Tim Simona - Deregistered

[innsaneink]

Theres no logic in addiction Yoss

 

[southerntiger]

The more I read about this the less I understand. Surely there's something missing in all this. Supposedly he has a crippling gambling problem but his bets total $600? And if he's losing money elsewhere why bother risking your career for a payoff off a few grand on bets that were no sure things? More details to come surely.

This is what I am finding confusing.

Apart from the charity thing (which is horrible but to fair probably not as bad as what Matt Lodge or Greg Bird did), it sounds like the worst thing he did was lie to the Integrity Unit.

 

[southerntiger]

The more I read about this the less I understand. Surely there's something missing in all this. Supposedly he has a crippling gambling problem but his bets total $600? And if he's losing money elsewhere why bother risking your career for a payoff off a few grand on bets that were no sure things? More details to come surely.

To be accurate, the article is only talking about bets on NRL. Who knows what he was betting on the ponies or other sports.

 

[Yossarian]

I appreciate that Ink but $600 is hardly an addiction. He must be in a hole elsewhere. As you say addicts have no logic but even by those standards it's very odd based on what's been revealed so far. It's like having a $600 a year coke habit and funding it by stealing office supplies even though you're on good money. I can only think maybe he thought he was being clever and this was some ego thing.

 

[Yossarian]

The more I read about this the less I understand. Surely there's something missing in all this. Supposedly he has a crippling gambling problem but his bets total $600? And if he's losing money elsewhere why bother risking your career for a payoff off a few grand on bets that were no sure things? More details to come surely.

To be accurate, the article is only talking about bets on NRL. Who knows what he was betting on the ponies or other sports.

That's my point though - there's some gaps in the information. But even so his potential wins on the NRL games were fairly small potatoes.

 

[innsaneink]

I appreciate that Ink but $600 is hardly an addiction. He must be in a hole elsewhere. As you say addicts have no logic but even by those standards it's very odd based on what's been revealed so far. It's like having a $600 a year coke habit and funding it by stealing office supplies even though you're on good money. I can only think maybe he thought he was being clever and this was some ego thing.

OK…I get you now.
Im jut assuming theres a lot of his legal problem punting we havent heard about...I guess we can safely assume that...ripping off charities point to there being a big problem though

 

[gallagher]

I hope it clears up some cap space to get someone like Copley.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Pure conjecture, but there are scenarios where he could have agreed to do this for someone else's benefit if he was in debited to them because of his addiction. His bets could have been to stop him from changing his mind, to force him to have some skin in the game.

Who knows though.

 

[old_man_tiger]

I hope it clears up some cap space to get someone like Copley.

I hope so too, we deserve a silver lining. The amount of BS we fans put up with is pretty massive, and we're all still here.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

The more I ready about this, the more I get annoyed with the moral sanctimony of Todd Greenberg. The guy who had a young woman come to him to say a player at his club had beaten her and then he failed to report it to the police.

Hypocrite thy name is Todd.

Absolutely. You can be sure Greenberg couldn't give a toss about whatever immoral things NRL players do, as long as he keeps his job and his huge paycheck. I'd say if people dug around enough they could find some muck around Toddy boy, he hardly seems like the most honest and trustworthy bloke IMO.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

The more I ready about this, the more I get annoyed with the moral sanctimony of Todd Greenberg. The guy who had a young woman come to him to say a player at his club had beaten her and then he failed to report it to the police.

Hypocrite thy name is Todd.

Absolutely. You can be sure Greenberg couldn't give a toss about whatever immoral things NRL players do, as long as he keeps his job and his huge paycheck. I'd say if people dug around enough they could find some muck around Toddy boy, he hardly seems like the most honest and trustworthy bloke IMO.

F2B does you post escape the libel laws?

 

[southerntiger]

The more I ready about this, the more I get annoyed with the moral sanctimony of Todd Greenberg. The guy who had a young woman come to him to say a player at his club had beaten her and then he failed to report it to the police.

Hypocrite thy name is Todd.

