzen is that it covers over the fact that **_neither_** are good enough for first grade half back. In my opinion its time to bit ethe bullet and accept this and move on to plan C, which I think is Jacob Miller. I have a feeling that Sheens thinks this as well but is hesitatnt due to Millers age.

Finally some sense on this thread.

 

[bonstonker]

Firstly Bonstonker….
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Seems to me you are gloating that Moltzen has been shafted all year and upset your precious Lui has had to cop a well deserved pasting for playing like total crap all year.
I'm quite happy to defend Moltzen - who has come back from a serious injury and then been forced to run on in a different position nearly every week.
I don't want to destroy Lui - but given he's been left at half all year and gets WORSE every week I feel it's my right to bag his play- his own form will destroy him if it doesn't improve in a hurry.
You will note I have never bagged him personally or questioned his courage in my criticism - unlike what Moltzen has copped.

wow, my precious lui.this has nothing to do with lui.
but on the subject,i explained to you a long time ago that lui has his problems.
me being happy moltzen is going has nothing to do with lui.
i simply don't rate him as high as you.
i stated before this season started that moltzen does not have the ball skills i want in a half.
i don't like him fielding kicks or returning kicks or his finger pointing while at fullback.

i don't see the value in him.
so,i am happy to see him go.

if lui leaves,i'm not going to be to upset either.
there are still the same question marks hanging over his head,from the start of the season.

 

[happy_tiger]

The funny thing here about supporters/critics of Lui & Moltzen is that it covers over the fact that **_neither_** are good enough for first grade half back. In my opinion its time to bit ethe bullet and accept this and move on to plan C, which I think is Jacob Miller. I have a feeling that Sheens thinks this as well but is hesitatnt due to Millers age.

Finally some sense on this thread.
Big Siro I think plan C should or could be either Fulton or Miller at dummy half and Farah and Marshall in the halves . With Farah not being effective from dummy half give him some room to move at half back At least with Fulton at 9 we don't lose Robbies defensive effectiveness and helps sure up the ruck a litlle bit . Just a thought that I thought I might throw out there .