Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ

@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

It’s listed on WT website as a club option for 2022
 
If Jimmy continues to be serviceable on the wing, it's a much better outcome for our cap. I wouldn't rush to sign DWZ, esepcially if Dogs will not carry freight.

We're no longer a home for stray dogs.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384278) said:
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

It’s listed on WT website as a club option for 2022

Where is that listed - on his official bio on the WT website is this :

"An experienced centre with over 200 games experience, Joseph Leilua joined Wests Tigers ahead of the 2020 season following successful previous stints at the Sydney Roosters, Newcastle Knights and Canberra Raiders. A former Australian Schoolboy and regular in the Samoan national side, Leilua has twice been named the Dally M Centre of the Year (2016 and 2018) and twice played in Grand Finals (2010 and 2019). ***He is signed through at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2022 season."***

I'm not doubting that it is a club option for 2022 - i just can't find it.
 
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

I thought the same as you, but as Avo said next year is a club option. It is listed on the club site, I happened upon it when I was checking all the contracted dates for the 2021 contracts sticky thread.
 
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384280) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384278) said:
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

It’s listed on WT website as a club option for 2022

Where is that listed - on his official bio on the WT website is this :

"An experienced centre with over 200 games experience, Joseph Leilua joined Wests Tigers ahead of the 2020 season following successful previous stints at the Sydney Roosters, Newcastle Knights and Canberra Raiders. A former Australian Schoolboy and regular in the Samoan national side, Leilua has twice been named the Dally M Centre of the Year (2016 and 2018) and twice played in Grand Finals (2010 and 2019). ***He is signed through at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2022 season."***

I'm not doubting that it is a club option for 2022 - i just can't find it.

If you scroll down it will have all the players listed and their contract lengths.

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/11/05/wests-tigers-2021-nrl-squad/
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384282) said:
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384280) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384278) said:
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

It’s listed on WT website as a club option for 2022

Where is that listed - on his official bio on the WT website is this :

"An experienced centre with over 200 games experience, Joseph Leilua joined Wests Tigers ahead of the 2020 season following successful previous stints at the Sydney Roosters, Newcastle Knights and Canberra Raiders. A former Australian Schoolboy and regular in the Samoan national side, Leilua has twice been named the Dally M Centre of the Year (2016 and 2018) and twice played in Grand Finals (2010 and 2019). ***He is signed through at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2022 season."***

I'm not doubting that it is a club option for 2022 - i just can't find it.

If you scroll down it will have all the players listed and their contract lengths.

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/11/05/wests-tigers-2021-nrl-squad/


Ok thanks. Pretty poor form by the club not to mention that in all the official releases and his bio. I know that zero project that keeps a record of all off contract players has him signed to the end of 2022 without an option.
 
How long does the club have to activate the option? Perhaps that's what the club are leveling against if Dogs want to make a move now.
 
@clontarfkid said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384247) said:
DWZ and Mbye are on the approx same $$ over the same term...which is way too much for both of them buts thats the status quo for both clubs unfortunately.All thought they were buying quality fullbacks...
theyre both at best modest NRL players on current form,and next year Hasting one way or another displaces Mbye at 6 leaving him as 14th man whereas DWZ wld definitely get a start at WTs on the wing(or centres)....and who knows, may have upside working under Madge and regain his glory days
Dogs have Naden,but still need a centre(and probably half)
So Im for a straight swap which shld work for everyone concerned!!

I'm not convinced Hastings is better than Mbye.
 
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

Definitely club option for 2022

PLAYER CONTRACT
Tom Amone 2021
Shawn Blore 2021 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2021 2022 2023
Michael Chee Kam 2021
Zac Cini 2021
Adam Doueihi 2021 2022 2023
Jackson Hastings 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2021 2022
Oliver Gildart 2022 2023
Asu Kepaoa 2021 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2021 2022 2023
**Joey Leilua 2021 2022 (CO)**
Luciano Leilua 2021 2022
Jacob Liddle 2021 2022 2023
Jock Madden 2021 2022
Moses Mbye 2021 2022
Thomas Mikaele 2021
Zane Musgrove 2021 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2021 2022 2023
Russell Packer 2021
James Roberts 2021 2022 (CO)
Alex Seyfarth 2021
Jake Simpkin 2021 2022 2023 2024
Tukimihia Simpkins 2021 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2021 2022
James Tamou 2021 2022
Kelma Tuilagi 2022
Alex Twal 2021 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2021 2022 2023
Billy Walters 2021
 
@aj1 said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384286) said:
How long does the club have to activate the option? Perhaps that's what the club are leveling against if Dogs want to make a move now.

