Toddy hedging his bets

[Russell]

Souffs and Rorters need to merge (still a minuscule area of Sydney).

Sharks to Perth after being deregistered and new franchaise set up there.

Titans to Ipswich and NRL buy Manly and move them to wherever they want.

Down to 12 - then they add whom they wish, whenever they wish.

Problem solved.

 

[diedpretty]

If the Tigers stay financial there is nothing the NRL can do …as I have already touched upon one home ground and a United support base will make it hard for the NRL to do anything …but if the bad old days of the running of the club return I can definitely see the club folding down the track …over to you BARRY! your predecessor set the bench mark for our club to be financial .

This financially independent is a bit of a furphy. Wests Ashfield gave a grant of 900k to Wests Tigers. Its quite normal for football clubs to receive grants when they are backed by leagues clubs however without that grant i doubt we were actually in the black.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don't think the fact that either the Tigers or Dragons have amalgamated before should have any bearing on the decision

The fact a business /club is profitable should be important , community acceptance involvement also important , results as well , memberships , FTA viewers /numbers

I think our biggest threat will be where we sit against clubs in our "region" which will include Parra and Penrith

That could be our biggest stumbling block imo

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Best thing going for us is our ability to rate on TV. That’s why, despite being crap onfield, we continue to be given prime time game allocations. We are a valuable asset for broadcasters

 

[Geo]

Best thing going for us is our ability to rate on TV. That’s why, despite being crap onfield, we continue to be given prime time game allocations. We are a valuable asset for broadcasters

It's like a car crash..you know you shouldn't but you slow down and look anyway..

 

[Bones]

I don’t think the fact that either the Tigers or Dragons have amalgamated before should have any bearing on the decision

The fact a business /club is profitable should be important , community acceptance involvement also important , results as well , memberships , FTA viewers /numbers

I think our biggest threat will be where we sit against clubs in our “region” which will include Parra and Penrith

That could be our biggest stumbling block imo

I doubt the NRL want to leave the whole south west of Sydney unattended. If anything I think they would force us to move full time to Campbelltown.

I actually agree the Roosters should be under pressure. They bring bugger all except a couple of wealthy benefactors. Once they go the Roosters could fall over very easily, although it’s more likely they move Perth to the Roosters than the Roosters to Perth.

 

[prattenparkchild]

I have said before that the entire NRL model of clubs / franchises and these franchises being responsible for the juniors and lower grade has become unsustainable in the long term. We already have clubs that cant sustain genuine juniors and lower grade within their catchment but survive quite happily by obtaining talent from other areas and clubs eg Roosters & Storm.

There can be a reasonable argument made to free the NRL clubs / franchises from the responsibility of juniors and lower grades except probably the ISP or whatever iteration reserve grade has become now. Have this area of league development taken over by the NRL itself with an urban arm of the country and regional league admin and development and just have the NRL club / franchises as business entities that buy their squad of XX players (inc reserves) from the open market.

If the NRL moves in that direction it will model the 'successful' Roosters and Storm model and free up the franchise clubs to locate wherever they (either the NRL HQ or the franchise itself) like.

That will totally break the existing crusted on locality / tribal system we have now. Will the fans like it? Who knows, I doubt most of the existing Sydney region fans would be happy, but what of the future fans who are becoming more mobile and less wedded to local 'birth' loyalties.

I'm an mad keen old Magpie bloke, as my moniker implies I grew up near Pratten Park and was taken by my old man to the last games Wests played there before moving to Lidcombe. I loved the Magpies and I love the new club that resulted from the merge of foundation neighbours Wests and Balmain- the Wests Tigers- but that is based on my childhood tribal loyalty- even though I now live in Canberra and am currently posted overseas. I'll always support the team- but what about the future, less tribal generations growing up? If they reduced the Sydney teams to say 6 - with no responsibility for juniors and development- and Wests Tigers werent part of it but located say in Perth- would I support the Sydney teams or WT in Perth? My interest and passion would be a lot less but I'd still support the WT I think.

I would like to see some real criteria from NRL HQ and some thoughts on the problems with junior development and the whole issue of clubs buying talent from outside their development area, Put something out there for people to discuss.

 

[newtiger]

If I was Greenberg I’d be watching my back, same with Beattie both are useless.

 

[prattenparkchild]

There is an agenda that they're following. Where it has come from and who is pushing it is still unknown. Greenberg is an operator not a strategic thinker. Who is the real instigator of this?

 

[newtiger]

We made a profit last year and if we can improve on field, and become more profitable we’ Be safe.
I think that the NRL will keep lifting the bar to make it harder for the Sydney clubs to survive.
That’s why we need to keep growing the club.
One home ground, keep building the junior base out of the Campbelltown region.

 

[diedpretty]

I like that idea - you could incorporate a draft of all players from juniors and CRL so instead of a few clubs hoarding all the best juniors they would be spread around all clubs. Penrith and Parra would scream but it would be a better way of spreading the upcoming talent around.

 

[prattenparkchild]

I'd like to know whether the local NRL club that has junior players in their ranks and catchment area has any first right of counter offer when a rival club from outside appoaches the player and offers contract. How is the existing system set up to reward development of juniors? If nothing it is another example of my view that the existing system is broken.

If it's broken, stop tinkering and properly fix with a new model Inc shared stadiums, players draft, mid season player exchange, salary cap and tpc transparency etc.

 

[innsaneink]

I think the best thing we have going for us is we're about to post a profit..

 

[Harvey]

They are not financially successful, they are propped up by defacto private owners

 

[Telltails]

I think the importance of local junior nurseries to draw from is also a thing of the past. The best juniors sign with the best clubs. The criteria that may have applied originally when we merged may look vastly different today.
My biggest concern is that we are definitely the club that would transiton to Perth the best if that is the path the NRL takes. Greenburgs heavy handied penalty over what seemed to give the club very little advantage suggests he is going to make life difficult for us. Aside from some of the other Sydney clubs who would be happy to see us moved on to ensure their own survival.
We are not going to get any favours we will need more than ever to maintain a healthy income source and ongoing corporate sponsorship and some success on the field wouldn't go astray

 

[gallagher]

We made a profit last year and if we can improve on field, and become more profitable we’ Be safe.
I think that the NRL will keep lifting the bar to make it harder for the Sydney clubs to survive.
That’s why we need to keep growing the club.
One home ground, keep building the junior base out of the Campbelltown region.

I think we'll be right too.

 

[gallagher]

They are not financially successful, they are propped up by defacto private owners

Is that actually correct or more rumour?

 

[Snake]

You have this right juniors mean nothing to the modern day footy club… the best as you said go to the highest payer or the best club . The days of junior development by individual clubs is long gone , these clubs are battling to keep themselves afloat.

 

[newtiger]

Wynnum Manly sounds good as does Perth Sharks.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Here’s the thing. These morons will make the wrong move. Before they rip apart the Sydney clubs think of this - how well did raiders vs Titans rate last weekend? How often do raiders, titans, warriors games get scheduled in prime time? Compare that to roosters vs rabbits game or Tigers vs eels games each year. Sydney rivalries are the life blood of the game
Also - you need to respect your past/roots. Ditch more foundation clubs and the NRL loses its roots. Not smart!
GREENBERG IS A DILL AND IS OUT OF HIS DEPTH. This is all about an egomaniac with a lack of self assurance trying to beat his chest and leave his mark on the game. HE IS FLIPPING USELESS. But he could do irreparable damage.