Tim Simona - Deregistered

[Fade_To_Black]

I dont care about gambling advertising. It doesnt MAKE you bet.
I dont buy for one second thats all the bets he did.
If you shared coke on a bender with team mates, lets see if you are truly remorseful and dob them in so they can get help too. (I suspect he will hide behind the great aussie tradition of not being a dibber dobber).

If you are TRULY remorseful, do the right thing. Pay back money, get 'team mates' help.

Where was the management, coaches, club captain whilst all this was going on in the last few years, the drug use by multiple players (allegedly) and gambling. Is this why the current coach and new management are trying to change the culture, even though some on this very forum are calling them out on it?

More questions than answers to be honest. I have NO Interest or care for yet another common POS.

Yeah that would be fantastic, dob in his "mates". Would be another quality string to his bow- being a rat maggot who throws his friends under the bus just because he wants to spill his guts to a trash gutter newspaper. If he did I would be hoping that he got a severe beating for doing it.

 

[stryker]

Saying he is a gambling addict is a ruse. Real addicts, as Happy has said, cant help themselves. They dont spend chump change, they spend everything they have. These 10 and 15 dollar bets are a white herring.

To use an analogy, its like saying an alcoholic has a bottle of bourbon and 6 beers on the Monday, 2 beers Tuesday, nothing on Wednesday, 2 bottles Thursday, a carton Friday, 1 beer Saturday, 3 beers Sunday…..I know some functioning alcoholics and they have the maximum they can handle each day.

We know about the days he had a couple of beers so to speak, what about the rest that he had that day? He aint no addict. This was calculated and he knew very well the penalties if caught. To my mind he was either tied up with criminal enterprises, or he had contingencies in place to take the fall if he was caught. My gut feeling says he was not just breaking NRL laws.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Wonder how much Simona got paid by the Tele for his interview? No doubt they would of been pushing him to tell all about his Tigers teammates and their Mad Monday indiscretions.

 

[southerntiger]

Saying he is a gambling addict is a ruse. Real addicts, as Happy has said, cant help themselves. They dont spend chump change, they spend everything they have. These 10 and 15 dollar bets are a white herring.

To use an analogy, its like saying an alcoholic has a bottle of bourbon and 6 beers on the Monday, 2 beers Tuesday, nothing on Wednesday, 2 bottles Thursday, a carton Friday, 1 beer Saturday, 3 beers Sunday…..I know some functioning alcoholics and they have the maximum they can handle each day.

We know about the days he had a couple of beers so to speak, what about the rest that he had that day? He aint no addict. This was calculated and he knew very well the penalties if caught. To my mind he was either tied up with criminal enterprises, or he had contingencies in place to take the fall if he was caught. My gut feeling says he was not just breaking NRL laws.

Sorry guys. Addiction is far more complex than you suggest. Whilst there is no doubt it involves a lack of control it doesnt mean someone bets big all the time.

That Simona bet small on NRL games, suggesting some level of control, doesnt mean he wasnt addiction, either to gambling generally or gambling on NRL.

I suspect the NRL gambling had a lot to with the thrill of getting away with something illicit rather than to make a big win.

 

[Sco77y]

Saying he is a gambling addict is a ruse. Real addicts, as Happy has said, cant help themselves. They dont spend chump change, they spend everything they have. These 10 and 15 dollar bets are a white herring.

To use an analogy, its like saying an alcoholic has a bottle of bourbon and 6 beers on the Monday, 2 beers Tuesday, nothing on Wednesday, 2 bottles Thursday, a carton Friday, 1 beer Saturday, 3 beers Sunday…..I know some functioning alcoholics and they have the maximum they can handle each day.

We know about the days he had a couple of beers so to speak, what about the rest that he had that day? He aint no addict. This was calculated and he knew very well the penalties if caught. To my mind he was either tied up with criminal enterprises, or he had contingencies in place to take the fall if he was caught. My gut feeling says he was not just breaking NRL laws.

Exactly my opinion Stryker, the whole addiction story is a cover imo.

 

[Swordy]

I dont care about gambling advertising. It doesnt MAKE you bet.
I dont buy for one second thats all the bets he did.
If you shared coke on a bender with team mates, lets see if you are truly remorseful and dob them in so they can get help too. (I suspect he will hide behind the great aussie tradition of not being a dibber dobber).

