Tommy Talau

[hobbo1]

I like Tommy .. he’s been a bit sketchy but he’ll come good !

 

[Guest]

Stick to the topic or the thread closes.

 

[jirskyr]

How stupid. A 20 yr old rookie playing out of position in the craziest season in history where he cant see his friends and family has a bad game and people are shocked. Fans of this club dont deserve a good team

That's the hardest part about 2020, trying to figure out if the negatives have been created by or exacerbated by COVID. It can only be more difficult if you have no other experience to fall back on.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Comparing someone to jenko is.......low

 

[cktiger]

Tommy Talau has potential but you are not going to get any better when your forwards do not get over the advantage line nor can you improve when the centre that is inside of you acts like a turnstile in defence. The young bloke has potential it would be a shame if he left us and went to the Storm or raiders and reached his potential because he had better players around him to learn from.

This club has learnt nothing from 2005 onwards.

The forwards not getting over the advantage line don’t make you miss tackles and drop the ball.

defending next to Mbye, who tackles well when he makes contact, but isnt even in the picture often as he is a serial offender for shooting out of the line, would make you doubt yourself in the defensive structure... that chipping away at the confidence of a rookie probably plays into the dropped balls.

That’s just rubbish.

 

[Needaname]

How stupid. A 20 yr old rookie playing out of position in the craziest season in history where he cant see his friends and family has a bad game and people are shocked. Fans of this club dont deserve a good team

That's the hardest part about 2020, trying to figure out if the negatives have been created by or exacerbated by COVID. It can only be more difficult if you have no other experience to fall back on.

It’s a really good point.

It’s why teams that had successful younger squads are doing so well this year.

Don’t ask me for exact numbers, however.

Sharks fielded a team with maybe 10 of their 17 players having played in the jets grand final. I think that was vs Brisbane.

In addition, Jets Played wentworthville in the GF. Now Parra haven’t had to bring too many of their lower graders through however the first grade team trains knowing their are capable players willing and waiting.

The bunnies and raiders, both played in the under 21s flegg final last year.

Considering the above and considering the fact our Flegg / NSW Cup team went through a massive turn over from last year.

Then our first grade 17.
Turnover from the following year alone were;
Matolino
Liddle (mid season)
Farah
Rochow
Fonua
Masters
Matterson
Thompson (early release)
Momoriski
Simpkin
Walters
L Leilua
J Leilua
Doueihi
Musgrove (Reregisterd)
H Grant
Blore (Mid Season
Asu Keopoa (Mid Season)
Hoffman
MacIntrye (upgrade)
Seyfarth

It would be fair to say that from lower grades only McIntrye, Seyfarth and Liddle have played together. (And Tommy)

The remaining that have made our game day 17 that have had a game together prior to start of 2020 are;
Consistent In the 17 in 2020
Mikale
Twal
Aloia
Garner
Nofo
Brooks
Mbye

In and out of the 17 in 2020.
Lawerence
Benji
Chee Kam
Taylor
Eisenhuth
Packer
Reynolds
Clark

Forgot Talau. His part of the turn over group up above with only one game last year in the NRL 17.

 

[MightyMaggy]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!

 

[The-moP]

Fully agree that Tommy Talau is not a winger .. our chances of making the finals now are Buckleys and none .. so why not now move him to his preferred position 5/8 .. !! We then can give Asu Kepaoa and William Kei a shot in the centres/win positions .. even give Matheson Johns a crack. The entire make up of the side is gonna look a whole lot different come kick off next season that's for sure .. so might as well start giving some of the next generation of players a crack now .. give them an opportunity in the top grade now since we are allowed to in this silly COVID-19 season, rather than wait till next season. Madden, Bradley, Cini, Johns, Kei, Kepaoa, Talau, Simpkins, Hoffman, May, Blore are just some of the new young exciting players for the Tigers for the next few years.

 

[Furious1]

How stupid. A 20 yr old rookie playing out of position in the craziest season in history where he cant see his friends and family has a bad game and people are shocked. Fans of this club dont deserve a good team

That's the hardest part about 2020, trying to figure out if the negatives have been created by or exacerbated by COVID. It can only be more difficult if you have no other experience to fall back on.

It’s a really good point.

It’s why teams that had successful younger squads are doing so well this year.

Don’t ask me for exact numbers, however.

Sharks fielded a team with maybe 10 of their 17 players having played in the jets grand final. I think that was vs Brisbane.

In addition, Jets Played wentworthville in the GF. Now Parra haven’t had to bring too many of their lower graders through however the first grade team trains knowing their are capable players willing and waiting.

The bunnies and raiders, both played in the under 21s flegg final last year.

Considering the above and considering the fact our Flegg / NSW Cup team went through a massive turn over from last year.

