OFFICIAL UFC & MMA Discussion

[The Fresh Oil]

Lol.. I think GSP wasn't natty

Hot take I’ll give ya that.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

My MMA GOATS are: Fedor, Khabib, and Cro Cop. Fedor and Khabib for sambo, grappling, judo skills, and Cro Cop for his trademark leg kicks, left leg kick = cemetery, right leg kick = hospital.

Schaub knocking out CroCop is still hurts.

 

[Tucker]

Who? Silva maybe but jones is much maligned. Mcg is now a joke but at one time a two div champ. Whatever is happening in your gym has sweet FA to the ufc lol.

Get real. Everyone raves about Jones.
UFC is a joke.
Drug cheats and rigged matchups 👍cool. Stop for a rest to catch your breath? GTFOH!
The Ultimate Fighting Championship was legit when they went no rounds or weight divisions and hardarses tried their luck against other hardarses....as happens in the real world.

 

[Demps]

Get real. Everyone raves about Jones.
UFC is a joke.
Drug cheats and rigged matchups 👍cool. Stop for a rest to catch your breath? GTFOH!
The Ultimate Fighting Championship was legit when they went no rounds or weight divisions and hardarses tried their luck against other hardarses....as happens in the real world.

Dana loves Jones.

They movee an event to another state to accommodate his positive drug tests lol, "picogram traces."

He's a weapon though, albeit a drug using maniac like you said... both PEDs and recreational.

His brothers are in the NFL.
Good genetics.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Get real. Everyone raves about Jones.
UFC is a joke.
Drug cheats and rigged matchups 👍cool. Stop for a rest to catch your breath? GTFOH!
The Ultimate Fighting Championship was legit when they went no rounds or weight divisions and hardarses tried their luck against other hardarses....as happens in the real world.

Problem with the UFC is the fans unfortunately. Vast majority are uneducated (about martial arts)and merely watch for the bloodsport and in the hope of reflected toughness. These fans, vast majority want to see striking, preferably elbows to head or headkicks and the current rules and matchmaking are set up to give the rabid fans what they want and therefore generate the biggest PPV's.

The decision to change to 5min rounds was to prioritise strikers and disadvantage BJJ/grapplers (and appease state authorities) and appease the bloodthirsty masses and increase the PPV$$$. it is actually the opposite motivation of the original UFC.

 

[upthetigers]

The trend towards WWE by the UFC complete with fake fights in the crowd during which trained fighters threw fake WWE forearm jolts is embarrassing.
Just go back to fights based on rankings and give the Kayfabe feuds a miss.

Realistically though they need to find a balance between fight matchups based on rankings and money fights. There is no way they're going to pass up the easy money when there is a good matchup to make. e.g. McTapper vs Nate.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Get real. Everyone raves about Jones.
UFC is a joke.
Drug cheats and rigged matchups 👍cool. Stop for a rest to catch your breath? GTFOH!
The Ultimate Fighting Championship was legit when they went no rounds or weight divisions and hardarses tried their luck against other hardarses....as happens in the real world.

So wait, are you upset it has rounds now? Did you watch any early UFC? Wanna see more sumo vs Muay Thai matches? Maybe a street fighter vs a dude in a gi? Honestly you’ve gone from calling the whole sport a drug fest to now saying it has breathers. If you want unbalanced bar fights go down the cross after midnight with the other bogans.

 

[Tucker]

So wait, are you upset it has rounds now? Did you watch any early UFC? Wanna see more sumo vs Muay Thai matches? Maybe a street fighter vs a dude in a gi? Honestly you’ve gone from calling the whole sport a drug fest to now saying it has breathers. If you want unbalanced bar fights go down the cross after midnight with the other bogans.

The other bogans will only be there if the UFC isn’t on.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Problem with the UFC is the fans unfortunately. Vast majority are uneducated (about martial arts)and merely watch for the bloodsport and in the hope of reflected toughness. These fans, vast majority want to see striking, preferably elbows to head or headkicks and the current rules and matchmaking are set up to give the rabid fans what they want and therefore generate the biggest PPV's.

The decision to change to 5min rounds was to prioritise strikers and disadvantage BJJ/grapplers (and appease state authorities) and appease the bloodthirsty masses and increase the PPV$$$. it is actually the opposite motivation of the original UFC.

But in your educated view they should go back to no weight class, no round limit and no scoring? Wouldn’t uneducated fans want the blood lust from no rules?

with the 5 minutes disadvantage, I can understand kinda your point but the sport evolved to mixed martial arts where striking and grappling are required. Gives us much more rounded athletes imo.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

The other bogans will only be there if the UFC isn’t on.

Ok so you just don’t like mixed martial arts. That’s ok I was just confused with some of your posts. All good.

 

[Tucker]

Ok so you just don’t like mixed martial arts. That’s ok I was just confused with some of your posts. All good.

