Time for a change at the top :Anasta
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GNR4LIFE
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@Pedro m said:
He's been in first grade for 10 yrs mate. Surely thats been long to learn his name isn't spelled with 2 r's.
Tigerdave
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I think Braith should just shut-up and stop stoking the fire
I couldn't care less if Farah walks now or is demoted from captain. He lacks leadership, just like everyone else in the club in a position of power.
@Granto87 said:
I disagree. While I'm no Anasta fan, he is someone with a good inside picture of what's going on with the club. He also has no obvious agenda as he's out the door at seasons end. Many on this forum agree that something is rotten at the top and needs cleaning up but without inside information we rely on rumour and snippets of 'facts'. I don't mind that he 'stokes the fire' because at the same time he is clearly pointing to the smoke, giving us another snippet.
I have tried to take a balanced position re Farah in my comments but am slowly gaining the opinion that he has too much power and has something to answer for in all this mess. The situation of Farah refusing to communicate with Mayer is simply ridiculous, and it points to a bigger problem.
What is the larger club dynamic that is allowing this to happen? Is someone at the top effectively undermining Mayer and protecting Farah? In what work place can an employee refuse to talk with the CEO? Again, we need to get this board sorted.
I like having Farah in the side but this is BS. He needs to be reminded of his role and where the door is.
@NT Tiger said:
I agree NT, though not about the door. This would be a written warning and a tough direct conversation with your manager in any reasonable organisation. In my experience it happens when a persons ego gets away from them and equally as important they haven't had strong behaviour coaching.
It sets a terrible example for others around Farah about what leadership is and how players should behave. This type of behaviour is culture defining in one of two ways
1\. It is modelled by the leader and then immitated by followers, over time becoming "how things are done around here"
2\. It is modelled by the leader, rejected by the organisation, becoming one of the culture defining stories of "how we don't behave around here"
I hope some-one pulls Robbie (who is a champion player and wants to do right by the club) aside and gives him some 'mentoring'.
I feel very very sorry for Potter. Once again this doesn't help him. A strong coach would never let this fester. Never ever ever.
I agree re the written warning and tough discussion. Part of that discussion would necessarily involve 'how things are done here' with the implication, if you don't like it one of your options is the door.
I agree that someone needs to pull Farah into line. I would rather he was in the side than out, but if the CEO can't pull him into line then who?
I disagree that Potter should be the one accountable for the 'festering', especially when, in this instance, it is between Farah and Mayer (Potters employer). I don't believe it is Potters role to try to tame Farah's ego or his attempts to wield power within the club except where that pertains to on field performances.
I agree that someone needs to pull Farah into line. I would rather he was in the side than out, but if the CEO can't pull him into line then who?
I disagree that Potter should be the one accountable for the 'festering', especially when, in this instance, it is between Farah and Mayer (Potters employer). I don't believe it is Potters role to try to tame Farah's ego or his attempts to wield power within the club except where that pertains to on field performances.
@GNR4LIFE said:
Whilst I think us supporters could deal with life after robbie, i don't think the team is ready for life without robbie 'yet'. We need brooks and moses to become established first graders before robbie is let go. We saw what life without robbie entails on the field during the origin period this year..
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@Tony33 said:
That is true this year,but with Brooks and Moses 1 year older and a little more wiser,and throw in Cherrington instead of Luani a different coach and more stable envirronment and it is a whole better outlook.
Luani is not really the answer,he tries and defends ok,but Cherrington would offer a whole lot more.
@NT Tiger said:
I can see your point. That means then that it is the CEO's role to coach Farah on non football behavior. This leaves the football coach to focus on football performance and behaviour (on field / at training). It may be a little confusing for a player to have two 'reporting lines'.
I would probably stick with Coach owns everything player and how football is played. CEO owns everything non player: Sales, Marketing, facilities, financials and non football operations.
I would empower my coach to make 99% of decisions regarding players (including coaching of behaviour)
CEO's primary objectives would be Membership and Sponsorships. His secondary focus would be facilities and operations. Finance would be the control or performance measure for him (Revenue vs cost).
Football team performance would be coach. Coach lives or dies by team position average over two years. Injuries are merely context. Sales managers don't get let off their budget because their customer has a tough year. They are required to find a way to win. Coach should be the same.
supercoach
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In any football club that is doing it tough on the field,their will be wild speculation flying around the joint about who is to blame and what needs to be done.
Their is a simple fix, develop a winning culture and a winning team and all the crap goes away and their might even be room for Mayer,Potter and Farah in the one club.
