Timmy moltzen

@BenjiMagic96 said:
As I have said before I think Moltzen should play at centre this year

1\. Tedesco
2\. Koroibete
3\. Moltzen
4\. Brien/Nofoluama
5\. Lawrence

6\. Marshall
7\. Miller/Brooks

you've said a lot…
nothing worth being taken serious.

1\. Tedesco
2\. Koroibete
3\. Lawrence
4\. Simona/Brien/Reddy
5\. Utai/Brien/Nofo

11\. Ayshford

14\. Moltzen ... revitalize his career @ 14 like Daniel Mortimer.
 
@Demps said:
@BenjiMagic96 said:
As I have said before I think Moltzen should play at centre this year

1\. Tedesco
2\. Koroibete
3\. Moltzen
4\. Brien/Nofoluama
5\. Lawrence

6\. Marshall
7\. Miller/Brooks

you've said a lot…
nothing worth being taken serious.

1\. Tedesco
2\. Koroibete
3\. Lawrence
4\. Simona/Brien/Reddy
5\. Utai/Brien/Nofo

11\. Ayshford

14\. Moltzen ... revitalize his career @ 14 like Daniel Mortimer.

Explains why you would have Reddy and Utai?
 
I try to be reasonable when it comes to our players but Tim Moltzen is 24 and has played 80 games for us at fullback, halfback, five eighth and centre, all positions that should equate to him having a much longer highlight reel than 3.5 minutes. Robert Lui has a twice as long highlight reel by Bon and played half the matches. It's telling to me that Bon couldn't find highlights.
 
@MacDougall said:
I try to be reasonable when it comes to our players but Tim Moltzen is 24 and has played 80 games for us at fullback, halfback, five eighth and centre, all positions that should equate to him having a much longer highlight reel than 3.5 minutes. Robert Lui has a twice as long highlight reel by Bon and played half the matches. It's telling to me that Bon couldn't find highlights.

tbf that video is only of his first 50 at best
 
@mtd said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJi3yvg4QH0

people are quick to judge him based on his performances as a fullback.. a position he had never played before NRL.

in this highlights package i youtubed, you will see that when he has the ball in hand and attacking the line - he is dangerous.

he is a playmaker. a 6 or 7\. not a fullback.

1\. tedesco
2\. lawrence
3\. marshall (drop back for lawrence on kick return).
4\. ayshford
5\. koribete
6\. moltzen
7\. miller

thats a premiership winning backline.

Great footage of a talented player. He is a 5/8 no doubt. Very much maligned on this forum but people forget his incredible performance in 2011\. 2012 was poor. IMO he needs a confident team around him. He lacks aggression at fullback but in open play he is a gun. He will be signed as a half with starting spot IMO if we don't keep him

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@MacDougall said:
I try to be reasonable when it comes to our players but Tim Moltzen is 24 and has played 80 games for us at fullback, halfback, five eighth and centre, all positions that should equate to him having a much longer highlight reel than 3.5 minutes. **Robert Lui has a twice as long highlight reel by Bon and played half the matches.** It's telling to me that Bon couldn't find highlights.

You could make a 2 hour **lowlight** reel of Lui's missed tackles - and keep adding to it if he's lucky enough to make first grade again.
 
@Demps said:
@BenjiMagic96 said:
As I have said before I think Moltzen should play at centre this year

1\. Tedesco
2\. Koroibete
3\. Moltzen
4\. Brien/Nofoluama
5\. Lawrence

6\. Marshall
7\. Miller/Brooks

you've said a lot…
nothing worth being taken serious.

1\. Tedesco
2\. Koroibete
3\. Lawrence
4\. Simona/Brien/Reddy
5\. Utai/Brien/Nofo

11\. Ayshford

14\. Moltzen ... revitalize his career @ 14 like Daniel Mortimer.

having a dig at others yet having a side where you have 5 different people for 2 positions.
dont think people would take that too much seriously either.
 
@Goose said:
People view everything in black and white (and I dont mean the magpies) terms everyone is either amazing or useless….

truth is in most cases they are somewhere in between.

Stats dont prove everything, but I read a nice little snippet on Moltzen from Ben Ikin discussing Tim Moltzen, and apart from metres gained where Tim was poor, he was strong in every other facet including errors and so forth.

People on here solely focus on the way he takes the ball back, ignoring the the dozen tries and line breaks he made or the try assists and line break assists. He can play is good, the criticism directed his way is often grossly unfair, he is not the perfect player but he is far from the muppet people on here make him out to be.