Then our first grade 17.
Turnover from the following year alone were;
Matolino
Liddle (mid season)
Farah
Rochow
Fonua
Masters
Matterson
Thompson (early release)
Momoriski
Simpkin
Walters
L Leilua
J Leilua
Doueihi
Musgrove (Reregisterd)
H Grant
Blore (Mid Season
Asu Keopoa (Mid Season)
Hoffman
MacIntrye (upgrade)
Seyfarth

It would be fair to say that from lower grades only McIntrye, Seyfarth and Liddle have played together. (And Tommy)

The remaining that have made our game day 17 that have had a game together prior to start of 2020 are;
Consistent In the 17 in 2020
Mikale
Twal
Aloia
Garner
Nofo
Brooks
Mbye

In and out of the 17 in 2020.
Lawerence
Benji
Chee Kam
Taylor
Eisenhuth
Packer
Reynolds
Clark

Forgot Talau. His part of the turn over group up above with only one game last year in the NRL 17.

Outstanding post and i agree wholeheartedly. Someone spoke of the Sharks ability to win with players out and i thought the same thing. They have players to call on who have been successful in lower grades. The 2005 WT premiership team and subsequent teams through until 2011 all had juniors come through who had been successful.

 

[Tiger5150]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!

Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!


Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

+ Moltzen, Woods, Liddle, Koroibete, Suli, Papenhousen, Brown, Farah, Marshall, Fifita...

 

[Tiger5150]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!


Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

+ Moltzen, Woods, Liddle, Koroibete, Suli, Papenhousen, Brown, Farah, Marshall, Fifita...

I didnt include Suli, because he wasnt a success here, same with Brown. Farah & Marshall were pre 2005, Paps never played firsts with us. Agree with Woods, Koro, Fifita, I was never a Moltzen fan but,,,,,......maybe.

 

[Strider]

Talau is like any other 10 odd gamer they are not rough enough yet for first grade. It will come
for this kid. You either want to pay top dollar for established first graders or keep developing our players. People complain about over paying and then complain when a 10 game rookie is not up to speed yet. He’s coming into a poor team it’s not the Panthers or Roosters.


I have no problem with this at all and agree with the logic of it, but PLEASE let it be the end of the ridiculous "Talau is our long term answer at centre/5/8". Seriously he is tentatively hanging onto a first grade spot on the wing, a MILE away from showing he would be a worthwile centre let alone 5/8.

That is true but name a better centre option at the club on the left. My eyes tell me he will be our best junior outside back in a few years. He’s playing light at 90 odd kegs and I believe he put in 10 over the past year. I don’t think he’s physically ready yet he’s a year away. We have no other options and no reserve grade. I’d persist with the kid he has some ticker.

I like the Kepoa kid also he has talent and Kei who has not yet had a crack. Seasons done some of these kids need a crack.

Morovski

 

[TheDaBoss]

Solid Stint for a junior, weeks rest will do him good imo

 

[tony soprano]

Needs to find his position not in the backs.

 

[Tigers_Tale]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!


Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

Add to that , Curtis and Bailey Sironen, Ado Carr, Koriebete, Brooks, Twal, Murdoch -Marsilla, Teo, Woods, Farah, Marshall, and i am sure there is more.

 

[Tiger5150]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!


Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

Add to that , Curtis and Bailey Sironen, Ado Carr, Koriebete, Brooks, Twal, Murdoch -Marsilla, Teo, Woods, Farah, Marshall, and i am sure there is more.

Ado Carr was a sharks junior, Twal parra, Farah & Marshall pre 2005, Woods already mentioned and according to most here Brooks isnt a success...

 

[Tigers_Tale]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!


Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

Add to that , Curtis and Bailey Sironen, Ado Carr, Koriebete, Brooks, Twal, Murdoch -Marsilla, Teo, Woods, Farah, Marshall, and i am sure there is more.


Ado Carr was a sharks junior, Twal parra, Farah & Marshall pre 2005, Woods already mentioned and according to most here Brooks isnt a success...

Ado Carr and Twal made their debuts at the Tigers, and Brooks was Dally M halfback of the year in 2018, and like i said there are others Lui, Papenhousen, Fifita and Masters, and im sure there is more

 

[Tiger5150]

Please all of you, just look at the ONE COMMON factor in all (near enough) the failures this club has had in trying to bring young players through the system to, hopefully, NRL level, since 2005. The common factor in all of these years HAS BEEN THE CLUB! Instead of blaming the young-and-upcoming players for their failure to make it, maybe those in charge of bringing new talent forward ARE FAILING!


Shawn Blore, Sam McIntyre, Simon Dwyer, Chris Lawrence, David Nofoluma, Tim Simona, James TEdesco, Mitchell Moses, Josh Alioia, all wave hello

Add to that , Curtis and Bailey Sironen, Ado Carr, Koriebete, Brooks, Twal, Murdoch -Marsilla, Teo, Woods, Farah, Marshall, and i am sure there is more.


Ado Carr was a sharks junior, Twal parra, Farah & Marshall pre 2005, Woods already mentioned and according to most here Brooks isnt a success...

Ado Carr and Twal made their debuts at the Tigers, and Brooks was Dally M halfback of the year in 2018, and like i said there are others Lui, Papenhousen, Fifita and Masters, and im sure there is more

The point of the original post, to which I responded, was players who have come through the Tigers Junior system post 2005 and been successful here. The original poster claimed there was none, I posted a list of players that have, some have added to it. I agree with your brooks point but Ado Carr, Twal, Benji, Farah, Paps, Masters, Bailey Sironen, dont qualify for the original posters point.