Too Slow

@maxxy86 said:
Looks like Jennings is our Lolihea this season…but I honestly say I don’t really know. Wasn’t an avid rabbits supporter.

here is a montage of all his tries in 2018 https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/10/15/all-of-robert-jennings-tries-from-2018/

Yes he scored a lot but none would you say required great speed or finishing ability..more right place right time to fall over the line in what was an lethal left edge for Souff's in attack in 2018
 
As others said on the signing page, he is no better than what we already have Jennings.

Whats more he looks like a winger, not rounded enough to play centre.
 
Jennings should only be playing on the
wing , he was the leading try scorer last year in that position, he obviously has a great skill set in that area and should be used accordingly.
 
Jennings is a very good player fast over a long distance, excellent finisher and good at bringing the ball out of trouble. He’s solid at centre but a better winger. He’s doing a job at centre and we have depth on the wing. He’s there by necessity unless Momo is ready to take over.
 
Cheers Geo,
Yeah he’s a good finisher and would in my opinion be better used on the wing. Sort of in the mould of ‘ the tank’ in a way. The difference was that Souths likes using there left edge and we probably go to the right edge more. Maybe Marsters changes sides and pair them up.
 
Looking at our spine only our 1 and 7 are running threats. If the 1 is injured that leaves only one running threat.

Teams quickly work it out and shut down the threat. It looked to me as if Brooks was being heavily marked and was trying a bit too hard to make something happen. Get some more threats and the space will gradually open up. I think Reynolds is a must at 6 this week to help evolve our attack.
 
Well actually no that's not quite right, you need to be faster than **everyone** you are chasing or who is chasing you, and then you need to be able to tackle or avoid the tackle when/if you get there, or choose the right pass, or turn and kick chase etc.

For example, last Sunday Meaney scoops up a bad pass and runs off, with 3 in support. Benji and Mbye very easily cover the distance with enough time to effect a tackle, but they are both running with their backs turned, they turn the same way and suddenly Meaney has drawn Mbye and passed to the outside. Benji attempts to affect a tackle but is bumped off, Bulldogs score their first try.

Now is that something to do with speed, or positioning, or judgement, or defensive ability, or all of the above?

In fact I didn't see any try conceded, or any potential try not scored simply because the Tigers players weren't fast enough. Not committed enough certainly; also not fit or aware enough - all of those, but no obvious situation where a JAC-type scores.

On the other hand, there are many situations during a season where "JAC scores that" can be said, which is dandy, because there's only 2 or 3 footballers in the competition in that speed class.

Also, what you've said about "I'd say that X players are faster than Y players" - well frankly that's all guesswork to the extent of being pointless.

There is no way to measure speed of entire backlines across the competition, then you are asking "What kind of speed do you mean? Off the mark, middle distance, long distance, with/without football" - to such an extent as it is meaningless.

Does Will Chambers outpace Marsters and Fonua if he's in the clear? Maybe. Does he also outpace the fullback and any cover defenders? Who can say in advance of any individual play.

Will JAC outrun most footballers in open space? Yes. Will James Roberts. Yes. Will anyone else - hard to say. I've seen Ben Smith run down Benji Marshall, I've seen Simon Mannering outpace Chris Lawrence, I've seen Tui Lolohea mow down Ben Barba like he was in quicksand.

So yes buy the fastest and strongest and best players you can. But specifically are Tigers not scoring because we don't have enough fast players? I'd say that's not our major concern right now, our concern is consistent intensity and application of the coach's plan every single week.

Tigers are currently 4th on table, 4th-best F/A, 3rd-best defence, 8th best attack.
 
A lot of fair points here. We have lacked a genuine speedster since JAC.

But….. I'd rather see the money spent on key positions first.

We seem to have a faster forward pack this year with Garner and Matterson which counts for something.
 
@jirskyr..i love your posts unless of course you pull apart and destroy one of mine like you did there…spot on btw...

I remember Thompson running 80m to score against Souff's last year...must of had a tail wind
 
@Earl said:
@The_Patriot said:
Unfortunately Luke Brooks and Benji Marshall are destroying him. He is not Chris Lawrence or the kind of player to hit a hole after the half does all the razzle dazzle.

Same situation as Latrel Mitchell. The only way you use him is to give him early ball and give it to him often.

Marsters is not getting early ball . When he does get early ball he will beat the first man on almost every occasion.

I take it you didn't watch the game. Benji was giving him early ball all the time.

Marsters also made a fair number of breaks and then he dropped it or played the ball incorrectly.

I think there's a big difference between getting early ball with some room and maybe one or two to beat, and getting early ball and looking up to see a bunch of white shirts all ready for you - which is what he mostly saw! These days it's almost impossible for anyone to trouble a set line.

There at least has to be some lead-up work to create some momentum or the defensive line to be back-peddling or at least not properly set. And we seriously lacked that lead-up work.
 
That is exactly what early ball is. It's passing it to the guy and letting him do his thing. Benji did that heaps last week. It was interesting that you mention this because Greg Alexander said exactly the same thing that I'm stating.
 
Marsters got plenty of early ball and he did a bit with it. You are talking about setting him up. Patriot is stating something completely different.

I agree with Patriot in that you want to give Marsters early ball. He can bust the line and create something. It's just that he was given heaps of early ball on the weekend.
 
@Earl said:
Marsters got plenty of early ball and he did a bit with it. You are talking about setting him up. Patriot is stating something completely different.

I agree with Patriot in that you want to give Marsters early ball. He can bust the line and create something. It’s just that he was given heaps of early ball on the weekend.

I didnt see it.

Benji was way too erratic.

He got some early ball, he got some very late ball as the defence was about to hit him and i also saw Marshall trying to bring him on to the ball and push into a hole running type role.

You saw it differently thats ok. All i do know is that Marsters will play better this week now Reynolds is back.
 
@TIGER said:
How much are willing to lose?
I bet he won’t play a single NFL game

Do you understand the system he is in and how players who dont make the draft can be placed with NFL practice squads?

This year its the AFC East. He could well end up on the Patriots practice squad.

He is not giving that up.
 
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