Well said.
 
@cktiger said:
You could make a 2 hour **lowlight** reel of Lui's missed tackles - and keep adding to it if he's lucky enough to make first grade again.

Yesssss…...peeps often forget Lui's woeful tackling,
 
As a fullback Moltzen has shown himself to be only a fair track runner. When the team is doing well he is all over the games playmakers looking for opportunity. When things get difficult he has in the past few years at fullback (IMHO) tried to make himself as small as possible and pray that nobody gives him the ball or asks anything major of him. He wasn't alone in that though.

New year, new coach, new slate. I was dissapointed at his Foundation Cup performance especially compared to the involvement of Tedesco but i didn't see his Parra trial and by all reports he was very good.

Unless he has a meltdown of epic proportions I would hope he has the confidence of those around him and the fans because confidence breeds success
 
Very true about confidence Smeg. If Moltz is our fullback, I will be cheering him on. Would encourage others to do the same.
 
@simonthetiger said:
@cktiger said:
You could make a 2 hour **lowlight** reel of Lui's missed tackles - and keep adding to it if he's lucky enough to make first grade again.

Yesssss…...peeps often forget Lui's woeful tackling,

They also tend to forget his excellent performances, particularly in big games. For example the Dragons semi in 2010 Lui was just about the best player on the park. In the 2011 finals he was close to our best player as well.

Moltzen on the other hand is a flat track bully. He looks good running the ball when everything is going our way but when we are in an arm wrestle, or a tight game he disappears.
 
@Goose said:
People view everything in black and white (and I dont mean the magpies) terms everyone is either amazing or useless….

truth is in most cases they are somewhere in between.

Stats dont prove everything, but I read a nice little snippet on Moltzen from Ben Ikin discussing Tim Moltzen, and apart from metres gained where Tim was poor, he was strong in every other facet including errors and so forth.

People on here solely focus on the way he takes the ball back, ignoring the the dozen tries and line breaks he made or the try assists and line break assists. He can play is good, the criticism directed his way is often grossly unfair, he is not the perfect player but he is far from the muppet people on here make him out to be.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

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@jirskyr said:
Timmy Moltzen is certainly the new Danny Fitzhenry.

Well someone needed to be a scapegoat for the fans. Though I think Moltzen is a more talented and better footballer then Fitzhenry.

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@simonthetiger said:
@cktiger said:
You could make a 2 hour **lowlight** reel of Lui's missed tackles - and keep adding to it if he's lucky enough to make first grade again.

Yesssss…...peeps often forget Lui's woeful tackling,

And forget the dramatic improvement in it towards the end of his time here
 
How does bagging a guy that hasn't played at the club in over a season somehow justify Moltz's deficiencies.
Lui had defence issues, (What half doesn't) But he was an attaking halfback, New when to take the line and when to straighten up!! And quite a few years younger than your beloved Moltz CK.
I have watched both Trials, I have watched hours upon hours of both James Tedesco and Moltz at 1,
Moltz has worked on some of his difficiencies at the back, And deserves a chance as the incumbent… Truth is (And I can't wait until you actually see it for yourself) We don't actually look dangerous when he is on the park.... Never have!! Tedesco attacks the ball, follows forwards through the ruck, positional play for kick returns is top notch, Sets up trys with kicks... Not one of these things have I ever seen Moltz do. Teddy is a true Fulklback, Not a make shift, Not a second stringer... He is the real deal!!
If Moltz's talk is better than Tedescos' then well and good, But I can assure you... That's the only thing he is better at!!
Simply put, The longer we keep Tedesco out of Firsts.... The more games we will lose!!
 
must be close to Season kick off…bagging players before the comp starts

I can see the threads now if we lose on Monday..

Sack Potter,
Sack Motlz,
Sack the whole bloody team
 
@batboy said:
If Moltz's talk is better than Tedescos' then well and good, But I can assure you… That's the only thing he is better at!!
Simply put, The longer we keep Tedesco out of Firsts.... The more games we will lose!!

I don't think Moltzen's talk is better than Tedesco its just pretty much all Potter could come up with because Tedesco is better in every other aspect and Potter knows it.
Potter also knows if Moltzen is dropped then Benji ain't going to be very happy, I guarantee you Moltzen won't be playing any NSW cup…. he will be in the team all year.
 
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