Absolutely. You can be sure Greenberg couldn't give a toss about whatever immoral things NRL players do, as long as he keeps his job and his huge paycheck. I'd say if people dug around enough they could find some muck around Toddy boy, he hardly seems like the most honest and trustworthy bloke IMO.

F2B does you post escape the libel laws?

No of course it doesn't. But I don't think the head of the NRL is going to take action over post on a NRL fan website that, at the most, accuses him of hardly seeming honest.

 

[innsaneink]

Pure conjecture, but there are scenarios where he could have agreed to do this for someone else's benefit if he was in debited to them because of his addiction. His bets could have been to stop him from changing his mind, to force him to have some skin in the game.

Who knows though.

The thought has crossed my mind too.
Woodsy saying he's mixed up with the wrong crowd…
I doubt he means the local hillsong crew

 

[Geo]

Meanwhile in other NRL news Foran cleared and registered to return to the NRL after ticking all the NRL's psychical assessment boxes and showing remorse for past actions …

Todd said..

 

[Yossarian]

I appreciate that Ink but $600 is hardly an addiction. He must be in a hole elsewhere. As you say addicts have no logic but even by those standards it's very odd based on what's been revealed so far. It's like having a $600 a year coke habit and funding it by stealing office supplies even though you're on good money. I can only think maybe he thought he was being clever and this was some ego thing.

OK…I get you now.
Im jut assuming theres a lot of his legal problem punting we havent heard about...I guess we can safely assume that...ripping off charities point to there being a big problem though

Yep agreed.

 

[Newtown]

The more I ready about this, the more I get annoyed with the moral sanctimony of Todd Greenberg. The guy who had a young woman come to him to say a player at his club had beaten her and then he failed to report it to the police.

Hypocrite thy name is Todd.

Absolutely. You can be sure Greenberg couldn't give a toss about whatever immoral things NRL players do, as long as he keeps his job and his huge paycheck. I'd say if people dug around enough they could find some muck around Toddy boy, he hardly seems like the most honest and trustworthy bloke IMO.

F2B does you post escape the libel laws?

What about posts on Simona, do they escape the libel laws? Simona has the same rights as Greenberg.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

The more I ready about this, the more I get annoyed with the moral sanctimony of Todd Greenberg. The guy who had a young woman come to him to say a player at his club had beaten her and then he failed to report it to the police.

Hypocrite thy name is Todd.

Absolutely. You can be sure Greenberg couldn't give a toss about whatever immoral things NRL players do, as long as he keeps his job and his huge paycheck. I'd say if people dug around enough they could find some muck around Toddy boy, he hardly seems like the most honest and trustworthy bloke IMO.

F2B does you post escape the libel laws?

What about posts on Simona, do they escape the libel laws? Simona has the same rights as Greenberg.

I think that public interest and truth are a defence, the judge and jury appear to have settled the case on Simona whereas I have not heard of any evidence on Todd not that I have ever taken any interest.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Meanwhile in other NRL news Foran cleared and registered to return to the NRL after ticking all the NRL's psychical assessment boxes and showing remorse for past actions …

Todd said..

Enough said.
Foran was cunning enough to throw the "mental problems/suicide attempt" card on the table very quickly after accusations started flying in his direction, the NRL didn't dare to be seen hounding him and digging deeper to uncover the real extent of his misdemeanors, he pulled the rug out from under them with his new-found "mental distress".
If Simona had played that card as soon as his case became public I would say that there was an extremely good chance he would of gotten off with a greatly reduced punishment. In footballing terms Simona got back the 10 and stayed onside whereas crafty Keiran got off the line quickly, albeit offside, and got up in the NRLs' faces and they panicked and dropped the ball.

 

[innsaneink]

"Based on the evidence we have identified it is **very hard** to imagine that Tim Simona will be registered with the NRL at any time in the future," Mr Greenberg said.

…but not impossible?

Todd left the door ajar ever so slightly

 

[Fade_To_Black]

"Based on the evidence we have identified it is **very hard** to imagine that Tim Simona will be registered with the NRL at any time in the future," Mr Greenberg said.

…but not impossible?

Todd left the door ajar ever so slightly

Just in case the NRL Titans need a centre down the track.