The date to take up the option is around now
 
@milky said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384241) said:
Rubbish with the BJ swap...

He isn't even contracted to us next year, DWZ has 2 years to run at the Dogs...How could that even work?

DWZ is a recipe for disaster, Mbye disaster to be precise.

We should be watching the top teams for players they are letting go of to clear cap space (resulting from other players needing salary increases) rather than clean out left overs from the side coming last.

I think you will find the swap is more to do with this years funds as we won't be keeping BJ and either will them long term.
I cannot see how DWZ would be a disaster considering we will only be accepting the deal if we get him for around 300-400k and that is a bargain.
He fits the bill for Mbye where is is overpaid (Not his fault) and everyone wants him gone.. Then we moved him to a position that he is suited to and all of a sudden he is playing great football and people are changing there minds. He is till not worth 850k but if he was on like 400k everyone would be calling for the club to resign him before he hits the market.
We get DWZ on 300-400k and he plays on the wing **without** having to run a team from the back he would be an excellent pickup that puts his body on the line every game and was a rep player only 2 years ago when he played wing..
Everyone needs to get out of there heads that we are not trying to buy him to play FB and we are also not paying 800k. DWZ would be AKA Joe O
 
@cochise said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384288) said:
@diedpretty said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384277) said:
Where does everyone get the idea that BJ is off contract at the end of the year. This was from Wests Tigers in 2020 when he signed.

"Wests Tigers are delighted to confirm the acquisition of Samoan international Joseph Leilua, who has ***agreed to terms for the coming three seasons.***

The three-year deal will see the talented outside back join Wests Tigers effective immediately from the ***start of the 2020 season through to at least the end of the 2022 season."***

I have read reports on here that there was a club option for 2022 but the initial release does not state that.

Definitely club option for 2022

PLAYER CONTRACT
Tom Amone 2021
Shawn Blore 2021 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2021 2022 2023
Michael Chee Kam 2021
Zac Cini 2021
Adam Doueihi 2021 2022 2023
Jackson Hastings 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2021 2022
Oliver Gildart 2022 2023
Asu Kepaoa 2021 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2021 2022 2023
**Joey Leilua 2021 2022 (CO)**
Luciano Leilua 2021 2022
Jacob Liddle 2021 2022 2023
Jock Madden 2021 2022
Moses Mbye 2021 2022
Thomas Mikaele 2021
Zane Musgrove 2021 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2021 2022 2023
Russell Packer 2021
James Roberts 2021 2022 (CO)
Alex Seyfarth 2021
Jake Simpkin 2021 2022 2023 2024
Tukimihia Simpkins 2021 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2021 2022
James Tamou 2021 2022
Kelma Tuilagi 2022
Alex Twal 2021 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2021 2022 2023
Billy Walters 2021


Thanks cochise - Avo also pointed me to where it was.
 
@hsvjones said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384294) said:
@milky said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384241) said:
Rubbish with the BJ swap...

He isn't even contracted to us next year, DWZ has 2 years to run at the Dogs...How could that even work?

DWZ is a recipe for disaster, Mbye disaster to be precise.

We should be watching the top teams for players they are letting go of to clear cap space (resulting from other players needing salary increases) rather than clean out left overs from the side coming last.

I think you will find the swap is more to do with this years funds as we won't be keeping BJ and either will them long term.
I cannot see how DWZ would be a disaster considering we will only be accepting the deal if we get him for around 300-400k and that is a bargain.
He fits the bill for Mbye where is is overpaid (Not his fault) and everyone wants him gone.. Then we moved him to a position that he is suited to and all of a sudden he is playing great football and people are changing there minds. He is till not worth 850k but if he was on like 400k everyone would be calling for the club to resign him before he hits the market.
We get DWZ on 300-400k and he plays on the wing **without** having to run a team from the back he would be an excellent pickup that puts his body on the line every game and was a rep player only 2 years ago when he played wing..
Everyone needs to get out of there heads that we are not trying to buy him to play FB and we are also not paying 800k. DWZ would be AKA Joe O

I agree 100% with your thoughts.....

