king_sirro
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Im struggling to sew why that footage shows he is more of a half than a fullback???
Timmy moltzen
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@kh_canada said:
I think Brooks is our long term 7,but Miller has earned a crack,I totally agree on Teddy though,he should be our 1 in round 1,he has it all over Moltzen at fullback play.
Brisbane_Tiger
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Fair
Dinkum.
Look moltzen deserves a crack under potter but as soon as he dogs it (which we all know he will) teddy slots straight in and Moltz goes to nsw cup.
He is a back up utility player who would not make the run on team at any other club.
As for moving Marshall??? :roll
Dinkum.
Look moltzen deserves a crack under potter but as soon as he dogs it (which we all know he will) teddy slots straight in and Moltz goes to nsw cup.
He is a back up utility player who would not make the run on team at any other club.
As for moving Marshall??? :roll
hybrid_tiger
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I keep reading Moltzen has "talent". Can someone please define this "talent"?
He is a ball running #6 who has speed. What "talent" does he have? He is not an organiser? Never seen him create a try on his own. Not a great support player. Doesn't have a kicking game (never shown it in first grade). Atrocious under the high ball etc. etc.
So where's the talent?
He is a ball running #6 who has speed. What "talent" does he have? He is not an organiser? Never seen him create a try on his own. Not a great support player. Doesn't have a kicking game (never shown it in first grade). Atrocious under the high ball etc. etc.
So where's the talent?
How many 'experts' saying how wonderful Tedesco is has seen him play more than two halves of football to base their assumptions on?
Not many.
Jump on the bandwagon boys and girls.
If he is good enough (and I hope he is) as some judges say he'll get there on his own merits- not because of all the backslappers on this forum.
My opinion has always been that Moltzen should be in the halves- but if he can improve his positioning under the high ball then he will be a pretty decent fullback.
Not many.
Jump on the bandwagon boys and girls.
If he is good enough (and I hope he is) as some judges say he'll get there on his own merits- not because of all the backslappers on this forum.
My opinion has always been that Moltzen should be in the halves- but if he can improve his positioning under the high ball then he will be a pretty decent fullback.
bonstonker
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the footage shows the exact opposite.
a runner.
i don't believe his step is as sharp since his knee injury.
if he had put a player through a gap,it would have been there.if i made a new one from the past few seasons i would say maybe 2 plays that had a retreating defense.all he does is run at the line or pass 8 yards before the line.
he doesn't challenge the line with the ball in his hands.he doesn't use his legs to set up the pass by committing players at the line.once he is inside 5 yards of the line he is running it 98% of the time and throwing a dummy 50%.
if i was a coach of the opposition i would fine any player that fell for a moltzen dummy.
right now i'm more worried about our forwards creating enough chances for our halves in the opposition 20 .
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until we get this right all this talk is just noise.lawrence,aysh,miller,moltz, benji have had the deck stacked against them because of our forwards.
more specifically, our backrow and lack of prop depth.
a runner.
i don't believe his step is as sharp since his knee injury.
if he had put a player through a gap,it would have been there.if i made a new one from the past few seasons i would say maybe 2 plays that had a retreating defense.all he does is run at the line or pass 8 yards before the line.
he doesn't challenge the line with the ball in his hands.he doesn't use his legs to set up the pass by committing players at the line.once he is inside 5 yards of the line he is running it 98% of the time and throwing a dummy 50%.
if i was a coach of the opposition i would fine any player that fell for a moltzen dummy.
right now i'm more worried about our forwards creating enough chances for our halves in the opposition 20 .
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until we get this right all this talk is just noise.lawrence,aysh,miller,moltz, benji have had the deck stacked against them because of our forwards.
more specifically, our backrow and lack of prop depth.
GNR4LIFE
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What a surprise that the only Tedesco critic on this forum is Moltzen's biggest fanboy. Obviously a little nervous knowing that if Tedesco succeeds its going to leave one particular player out in the cold
@GNR4LIFE said:
About time you took lessons in comprehension … or perhaps you don't actually read the posts before being narky?
Can you tell me where I criticised Tedesco?
I actually said I hoped he did live up to the hype.
There would only be a few on here who have seen him play more than the two halves of football that the majority has watched.
The rest of the people on this forum ( including me - and most probably you) haven't seen enough of him play to be calling him the next best thing since sliced bread.
As for Moltzen ... I support the CLUB.
If he is good enough , on his own merits , to be in the team then so be it.
No different to what I said about Tedesco. :unamused:
@Hbom said:
Keeping in mind that Moltzen isn't a natural fullback. It's comparing chalk & cheese.
I like Moltzen and I would love to see him produce some good football but in all honesty his best days were before his injury, unless he can overcome his fears surrounding his knee he won't excel in first grade rugby league.
Joel Helmes
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He's not a fullback, he's not a halfback - then what is he?
I keep hearing 5/8, it ain't going to happen while Marshall has the six.
He should have taken up the Dragons contract.
I keep hearing 5/8, it ain't going to happen while Marshall has the six.
He should have taken up the Dragons contract.
People view everything in black and white (and I dont mean the magpies) terms everyone is either amazing or useless….
truth is in most cases they are somewhere in between.
Stats dont prove everything, but I read a nice little snippet on Moltzen from Ben Ikin discussing Tim Moltzen, and apart from metres gained where Tim was poor, he was strong in every other facet including errors and so forth.
People on here solely focus on the way he takes the ball back, ignoring the the dozen tries and line breaks he made or the try assists and line break assists. He can play is good, the criticism directed his way is often grossly unfair, he is not the perfect player but he is far from the muppet people on here make him out to be.
truth is in most cases they are somewhere in between.
Stats dont prove everything, but I read a nice little snippet on Moltzen from Ben Ikin discussing Tim Moltzen, and apart from metres gained where Tim was poor, he was strong in every other facet including errors and so forth.
People on here solely focus on the way he takes the ball back, ignoring the the dozen tries and line breaks he made or the try assists and line break assists. He can play is good, the criticism directed his way is often grossly unfair, he is not the perfect player but he is far from the muppet people on here make him out to be.