I have nothing against mixed martial arts as a discipline.
I hate the UFC and laugh at its fans.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

So wait, are you upset it has rounds now? Did you watch any early UFC? Wanna see more sumo vs Muay Thai matches? Maybe a street fighter vs a dude in a gi? Honestly you’ve gone from calling the whole sport a drug fest to now saying it has breathers. If you want unbalanced bar fights go down the cross after midnight with the other bogans.

The dude in the gi invented the UFC.

Seriously mate, do some research into the original purpose of the UFC.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

But in your educated view they should go back to no weight class, no round limit and no scoring?

I dont care what they do, but it would be closer to the original purpose of the UFC and the Gracie Challenges before it. It would be a better showcase for martial arts. Depends what you want.

Wouldn’t uneducated fans want the blood lust from no rules?

There would be less blood under the original rules of the UFC but the uneducated fans would hate it. It would be 80% BJJ & Sambo.

with the 5 minutes disadvantage, I can understand kinda your point but the sport evolved to mixed martial arts where striking and grappling are required. Gives us much more rounded athletes imo.

The 5min rounds were brought in to stop grapplers (BJJ). The 5 minute rounds benefit strikers. More likely to get a "lucky" strike to knock an opponent out than spent the time and energy to plan and build a submission. 5min rounds give us beige athletes, not specialised in anything. most of the current UFC guys are pretty good at striking, kicking and grappling but dont excel in any. Literally the opposite of the original UFC.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

The dude in the gi invented the UFC.

Seriously mate, do some research into the original purpose of the UFC.

lol.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

lol.

The dude in the gi didnt invent the UFC?

 

[The Fresh Oil]

I dont care what they do, but it would be closer to the original purpose of the UFC and the Gracie Challenges before it. It would be a better showcase for martial arts. Depends what you want.


There would be less blood under the original rules of the UFC but the uneducated fans would hate it. It would be 80% BJJ & Sambo.


The 5min rounds were brought in to stop grapplers (BJJ). The 5 minute rounds benefit strikers. More likely to get a "lucky" strike to knock an opponent out than spent the time and energy to plan and build a submission. 5min rounds give us beige athletes, not specialised in anything. most of the current UFC guys are pretty good at striking, kicking and grappling but dont excel in any. Literally the opposite of the original UFC.

Original purpose? Are talking like ufc 10 and less? Like late 90’s?? Are you saying there was no TKO finishes back then and it was all submissions? Dude lol.

The 5 minutes was not specifically for grapplers it was to give legitimacy to mixed martial arts and get the whining gov off their ass. That with weight divisions and judges. Big deal. Again much like the guy that loves your comments but has Nfi, what’s your point? Plenty of BJJ comps to watch. Sambo even. Mixed martial arts is not that, spoiler it’s in its name.

If you just dislike UFC I get that but don’t say it’s beige or none of the fighters on the roster don’t excel at certain arts cause it’s flat out wrong.

 

[Demps]

I love UFC.

Had all the early fights downloaded.
Then watched the first Ultimate fighter and every season from there on out.
Along with every card I can catch.

It has a great time line, the story of how they got to where they are today, is quite interesting.

Fan base is a mixed bag, I know some doctors who love it... I know some tapout shirt meat head bros who love it... all fan bases can have their good and their bad.

Fastest growing sport and fights can go either way, some are wild, some are bland... but I'll always watch it.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

The dude in the gi didnt invent the UFC?

Do you think I mentioned gi accidentally?

I was actually thinking of goodridge /Herrera when talking about one of the most brutal shit you’ll see, he was in a gi.

 

[Tucker]

Original purpose? Are talking like ufc 10 and less? Like late 90’s?? Are you saying there was no TKO finishes back then and it was all submissions? Dude lol.

The 5 minutes was not specifically for grapplers it was to give legitimacy to mixed martial arts and get the whining gov off their ass. That with weight divisions and judges. Big deal. Again much like the guy that loves your comments but has Nfi, what’s your point? Plenty of BJJ comps to watch. Sambo even. Mixed martial arts is not that, spoiler it’s in its name.

If you just dislike UFC I get that but don’t say it’s beige or none of the fighters on the roster don’t excel at certain arts cause it’s flat out wrong.

My god we’ve touched a nerve here.
You like it.
Fine.
Doesn’t change what we think.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

I love UFC.

Had all the early fights downloaded.
Then watched the first Ultimate fighter and every season from there on out.
Along with every card I can catch.

It has a great time line, the story of how they got to where they are today, is quite interesting.

Fan base is a mixed bag, I know some doctors who love it... I know some tapout shirt meat head bros who love it... all fan bases can have their good and their bad.

Fastest growing sport and fights can go either way, some are wild, some are bland... but I'll always watch it.

Perfect! Love it for what it is and be happy it exists. It’s only a recent phenomenon I’ve seen with some fans and dudes at gym who talk about “better in the old days”. lol.

Anyways enough ufc have a good one dudes.