Time to Give Credit to JT?

[Eddie]

I think 100% its time to start giving him credit. People think I hate the guy, I don't. I have never once saif he can't caoch or should be sacked. I just wanted to see genuine results and improvement and I am starting to see it.

Finish this season with another couple of wins and its a job well done this season.Next season we have the talent and the ability to make the Top 4 and Top 8 at the very least.

Football can be a fickle game though, we cant afford to finish the season with 4 losses. We need to keep playing really good, competitive football and head into the off season with a heap of momentum.

 

[Eddie]

The fact he's managed to maintain the players focus over the last month is probably his biggest achievement. 2 yrs ago when it erupted under Potter, the players turned to water. Under JT they have raised their game. He deserves credit.

That is very unfair on Potter.

JT has a full team at his disposal. Some of the teams we had on the park on 2014 were missing 8-10 players late in the year.

 

[stevetiger]

A lot on here have forgotten about Craig Sandercock.

I just mentioned this on another thread. I think Taylor recognised that he was actually a dud coach and that we needed to completely change our approach. He gets Sanercock and all of a sudden we actually have good attacking plays. They don't always come off but that isn't the point. It's about having a go.

We will never know if this is what happened and I suppose it doesn't matter. The point is our approach has done a 180\. The coach recognised how poorly he was performing and did something constructive.

 

[rialto]

Taylor was the assistant and attacking coach when Roosters won the grand final. Downhill since he left. I would say the head coach oversees the lot and makes the final decisions.
And as far as so called 'real coaches' go what has happened to multi premier winning coaches like Bennett? Wasn't able to get Knights up either. From what I have heard and read being said by our young team Taylor is certainly an inspirational coach and he has them playing for each other. For that alone he deserves enormous credit.
Read recently that Hayne was rookie of the year 2005 - COACHED BY JT. Winning 9 on the trot. Perhaps he is a much better coach than people give him credit for. The fact is we are all armchair coaches and don't really know all the reasons why certain decisions are made so should be a little less heavy handed in our criticisms.

 

[tigerap]

“I’ve been working closely with JT and he’s been massive for my game,’’ Moses said of Taylor.
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This says it all… And would be music to the ears of the WT board......Now go away all the JT bashers.... :sign:

 

[rialto]

A lot on here have forgotten about Craig Sandercock.

I don't think so, and for mine more credit to Taylor for bringing him here and praising his input. The complete team he originally assembled and subsequent changes have most of our squad available to fire each and every week. When he himself was an assistant at the chooks, the team was firing and Robinson spoke well of his tactical input.

I think credit has to be shared with our chair as she has driven a change of culture from top to bottom, with only one hiccup in backing a change upon the arrival of our new CEO. I suggest hat all listen to an interview posted on WT website last week. She has the acumen and real passion for the club.

Also loving the aggressive Suaso and his continued on field rise GNR, and that he is such a good person off the field that enjoys a hug with the chair.

Excellent Post !!!!!!! We are very lucky to have someone of Marina Go's caliber at our club.

 

[Bird is the Word]

The fact he's managed to maintain the players focus over the last month is probably his biggest achievement. 2 yrs ago when it erupted under Potter, the players turned to water. Under JT they have raised their game. He deserves credit.

That is very unfair on Potter.

JT has a full team at his disposal. Some of the teams we had on the park on 2014 were missing 8-10 players late in the year.

Different management as well… It's hard to know for sure while not being directly involved in the club, but i get the sense that Pascoes leadership has created an environment where Taylor is able to succeed and manage issues effectively. May not have been as easy at the time for Potter without the same support.

Taylor is going well... He always maintained 2015 would be a rebuilding year and it is starting to pay dividends...

 

[bigsiro]

I thought last week was a masterclass in how to take down the Cowboys. Kudos.

But then again I feel like the Cowboys hardly attacked our weak right side…no idea why.

But then again Taylor has clearly been able to cultivate team spirit.

But on the other hand he still picks Lovett....I just don't get it.

Anyway, if we can contain ourselves and get into the 8 that will be credit-worthy, undeniably.

If he can steer us into week 2 of finals he is probably Coach of the Year.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I thought last week was a masterclass in how to take down the Cowboys. Kudos.

But then again I feel like the Cowboys hardly attacked our weak right side…no idea why.

But then again Taylor has clearly been able to cultivate team spirit.

But on the other hand he still picks Lovett....I just don't get it.

Anyway, if we can contain ourselves and get into the 8 that will be credit-worthy, undeniably.

If he can steer us into week 2 of finals he is probably Coach of the Year.

They went down the right a lot. It probably doesn't seem that way as we're not used to there being no glaring errors from that trio during a game.

As for Lovett, i really don't get why he still cops it. What he lacks in ability, he makes up for in heart. He plays like he has to earn it.

 

[ricksen]

Taylor was the assistant and attacking coach when Roosters won the grand final. Downhill since he left.

He left at the end of 2014 - they won the minor premiership in 2015\. Hardly downhill.
This year has been a struggle as they've had loads of injuries and lost a couple of big players.

 

[Russell]

Well he failed.

That is all semantics. He took us to last place and he did that on the back of terrible game plans. We were the worst coached team in the comp last year.

Do the team deserving the coaching award for coaching the coach?

I'm not sure what you mean. This is my opinion on the subject and it isn't factual. I don't think Taylor is a tactical coach or a coach that comes up with good game plans. I think what has happened is that he has employed Sandercock to do that for him. I think Taylor is now more managing the team and using the resources that he has available to him rather than trying to do something that he is poor at.

