Tim Simona - Deregistered

[Glennb]

Well obviously Tim is not a Rocket Surgeon…

The NRL investigation sees no correlation with match-fixing on the bets Simona placed...

DLR reference?

 

[glebe_tiger]

I hope this circus doesn't start affecting our squads headspace. Going by today's performance i wouldnt be surprised.

 

[king_sirro]

What a dog this Simona is.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

You'd never see Greenberg admit to this.

Well this is the thing that really ticks me off about major sports including NRL. You have the scenario where betting is advertised everywhere and the NRL have gone to lengths to have their 'partners' in betting agencies.
Then you have other non partners who advertise nonetheless and then have players promoting betting by the very fact these agencies' names are plastered over their jerseys. Then anyone who goes out and spends their hard earned on supporters gears has the privilege to also promote these betting agencies.
Not to be outdone we now have Manly playing at Lottoland. Seriously?
So one the one hand we're happy to accept cash from betting agencies in return for advertising for them. Of course they tell everyone to 'gamble responsibly'.
On the other hand when someone is addicted and therefore is no longer responsible in their gambling it's all their fault. Don't get me wrong I believe we need to take responsibility for our actions and that's something young Tim will have to do.
But who are we kidding? With all this betting advertising going on, why are we surprised when a player gets caught up in it.
Rant over….

For the record I really feel for Tim Simona. He's NRL career is all but over and his name and his family's name will be associated with this incident. It's time for him to accept responsibility and work through the issues and hopefully he will be someone who can warn others of the dangers.

Yeh it's disgusting mate. But nrl or government don't say a thing because of the $$$$ gambling makes them and more than happy to throw Timmy under the bus.

Throw him under the bus?
He knew what he was doing was wrong, he lied when being questioned.
Where is the personal responsibility? I'm tired of hearing that Tim is the victim. He is a criminal that's only remorseful because he got caught.

His come and and said he has a gambling problem. It's hypocritical to let other criminals that have actually done damage to other people, in the game and have a hard line for Simona. In top of the there's gambling adverts everywhere. On the the jersey live on TV and at the game. It's sick mate. So much corruption.

 

[Squaddy]

The revelations of other players using cocaine at Mad Monday is scaring the crap out of me,

If that comes out from a Mad Monday, we could be in for a Parramatta style season.

That performance today plays into that. There was a total lack of concentration out there today, which makes me think some of those guys had other things on their mind.

 

[hank37w]

Couldn't help but think exactly the same after todays performance

 

[Pawsandclaws]

The reaction of JT at the press conference was a very poor look when asked if the allegations impacted the performance of the team. Unusually, I thought Woods' answer about not reading papers was not in keeping with his usual laid back style.

 

[matchball]

Well this is the thing that really ticks me off about major sports including NRL. You have the scenario where betting is advertised everywhere and the NRL have gone to lengths to have their 'partners' in betting agencies.
Then you have other non partners who advertise nonetheless and then have players promoting betting by the very fact these agencies' names are plastered over their jerseys. Then anyone who goes out and spends their hard earned on supporters gears has the privilege to also promote these betting agencies.
Not to be outdone we now have Manly playing at Lottoland. Seriously?
So one the one hand we're happy to accept cash from betting agencies in return for advertising for them. Of course they tell everyone to 'gamble responsibly'.
On the other hand when someone is addicted and therefore is no longer responsible in their gambling it's all their fault. Don't get me wrong I believe we need to take responsibility for our actions and that's something young Tim will have to do.
But who are we kidding? With all this betting advertising going on, why are we surprised when a player gets caught up in it.
Rant over….

For the record I really feel for Tim Simona. He's NRL career is all but over and his name and his family's name will be associated with this incident. It's time for him to accept responsibility and work through the issues and hopefully he will be someone who can warn others of the dangers.

Yeh it's disgusting mate. But nrl or government don't say a thing because of the $$$$ gambling makes them and more than happy to throw Timmy under the bus.

Throw him under the bus?
He knew what he was doing was wrong, he lied when being questioned.
Where is the personal responsibility? I'm tired of hearing that Tim is the victim. He is a criminal that's only remorseful because he got caught.