If you are TRULY remorseful, do the right thing. Pay back money, get 'team mates' help.

Where was the management, coaches, club captain whilst all this was going on in the last few years, the drug use by multiple players (allegedly) and gambling. Is this why the current coach and new management are trying to change the culture, even though some on this very forum are calling them out on it?

More questions than answers to be honest. I have NO Interest or care for yet another common POS.

Yeah that would be fantastic, dob in his "mates". Would be another quality string to his bow- being a rat maggot who throws his friends under the bus just because he wants to spill his guts to a trash gutter newspaper. If he did I would be hoping that he got a severe beating for doing it.

So his mates can carry on with a drug problem without getting help? This stuff about not dobbing in mates is a myth. Supposedly very aussie.

Doesnt have to be public at all, because theres no benefit. I dont care to know. But shouldnt you always help a friend who needs your help and cant do it themselves?

 

[southerntiger]

I dont care about gambling advertising. It doesnt MAKE you bet.
I dont buy for one second thats all the bets he did.
If you shared coke on a bender with team mates, lets see if you are truly remorseful and dob them in so they can get help too. (I suspect he will hide behind the great aussie tradition of not being a dibber dobber).

If you are TRULY remorseful, do the right thing. Pay back money, get 'team mates' help.

Where was the management, coaches, club captain whilst all this was going on in the last few years, the drug use by multiple players (allegedly) and gambling. Is this why the current coach and new management are trying to change the culture, even though some on this very forum are calling them out on it?

More questions than answers to be honest. I have NO Interest or care for yet another common POS.

Yeah that would be fantastic, dob in his "mates". Would be another quality string to his bow- being a rat maggot who throws his friends under the bus just because he wants to spill his guts to a trash gutter newspaper. If he did I would be hoping that he got a severe beating for doing it.

So his mates can carry on with a drug problem without getting help? This stuff about not dobbing in mates is a myth. Supposedly very aussie.

Doesnt have to be public at all, because theres no benefit. I dont care to know. But shouldnt you always help a friend who needs your help and cant do it themselves?

Doing a line of coke doesnt mean a person has a drug problem. Some people need to get off their high horses.

 

[earl]

Saying he is a gambling addict is a ruse. Real addicts, as Happy has said, cant help themselves. They dont spend chump change, they spend everything they have. These 10 and 15 dollar bets are a white herring.

To use an analogy, its like saying an alcoholic has a bottle of bourbon and 6 beers on the Monday, 2 beers Tuesday, nothing on Wednesday, 2 bottles Thursday, a carton Friday, 1 beer Saturday, 3 beers Sunday…..I know some functioning alcoholics and they have the maximum they can handle each day.

We know about the days he had a couple of beers so to speak, what about the rest that he had that day? He aint no addict. This was calculated and he knew very well the penalties if caught. To my mind he was either tied up with criminal enterprises, or he had contingencies in place to take the fall if he was caught. My gut feeling says he was not just breaking NRL laws.

I said to my wife that he doesn't appear to be a gambling or cocaine addict to me. I think he may have a problem where money just burns a hole in his pocket and it needs to be spent.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I dont care about gambling advertising. It doesnt MAKE you bet.
I dont buy for one second thats all the bets he did.
If you shared coke on a bender with team mates, lets see if you are truly remorseful and dob them in so they can get help too. (I suspect he will hide behind the great aussie tradition of not being a dibber dobber).

If you are TRULY remorseful, do the right thing. Pay back money, get 'team mates' help.

Where was the management, coaches, club captain whilst all this was going on in the last few years, the drug use by multiple players (allegedly) and gambling. Is this why the current coach and new management are trying to change the culture, even though some on this very forum are calling them out on it?

More questions than answers to be honest. I have NO Interest or care for yet another common POS.

Yeah that would be fantastic, dob in his "mates". Would be another quality string to his bow- being a rat maggot who throws his friends under the bus just because he wants to spill his guts to a trash gutter newspaper. If he did I would be hoping that he got a severe beating for doing it.

So his mates can carry on with a drug problem without getting help? This stuff about not dobbing in mates is a myth. Supposedly very aussie.