I'm 100% cool with that and it explains why his coaching was so bad last year and the significant improvement this year.

Of course it's just a guess but it makes sense.

No it doesn't Steve.

When we go bad it is because JT can't coach but when we are going good it is not JT, it Is someone else and JT is just a manager. It would not hurt you to acknowledge and give credit when it is deserved. It is deserved, you only have to believe your eyes to see that.

I have heard some ridiculous reasons why JT should not be acknowledged but yours is unbelievable. Just about every second post on here you say is spin - with your effort you could be the original Spider-Man. You keep saying he can't coach, he has hopeless or no game plans, he chooses the wrong players etc. etc.

What he did at Parramatta, Souffs and the Rorters is proof that he can coach - he had to do a lot of ground work here before he could see some decent results. He will see even more when he has the money to buy a couple of players to fill our need.

Please go back to fence sitting.

 

[tigermac88]

I thought last week was a masterclass in how to take down the Cowboys. Kudos.

But then again I feel like the Cowboys hardly attacked our weak right side…no idea why.

But then again Taylor has clearly been able to cultivate team spirit.

But on the other hand he still picks Lovett....I just don't get it.

Anyway, if we can contain ourselves and get into the 8 that will be credit-worthy, undeniably.

If he can steer us into week 2 of finals he is probably Coach of the Year.

They went down the right a lot. It probably doesn't seem that way as we're not used to there being no glaring errors from that trio during a game.

As for Lovett, i really don't get why he still cops it. What he lacks in ability, he makes up for in heart. He plays like he has to earn it.

I coach a few guys that are all heart on the football field it doesn't make them NRL footballers :laughing:

 

[stevetiger]

That is all semantics. He took us to last place and he did that on the back of terrible game plans. We were the worst coached team in the comp last year.

Do the team deserving the coaching award for coaching the coach?

I'm not sure what you mean. This is my opinion on the subject and it isn't factual. I don't think Taylor is a tactical coach or a coach that comes up with good game plans. I think what has happened is that he has employed Sandercock to do that for him. I think Taylor is now more managing the team and using the resources that he has available to him rather than trying to do something that he is poor at.

I'm 100% cool with that and it explains why his coaching was so bad last year and the significant improvement this year.

Of course it's just a guess but it makes sense.

No it doesn't Steve.

When we go bad it is because JT can't coach but when we are going good it is not JT, it Is someone else and JT is just a manager. It would not hurt you to acknowledge and give credit when it is deserved. It is deserved, you only have to believe your eyes to see that.

I have heard some ridiculous reasons why JT should not be acknowledged but yours is unbelievable. Just about every second post on here you say is spin - with your effort you could be the original Spider-Man. You keep saying he can't coach, he has hopeless or no game plans, he chooses the wrong players etc. etc.

What he did at Parramatta, Souffs and the Rorters is proof that he can coach - he had to do a lot of ground work here before he could see some decent results. He will see even more when he has the money to buy a couple of players to fill our need.

Please go back to fence sitting.

Russell - I am giving him credit. I've said he has turned things around this year. I don't care if Sandercock is the one coming up with the attacking game plans. That to me reflects positively on Taylor.

 

[larrycorowa]

Look here is another bash jt for everything muppett

 

[MAFIA]

I was going to say the jury is out still so all of a sudden after 3 good wins we are being asked to give him credit why wasn't this question asked after the Canberra rout hmmmm

 

[LCA]

No. Simple.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

I was going to say the jury is out still so all of a sudden after 3 good wins we are being asked to give him credit why wasn't this question asked after the Canberra rout hmmmm

Didn't have to ask. Taylor, Pascoe and the playing group all took responsibility.

That's the point of this thread. Acknowledging the impact of Taylor and his coaching staff on the improvement since that match. Taylor is not going to come out and publicly take responsibility for the improvement.

 

[gallagher]

I was going to say the jury is out still so all of a sudden after 3 good wins we are being asked to give him credit why wasn't this question asked after the Canberra rout hmmmm

Didn't have to ask. Taylor, Pascoe and the playing group all took responsibility.

That's the point of this thread. Acknowledging the impact of Taylor and his coach just FG staff on the improvement since that match.

Its pretty straight forward isn't it!
Maybe a loss this week will bring a smile back to some people's faces.

 

[cktiger]

I was going to say the jury is out still so all of a sudden after 3 good wins we are being asked to give him credit why wasn't this question asked after the Canberra rout hmmmm

Didn't have to ask. Taylor, Pascoe and the playing group all took responsibility.

That's the point of this thread. Acknowledging the impact of Taylor and his coach just FG staff on the improvement since that match.

Its pretty straight forward isn't it!
Maybe a loss this week will bring a smile back to some people's faces.

You seem to find it hard to comprehend that people who think Taylor is a dud still want the team they support to succeed.

 

[haynefan]

i think JT is like a snake in the grass u cant trust him….

And before the Tigers vs Cowboys match…

O.K. ME, JLJ IS A WASTE OF SPACE he is in the same class as lovett and edwards , JT is so pigheaded we have to hookers in NSW CUP and none in 1ST grade. can see us getting a hammering on sunday, hope all the JT lovers will be happy, and just to show how gracious i can be , <big>**if we win i will write a glowing report on JT.**</big>

Still waiting on that glowing report on JT, mate.