Tim Simona - Deregistered

[matchball]

People still have doubts? On Tim's side? Lol.
Media outlets have all run the story. It's global. Lots of due diligence is done before they run stories of this magnitude.
News outlets and the NRL would be on the hook for tens of millions of dollars in defamation suits if they didn't check sources and got it all wrong.
Let's hope it's fake for Tim's sake and he can sue them for 20 million for irreparable damage to his reputation.

 

[Sco77y]

People still have doubts? On Tim's side? Lol.
Media outlets have all run the story. It's global. Lots of due diligence is done before they run stories of this magnitude.
News outlets and the NRL would be on the hook for tens of millions of dollars in defamation suits if they didn't check sources and got it all wrong.
Let's hope it's fake for Tim's sake and he can sue them for 20 million for irreparable damage to his reputation.

Usually they do seem to print what they want, but in this case it is hard to imagine he's done nothing.. Where there's smoke.. Looking forward to seeing his defence. If there was nothing at all suspicious he wouldn't need a defence, looks odds on guilty of something.

 

[matchball]

People still have doubts? On Tim's side? Lol.
Media outlets have all run the story. It's global. Lots of due diligence is done before they run stories of this magnitude.
News outlets and the NRL would be on the hook for tens of millions of dollars in defamation suits if they didn't check sources and got it all wrong.
Let's hope it's fake for Tim's sake and he can sue them for 20 million for irreparable damage to his reputation.

Usually they do seem to print what they want, but in this case it is hard to imagine he's done nothing.. Where there's smoke.. Looking forward to seeing his defence. If there was nothing at all suspicious he wouldn't need a defence, looks odds on guilty of something.

NRL were alerted in September of 2016.
They have obviously done a lengthy investigation and got the evidence or this story would have gone away by Christmas.
The whole trying to offload him to the titans was a weird move that also needs to be looked at.
Was that a last ditch effort to cover it up but failed?

 

[Sco77y]

People still have doubts? On Tim's side? Lol.
Media outlets have all run the story. It's global. Lots of due diligence is done before they run stories of this magnitude.
News outlets and the NRL would be on the hook for tens of millions of dollars in defamation suits if they didn't check sources and got it all wrong.
Let's hope it's fake for Tim's sake and he can sue them for 20 million for irreparable damage to his reputation.

Usually they do seem to print what they want, but in this case it is hard to imagine he's done nothing.. Where there's smoke.. Looking forward to seeing his defence. If there was nothing at all suspicious he wouldn't need a defence, looks odds on guilty of something.

NRL were alerted in September of 2016.
They have obviously done a lengthy investigation and got the evidence or this story would have gone away by Christmas.
The whole trying to offload him to the titans was a weird move that also needs to be looked at.
Was that a last ditch effort to cover it up but failed?

Totally agree the NRL would have some solid evidence. I feel as though the opportunity given to defend himself is only a formality. They've all but officially found him guilty imo.

 

[PD77]

I don't have doubts. He should be punished…absolutely....100%. A life ban though? I struggle with where the moral compass of the game is at. I get that you have to protect the integrity of the game etc but surely you have to draw some comparisons and think that something is not quite right.

So Russell Packer is involved, charged, convicted and jailed for a vicious assault that included stomping on his victim's face as he lay motionless. 2 years out of the NRL and all is forgiven. Is it just me?????????

I could keep going with all of the domestic violence incidents over the years but I think you get my point.
2 years would seem a reasonable ban in my opinion. Perhaps Packer & his ilk should be the ones getting life bans.

 

[innsaneink]

Agree pdenny

Look at packer… Look at Lodge... Then compare it to Simona
Very out of kilter

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Agree pdenny

Look at packer… Look at Lodge... Then compare it to Simona
Very out of kilter

The punishments versus the types of crimes are really unbalanced, I agree.

However the betting directly affects the game, the game has to take significant action on players influencing outcomes of the game by not providing a genuinely fair contest. If players are throwing games fans and punters alike give the game a wide berth.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

While other incidents may be worse, i think the point the NRL will make is that what Simona did affected the integrity of the game. So does assault to i guess, but betting can directly affect the results of games and that cannot be tolerated.

 

[jadtiger]

I agree with the notion that the punishment should fit the crime, as i have said if Tim has done this i have no problem with the life ban but it really is in stark contrast to where thugs beat up people and only get a short ban from the NRL.
To me it is a very poor reflection on the governing body

 

[fulleightyminutes]

I don't have doubts. He should be punished…absolutely....100%. A life ban though? I struggle with where the moral compass of the game is at. I get that you have to protect the integrity of the game etc but surely you have to draw some comparisons and think that something is not quite right.

So Russell Packer is involved, charged, convicted and jailed for a vicious assault that included stomping on his victim's face as he lay motionless. 2 years out of the NRL and all is forgiven. Is it just me?????????

I could keep going with all of the domestic violence incidents over the years but I think you get my point.
2 years would seem a reasonable ban in my opinion. Perhaps Packer & his ilk should be the ones getting life bans.

I agree Pdenny. It will depend on his level of cooperation and contrition, but I would hope he has the chance to one day come back. I have to believe in forgiveness and rehabilitation otherwise life just seems too bleak. However, I don't know how he'd go finding a team or teammates willing to play with him. If every time he misses a tackle someone wonders 'was that deliberate' how could you play him? He might miss criminal charges but I doubt he'll play again. (Then again there have been cricketers involved in 'match fixing' and come back)

 

[DonnyBrasco]

It's hypocrisy at ten paces.
Gambling sponsorship pervades the NRL.

This dude if guilty, should be given a sponsorship with the gambling companies who happily create such spot betting which is easily manipulated by crooks.