Like with most things a common goal from top to bottom, plenty of hard work and one or two very smart buys and the road from near the bottom to near the top could be quicker than we think. Although one thing is for certain everyone has to be on the same wave length and if Farah, Mayer or anyone else have other ideas, its time to move on
Their is a simple fix, develop a winning culture and a winning team and all the crap goes away and their might even be room for Mayer,Potter and Farah in the one club.
Like with most things a common goal from top to bottom, plenty of hard work and one or two very smart buys and the road from near the bottom to near the top could be quicker than we think. Although one thing is for certain everyone has to be on the same wave length and if Farah, Mayer or anyone else have other ideas, its time to move on
Perhaps my understanding of the organisational structure of the club is wrong. I understood that the reporting line would be; Board<->CEO<->Coach<->Players. If that is the case then, no it is not the CEO's role to coach anybody, but it is the CEO's role to tell a player to pull his head in if he is not cooperating with non field related matters. Whereas it is not the coaches role to intervene in a dispute between another employee and the boss (other than perhaps to have a quiet word on the side). I don't believe it is confusing as there is only one reporting line and the one in line above Potter is Mayer. If the issue has nothing to do with Potter, Farah reports to next in line, Mayer.
If my understanding of organisational structure is wrong, does that mean that both Farah and Potter report directly to the board along separate lines? If that is so then I agree with your assessment.
In either case, I fully agree with your statement; "I would empower my coach to make 99% of decisions regarding players (including coaching of behaviour)". However it appears from Anasta's comments that is not the case. When a players ego and/or attempts to wield power are being entertained by those in positions of power above the coach, the coach is not empowered. Therein lies the problem.
Can anyone explain, the club's organisational structure to me please?
If my understanding of organisational structure is wrong, does that mean that both Farah and Potter report directly to the board along separate lines? If that is so then I agree with your assessment.
In either case, I fully agree with your statement; "I would empower my coach to make 99% of decisions regarding players (including coaching of behaviour)". However it appears from Anasta's comments that is not the case. When a players ego and/or attempts to wield power are being entertained by those in positions of power above the coach, the coach is not empowered. Therein lies the problem.
Can anyone explain, the club's organisational structure to me please?
@NT Tiger said:
Please stop over analysing everything . The only problem is we are not winning. Farahs ego, Potters personality and Mayers twitter account would not be an issue if we were successful.. We are short of first graders atm and have too many undeveloped young guys trying to cover for them. We follow a club that dosnt have the capital to buy a new team - cannot even begin to compare our roster with the Roosters and Souths . Our only hope is our juniors and some patience. If you cant handle that, really you are supporting the wrong club. Last week the Jarryd Hayne article touched on his much talked about ego -which he openly owns - all good this year - because they are winning and he is having a stellar year. They appear to have finally got a coach who is getting the most from the players, and low and behold the stories about their dysfunctional board have gone quiet, The negative talk about Farah comes form those who don't like him - fair enough - but geez whats been thrown at him this year was completely out of his control unless you believe he organised the mid year review. Up until then we were performing better than most expected, and Farahs form was good.
Have to agree with Telltails - plus getting tired of the Farah bashing.
All the innuendo about what he did or didn't do or say is just that - speculation.
People want to get rid of him or give him a kick up the backside based on …. what?
Certainly not facts because up until this point nobody knows the facts.
For anybody thinking Cherrington could fill his shoes....REALLY?
Farah is one of the top 2 hookers in the game, you don't replace that with an untried kid thrown in with a bunch of other kids.
All the innuendo about what he did or didn't do or say is just that - speculation.
People want to get rid of him or give him a kick up the backside based on …. what?
Certainly not facts because up until this point nobody knows the facts.
For anybody thinking Cherrington could fill his shoes....REALLY?
Farah is one of the top 2 hookers in the game, you don't replace that with an untried kid thrown in with a bunch of other kids.
happy_tiger
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@cktiger said:
Cherrington will be the starting hooker in the 2017 season (assuming he is still at the tigers )
He is that good CK
happy_tiger
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I reckon by 2017 we will be doing everything in our powers to have both Robbie and Manaia both in the starting line up
If we have a big enough forward pack you could play Robbie in the 13 jersey
By the way 2017 is only 2 seasons and two games away , it will be around the corner before you know it
If we have a big enough forward pack you could play Robbie in the 13 jersey
By the way 2017 is only 2 seasons and two games away , it will be around the corner before you know it