His come and and said he has a gambling problem. It's hypocritical to let other criminals that have actually done damage to other people, in the game and have a hard line for Simona. In top of the there's gambling adverts everywhere. On the the jersey live on TV and at the game. It's sick mate. So much corruption.

You have to go on evidence.
Tim is guilty of conspiring to fix games. Maybe he did or didn't isn't the problem. It's the intent to commit it.
I'm not sure what other players you're speaking about but evidence is key to making allegations stick.
As for the gambling advertising making players bet is bogus.
Nobody takes responsibility anymore for their actions. They are quick to blame depression, drugs and gambling for their crimes.
That's unfair to those that actually suffer from those things.

 

[ryanda01]

Yeh it's disgusting mate. But nrl or government don't say a thing because of the $$$$ gambling makes them and more than happy to throw Timmy under the bus.

Throw him under the bus?
He knew what he was doing was wrong, he lied when being questioned.
Where is the personal responsibility? I'm tired of hearing that Tim is the victim. He is a criminal that's only remorseful because he got caught.

His come and and said he has a gambling problem. It's hypocritical to let other criminals that have actually done damage to other people, in the game and have a hard line for Simona. In top of the there's gambling adverts everywhere. On the the jersey live on TV and at the game. It's sick mate. So much corruption.

You have to go on evidence.
Tim is guilty of conspiring to fix games. Maybe he did or didn't isn't the problem. It's the intent to commit it.
I'm not sure what other players you're speaking about but evidence is key to making allegations stick.
As for the gambling advertising making players bet is bogus.
Nobody takes responsibility anymore for their actions. They are quick to blame depression, drugs and gambling for their crimes.
That's unfair to those that actually suffer from those things.

Addiction for the most part isn't environmental. Unless you have a doctorate in clinical psychology and mental illness I'd suggest we just leave it at the door. Whatever problems the bloke is going through, he should at least have the right to sort it out personally. Once he's done his time and come to grips with what's he's done we can all move on. He's problems are largely no different from a mother that's gambled her child's futures away or a husband that's separated from his wife from alcohol addiction. Simons is front of mind because he's a public figure and a player for a club we call love.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I was at my cousins 18th last year talking to a mate of Nathan Brown (player not coach) who claimed the culture at our club stunk and all of our players were known partyers. Didn't mention drugs, but for a lot of young people the two go hand in hand. I thought nothing of it at the time, but Simona has peaked my interest somewhat about what may be lurking beneath the surface.

 

[Newtown]

I hope this circus doesn't start affecting our squads headspace. Going by today's performance i wouldnt be surprised.

When you have a key playmaker like Brooks lose confidence the team just goes into a downward spiral. Even Moses caught Brooks' bug and lost his judgement time and time agin. But then again Brooks is entitled to lose confidence when he plays behind a small, mediocre pack of forwards.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

Throw him under the bus?
He knew what he was doing was wrong, he lied when being questioned.
Where is the personal responsibility? I'm tired of hearing that Tim is the victim. He is a criminal that's only remorseful because he got caught.

His come and and said he has a gambling problem. It's hypocritical to let other criminals that have actually done damage to other people, in the game and have a hard line for Simona. In top of the there's gambling adverts everywhere. On the the jersey live on TV and at the game. It's sick mate. So much corruption.

You have to go on evidence.
Tim is guilty of conspiring to fix games. Maybe he did or didn't isn't the problem. It's the intent to commit it.
I'm not sure what other players you're speaking about but evidence is key to making allegations stick.
As for the gambling advertising making players bet is bogus.
Nobody takes responsibility anymore for their actions. They are quick to blame depression, drugs and gambling for their crimes.
That's unfair to those that actually suffer from those things.

Addiction for the most part isn't environmental. Unless you have a doctorate in clinical psychology and mental illness I'd suggest we just leave it at the door. Whatever problems the bloke is going through, he should at least have the right to sort it out personally. Once he's done his time and come to grips with what's he's done we can all move on. He's problems are largely no different from a mother that's gambled her child's futures away or a husband that's separated from his wife from alcohol addiction. Simons is front of mind because he's a public figure and a player for a club we call love.

How's the evidence of packer stomping someone head?

 

[Harvey]

Tim takes coke, Lovett takes coke, how many others?