Doesnt have to be public at all, because theres no benefit. I dont care to know. But shouldnt you always help a friend who needs your help and cant do it themselves?

Doing a line of coke doesnt mean a person has a drug problem. Some people need to get off their high horses.

No but the 5 bags he carried afterwards and talked about intentionally taking coke to avoid drug testing does…

He has some massive issues....

More importantly Simona admits he did, Lovett got charged - do we have a problem at the club?

 

[Newtown]

So he has a cocaine addiction now too?
Light on details there…. Tame I guess when looking at the big picture but I wouldn't be surprised rothfield just threw that in for extra tang

That my bigger concern with this. Simona confessed and we know Lovett is a user as well.

The club must do an internal regular audit on this as there could be a problem within our club.

The club seems to have brushed over Lovett's cocaine problem. Maybe they should address the problem much more seriously. After all, Simona's gambling addiction, jersey profiteering, and being broke have stemmed from cocaine addiction. The club wouldn't more of its players following the cocaine path.

 

[southerntiger]

Yeah that would be fantastic, dob in his "mates". Would be another quality string to his bow- being a rat maggot who throws his friends under the bus just because he wants to spill his guts to a trash gutter newspaper. If he did I would be hoping that he got a severe beating for doing it.

So his mates can carry on with a drug problem without getting help? This stuff about not dobbing in mates is a myth. Supposedly very aussie.

Doesnt have to be public at all, because theres no benefit. I dont care to know. But shouldnt you always help a friend who needs your help and cant do it themselves?

Doing a line of coke doesnt mean a person has a drug problem. Some people need to get off their high horses.

No but the 5 bags he carried afterwards and talked about intentionally taking coke to avoid drug testing does…

He has some massive issues....

More importantly Simona admits he did, Lovett got charged - do we have a problem at the club?

I was referring to the other players Simona dobbed on. Simona clearly had a problem if you believe what he has said.

 

[Telltails]

Just listened to Phil Rothfield after interviewing Tim He certainly has a gambling problem putting thousands through the poker machines He had nothing to show for all his football earnings and his gambling was not purely on rugby league matches There are witnesses who have been beside him in clubs where once he had lost all his money through the machines, would then watch the bloke beside him play. He continually asked for advanced on his football salary without owning a car and living with his mum in rented accommodation at Macquarie Fields
There is clearly a gambling problem and his small bets signify that becsuse he lost the bulk of his money What is of most concern is that no one is supposed to have known about a problem that he has had for a number of years
He has to own his actions and he is clearly paying for them but their needs to be some reflection from the club and the NRL in determing how one in their system could get to such a low point with no one recognising the signs Four weeks ago the club was shoppiing him around!

 

[Bird is the Word]

"There was about six or seven of us,"
"We went to the toilets, and just snort a line pretty much. That was the first time I had ever touched drugs. From then on every time I would go out, I would start using it."

It is pretty disappointing that Simona is discussing the above with a journalist, i don't understand what the motive is for saying something like this, aside from either stupidity or money… It would be surprising if there was no follow up from the NRL on this claim, or at the very least internally at the Tigers. Cant imagine his 5 or 6 team mates would be too pleased about this, be interesting to see if the boys have their mind on the job against the Panthers today given everything being reported.

Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the Tigers trying to offload both Lovett and Simona in the week/s prior to their indiscretions being made public? Seems a pretty big coincidence, which it may well be... However if it is not a coincidence, then trying to transfer your problem to another club isn't really an appropriate way of managing players who have breached the NRL's rules, and in Simona's case a player who is displaying some fairly loose behaviour...

 

[earl]

I hope it was a Tigers pokie that the money was poured into.

That would be funny wouldn't it. We pay him and he gives it back to us.

 

[Swordy]

I dont care about gambling advertising. It doesnt MAKE you bet.
I dont buy for one second thats all the bets he did.
If you shared coke on a bender with team mates, lets see if you are truly remorseful and dob them in so they can get help too. (I suspect he will hide behind the great aussie tradition of not being a dibber dobber).

If you are TRULY remorseful, do the right thing. Pay back money, get 'team mates' help.

Where was the management, coaches, club captain whilst all this was going on in the last few years, the drug use by multiple players (allegedly) and gambling. Is this why the current coach and new management are trying to change the culture, even though some on this very forum are calling them out on it?