They should make a trophy with his name on it and players should be able to bet as to who will win it each year.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

It's quite clear to players that they should not be betting on games, doesn't matter whether the game takes money from agencies or not.

They take money from alcohol sponsors as well and we rarely hear of players turning up pissed to training.

Where does personal accountability come into things such as this anymore? It's always someone else's fault.

 

[Newtown]

I don't have doubts. He should be punished…absolutely....100%. A life ban though? I struggle with where the moral compass of the game is at. I get that you have to protect the integrity of the game etc but surely you have to draw some comparisons and think that something is not quite right.

So Russell Packer is involved, charged, convicted and jailed for a vicious assault that included stomping on his victim's face as he lay motionless. 2 years out of the NRL and all is forgiven. Is it just me?????????

I could keep going with all of the domestic violence incidents over the years but I think you get my point.
2 years would seem a reasonable ban in my opinion. Perhaps Packer & his ilk should be the ones getting life bans.

I agree Pdenny. It will depend on his level of cooperation and contrition, but I would hope he has the chance to one day come back. I have to believe in forgiveness and rehabilitation otherwise life just seems too bleak. However, I don't know how he'd go finding a team or teammates willing to play with him. If every time he misses a tackle someone wonders 'was that deliberate' how could you play him? He might miss criminal charges but I doubt he'll play again. (Then again there have been cricketers involved in 'match fixing' and come back)

Yes those two test cricketers who were involved in 'match fixing" charges have become Australian sport heroes and international TV sports celebrities.

 

[newtiger]

Agree pdenny

Look at packer… Look at Lodge... Then compare it to Simona
Very out of kilter

Russell Packer should have been deported the minute he was released from gaol, and his visa marked never to be allowed back in Australia.
For what Lodge did a minimum 5 year ban from the NRL.

 

[barra]

I don't have doubts. He should be punished…absolutely....100%. A life ban though? I struggle with where the moral compass of the game is at. I get that you have to protect the integrity of the game etc but surely you have to draw some comparisons and think that something is not quite right.

So Russell Packer is involved, charged, convicted and jailed for a vicious assault that included stomping on his victim's face as he lay motionless. 2 years out of the NRL and all is forgiven. Is it just me?????????

I could keep going with all of the domestic violence incidents over the years but I think you get my point.
2 years would seem a reasonable ban in my opinion. Perhaps Packer & his ilk should be the ones getting life bans.

I agree Pdenny. It will depend on his level of cooperation and contrition, but I would hope he has the chance to one day come back. I have to believe in forgiveness and rehabilitation otherwise life just seems too bleak. However, I don't know how he'd go finding a team or teammates willing to play with him. If every time he misses a tackle someone wonders 'was that deliberate' how could you play him? He might miss criminal charges but I doubt he'll play again. (Then again there have been cricketers involved in 'match fixing' and come back)

I agree. Fine the heck out of him, and let his peers/club judge his future.

 

[newtiger]

Who would want to sign him or play along side of him.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

It's hypocrisy at ten paces.
Gambling sponsorship pervades the NRL.

This dude if guilty, should be given a sponsorship with the gambling companies who happily create such spot betting which is easily manipulated by crooks.

They should make a trophy with his name on it and players should be able to bet as to who will win it each year.

:laughing:

 

[TCL]

Meaning of the word Integrity:

The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.
"a gentleman of complete integrity"
synonyms: honesty, uprightness, probity, rectitude, honour, honourableness, upstandingness, good character, principle(s), ethics, morals, righteousness, morality, nobility, high-mindedness, right-mindedness, noble-mindedness, virtue, decency, fairness, scrupulousness, sincerity, truthfulness, trustworthiness
"I never doubted his integrity"

I just dont understand how bashing someone on the street, your partner or drug related incidents are not deemed as severe when we talk about the integrity of the game.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't have doubts. He should be punished…absolutely....100%. A life ban though? I struggle with where the moral compass of the game is at. I get that you have to protect the integrity of the game etc but surely you have to draw some comparisons and think that something is not quite right.

So Russell Packer is involved, charged, convicted and jailed for a vicious assault that included stomping on his victim's face as he lay motionless. 2 years out of the NRL and all is forgiven. Is it just me?????????

I could keep going with all of the domestic violence incidents over the years but I think you get my point.
2 years would seem a reasonable ban in my opinion. Perhaps Packer & his ilk should be the ones getting life bans.

I agree Pdenny. It will depend on his level of cooperation and contrition, but I would hope he has the chance to one day come back. I have to believe in forgiveness and rehabilitation otherwise life just seems too bleak. However, I don't know how he'd go finding a team or teammates willing to play with him. If every time he misses a tackle someone wonders 'was that deliberate' how could you play him? He might miss criminal charges but I doubt he'll play again. (Then again there have been cricketers involved in 'match fixing' and come back)

Yes those two test cricketers who were involved in 'match fixing" charges have become Australian sport heroes and international TV sports celebrities.

When was selling information about pitch and weather conditions considered match fixing? Accepting money to throw your wicket away or bowl poorly deliberately in order to influence the result is match fixing.

 

[newtiger]

Meaning of the word Integrity:

The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.
"a gentleman of complete integrity"
synonyms: honesty, uprightness, probity, rectitude, honour, honourableness, upstandingness, good character, principle(s), ethics, morals, righteousness, morality, nobility, high-mindedness, right-mindedness, noble-mindedness, virtue, decency, fairness, scrupulousness, sincerity, truthfulness, trustworthiness
"I never doubted his integrity"

I just dont understand how bashing someone on the street, your partner or drug related incidents are not deemed as severe when we talk about the integrity of the game.

Totally agree TCL Packer, Lodge, Semi, Edwards have done as much as Simona to damage the integrity of the game and were punished with a feather duster.