Should we sign him on $800000 to play wing, of course not.
Should we sign him on $350000 - $400000 to play wing, absolutely.....
 
I almost lost my lunch when I saw there was a swap in the works with Leilua. At first I thought it was in regards Luc. Then I remembered we have his bum of a brother. I’d actually be in favour of it. One of my drawbacks of having DWZ was that he would take up another spot on the roster. If it’s a swap though, for a player whose done very little, I’d be on board.
 
There is an article posted on DT this afternoon that says the swap with Joey L is gaining serious momentium...
Fingers crossed
Does anyone have access to the DT who could post the article.
 
@hsvjones said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384522) said:
There is an article posted on DT this afternoon that says the swap with Joey L is gaining serious momentium...
Fingers crossed
Does anyone have access to the DT who could post the article.

Yeah hopefully someone posts it

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_MRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrl-transfer-news-bryce-cartwright-keen-to-stick-with-parramatta-eels%2Fnews-story%2F6efe0cf4613e68a5567190c18f9cc9a7&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=414-b
 
@hsvjones said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384522) said:
There is an article posted on DT this afternoon that says the swap with Joey L is gaining serious momentium...
Fingers crossed
Does anyone have access to the DT who could post the article.

I can’t post it now but it essentially says if he plays well in the 2nd row it will make him more attractive to the Dogs and hence the deal most likely to go ahead. Hope he bombs.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384529) said:
@hsvjones said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384522) said:
There is an article posted on DT this afternoon that says the swap with Joey L is gaining serious momentium...
Fingers crossed
Does anyone have access to the DT who could post the article.

I can’t post it now but it essentially says if he plays well in the 2nd row it will make him more attractive to the Dogs and hence the deal most likely to go ahead. Hope he bombs.

Hope he kills it and gets MOM in a big win :grimacing: :grimacing:
 
NRL transfer news: Wests Tigers-Bulldogs Joey Leilua, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak player swap

A high-profile mid-season transfer swap between Wests Tigers and Canterbury is gaining serious momentum as Joey Leilua tries to reinvent his career.
Nick Campton

Joey Leilua will move to second row for Western Suburbs this weekend in a positional switch that could possibly open the door for a mid-season transfer to an NRL rival.

The enigmatic centre is under contract until the end of 2022 but has been discussed as a potential makeweight in a player swap for Canterbury fullback Dallin Watene-Zelezniak.

Negotiations between the two clubs are still ongoing and a clearer picture is expected to emerge by next week as Wests Tigers close in on the Kiwi Test skipper, but if Leilua can make a good fist of his move to the back row his versatility could make him a more attractive prospect for the Bulldogs.

After bouncing between first grade and NSW Cup for much of the season as a centre, Leilua will line up at second row for Sunday’s clash with Parramatta, the first time he’s played in the forwards since 2010.

While Leilua has endured an inconsistent season he’s still a dynamic attacking player on his day and his ability to break tackles and offload could be just what the blue and whites need given their attacking struggles so far in 2021.

Leilua has two tries in seven NRL matches this season as well as two try assists, two line breaks and 16 tackle busts.

His form in reserve grade has been stronger with two tries, four try assists and three line breaks from four matches.

The former Raider is a two-time Dally M centre of the year indicated earlier this season he was keen to move to the forwards in an effort to reinvent his career.

“I played my juniors in the back row and would love a return there sometime,” Leilua told The Daily Telegraph’s Dean Ritchie.

“It’s up to my coach where I play and I have found a home in the centres but reckon I could benefit from a change of position at this time of my career.

“I like to get the ball in the hands and keep busy on the field. I like being in the action.

“I handled back row well as a young bloke and reckon I could succeed there again. I’m only 29 so I could adapt back fairly easily.”

Reece Hoffman, a highly-rated prospect who made his NRL debut last season, and Fetalaiga Pauga will be preferred at centre.
 
@cochise said in [Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ](/post/1384287) said:
I’m not convinced Hastings is better than Mbye

He's better value than Mbye and therefore better for the club.
 

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