More questions than answers to be honest. I have NO Interest or care for yet another common POS.

Yeah that would be fantastic, dob in his "mates". Would be another quality string to his bow- being a rat maggot who throws his friends under the bus just because he wants to spill his guts to a trash gutter newspaper. If he did I would be hoping that he got a severe beating for doing it.

So his mates can carry on with a drug problem without getting help? This stuff about not dobbing in mates is a myth. Supposedly very aussie.

Doesnt have to be public at all, because theres no benefit. I dont care to know. But shouldnt you always help a friend who needs your help and cant do it themselves?

Doing a line of coke doesnt mean a person has a drug problem. Some people need to get off their high horses.

Really?. At the risk of going off topic, we will just agree to disagree. Dont want to turn this thread into a criticism of fun, harmless party drugs. Too many damn high horse people around.

 

[jadtiger]

The club should be doing a lot of illegal drug testing if they arent doing it already.We already have 2 morons at the club admitting to it(now 1).However if Simona is right in his statement about 7 players it could go an awful lot deeper.We should be proactive as a club removing that stain or do we want another situation like those 2 morons Field and Mcguiness developing.
The talk is about changing the "culture" of the club, getting rid of illegal drugs would be a good start or do we condone it by doing nothing

 

[tigermac88]

Just listened to Phil Rothfield after interviewing Tim He certainly has a gambling problem putting thousands through the poker machines He had nothing to show for all his football earnings and his gambling was not purely on rugby league matches There are witnesses who have been beside him in clubs where once he had lost all his money through the machines, would then watch the bloke beside him play. He continually asked for advanced on his football salary without owning a car and living with his mum in rented accommodation at Macquarie Fields
There is clearly a gambling problem and his small bets signify that becsuse he lost the bulk of his money What is of most concern is that no one is supposed to have known about a problem that he has had for a number of years
He has to own his actions and he is clearly paying for them but their needs to be some reflection from the club and the NRL in determing how one in their system could get to such a low point with no one recognising the signs Four weeks ago the club was shoppiing him around!

I seen him at my local with Nofa a fair few times pumping 50's thru the machines like the money meant nothing. Nofa was more of a bystander and was happy to have a chat where as Tim was too entranced on the pokie

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Dog act from him to basically throw innuendo and speculation around the WT club and it's playing group by including stories about his teammates and their actions. Cop your punishment like a man, don't try and bring others down with you.

 

[Telltails]

Recreational drug use is a society problem and is fairly well accepted with young people even though not all will engage Cant see the NRL/WestsT having any solution to combat what is socially accepted by young people in the wider community one in which NRL players are also a part of Yes they should know better and usually they do -once they are older and wiser and or have learned the hard way

 

[matchball]

While in general terms bashing your missus is deplorable, far worse than throwing a footy match to win yourself a few bucks, unfortunately a player beating their missus up does not cheapen the contest between two teams and has no real impact on how a game is played out. The product itself is directly threatened by players betting on games.

But you're suggesting Simona fixed, which the NRL accepts he didnt.

The betting was stupid but harmless. A 1 to 2 year ban for that should be sufficient. 12 weeks for the drugs, based on the Barba example and another 1 year for the charity stuff.

2-3 years max in total IMO.

Jaya: Why you choosing that guy (Quinlan) to score first?

Simona: I’m marking him lol. If I let him.

Jaya: What does that mean? Oh he will be opposite you?

Simona: Yes.

JayaOhhhhh.

Simona: You think.

Jaya: Hmmm dangerous.

Simona: Yep.

Jaya: This is legit match-fixing now.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/tim-simona-sex-drugs-and-my-downfall/news-story/4dbf6be5c680be6e94d4959bd24964d9

Mate the NRL has accepted he didnt fix. His punishment should be based on the findings at to his conduct, not some test message that may or may not be construed as a joke.

Simona didnt match up on Quinlan.

Simona was always a first class goose but he is being made a scapegoat for wide cultural problems in the NRL, not the the least of which the NRL's heavy reliance on gambling revenue.

He could be charged with conspiracy based on the text evidence.
The intent is there. Many have gone to jail for conspiring to commit a crime but not even going through with it.