Who did these blokes come through the juniors with? In saying that I do not think that any problem is limited to the tigers, we just have more blokes about to open a can of worms

 

[newtiger]

The reaction of JT at the press conference was a very poor look when asked if the allegations impacted the performance of the team. Unusually, I thought Woods' answer about not reading papers was not in keeping with his usual laid back style.

I seen your mate Papenhuzen today, he is a long long way from being an NRL player.
He has the build of a matchstick.
Would make a great Center/Winger with that build.

 

[matchball]

Throw him under the bus?
He knew what he was doing was wrong, he lied when being questioned.
Where is the personal responsibility? I'm tired of hearing that Tim is the victim. He is a criminal that's only remorseful because he got caught.

His come and and said he has a gambling problem. It's hypocritical to let other criminals that have actually done damage to other people, in the game and have a hard line for Simona. In top of the there's gambling adverts everywhere. On the the jersey live on TV and at the game. It's sick mate. So much corruption.

You have to go on evidence.
Tim is guilty of conspiring to fix games. Maybe he did or didn't isn't the problem. It's the intent to commit it.
I'm not sure what other players you're speaking about but evidence is key to making allegations stick.
As for the gambling advertising making players bet is bogus.
Nobody takes responsibility anymore for their actions. They are quick to blame depression, drugs and gambling for their crimes.
That's unfair to those that actually suffer from those things.

Addiction for the most part isn't environmental. Unless you have a doctorate in clinical psychology and mental illness I'd suggest we just leave it at the door. Whatever problems the bloke is going through, he should at least have the right to sort it out personally. Once he's done his time and come to grips with what's he's done we can all move on. He's problems are largely no different from a mother that's gambled her child's futures away or a husband that's separated from his wife from alcohol addiction. Simons is front of mind because he's a public figure and a player for a club we call love.

Simona had a chance to come clean to the NRL about everything but lied and lied.
If he really wanted help and come clean like he did to Buzz. The NRL might have been more lenient.

Only came clean once the gig was up and he was gone. Sorry he got caught more like it and wanted some sympathy like he was a victim of a scorned lover.
Give me a break with your doctorate trash.

 

[foreveratiger]

Tim takes coke, Lovett takes coke, how many others?

Who did these blokes come through the juniors with? In saying that I do not think that any problem is limited to the tigers, we just have more blokes about to open a can of worms

I said it ages ago many would be surprised how many NRL players love the coke.

 

[hammertime]

i almost think this is the worst thing Simona did… well maybe behind the charity thing. Ratting on your mates, especially via a gutter rag like the telegraph, is just disgusting and weak. How did we carry this vermin all these years in our squad?

honestly, kids will try things. Mad Monday would be the place to do it. As long as it's trying once, I'm ok with that. Simona never mentioned this was a regular thing.

I think he won't have too many friends at the club now. Our culture is going to take a hit - how are the blokes going to trust each other now thinking there could be another Simona.

I just don't understand why he would do it? The boys came out and supported him after what he did and he goes and makes a comment like that. Is he just super dumb? Doesn't really like the guys or is just one of the biggest douches to walk the earth?

 

[ryanda01]

Only came clean once the gig was up and he was gone. Sorry he got caught more like it and wanted some sympathy like he was a victim of a scorned lover.
Give me a break with your doctorate trash.

This is exactly what people with addictions do. I am not disagreeing what he did was wrong nor do I condone it. What I am saying is that is he is human. He is fallible. And addiction isn't as black and white as what the keyboard warriors make it out to be. If you've had a family torn apart by it, you'd have a differing view then the one from your ivory tower.

 

[Telltails]

Recreational drugs are widely used in society in social situations and are generally accepted, even by those who choose not to engage. Its not an isolated WTs problem its everywhere - and a percentage of cashed up young footy players when given the opportunity are more than likely doing exactly the same as their peers. If the law is unable to win the battle the NRL certainly wont. It all comes down to who gets caught and who doesnt - while there will always be some who are smart enough, or not that way inclined, to take the risk
Think the only thing that has changed since Joey Johns revealed all is that social media has increased the chances of being caught, and at some point you would like to think the penny will drop with those who think that they can stiil get away with it

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Tim's revelations about how he avoided testing will be concerning. Being a novice at some stage, he must have received advice on this issue.