OFFICIAL US election discussion

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Contrary to what you may or may not believe, the world is not going to end, regardless of who wins. That’s probably one of the most disgusting aspects of US politics that whoever loses, sees it as the end times. What I will say though, is that the momentum is with her. He has run perhaps one of the worst campaigns in history, so much so, you can make a case that he’s just totally given up on trying to win. Standing on stage, swaying to music for 40 minutes, waxing lyrical about Arnold Palmer’s junk, and already claiming voter fraud in PA. It’s an unserious campaign by an unserious individual.

Trumps got the dance moves, he can dodge bullets, what can't he do? Haha
 
Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's lost, and he knows it
Well, yes, if you only get your US election updates from mainstream media in Australia or the US, then that's exactly what you would be expected to think. There is little to no balanced coverage on the TV these days, save for a Sky News, and they're equally as biased on the right end of things. The sad thing is, there's generations of people that still think the news and TV shows like 60 Minutes, ACA or The Project are bipartisan. They, objectively, are not.

But, of course, it's possible he may lose.

Early voting trends suggest otherwise.

Don't conflate this as me rooting for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, though he would certainly be the preferable alternative to the mainstream media-backed Democrat machine.

You know, lower taxes, less wars, getting control over their southern border, driving down inflation and bringing manufacturing back to the US, all policy platforms Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is running on.

I'm simply stating what multiple early vote-trackers are suggesting.

Curiously, 'and he knows it' , what, EXACTLY, do you mean by that?
 
Curiously, 'and he knows it' , what, EXACTLY, do you mean by that?
Already talking up voter fraud for one thing. Voter fraud in an election he hasn’t even lost yet. Not to mention his overall demeanour. He looks like a defeated man. Of course he’s also realising that on the off chance he does win, he’ll have the job he’s never wanted. First run was a publicity stunt that backfired. This time, he’s running to stay out of this big house. You don’t think he actually wants the job do you?
 
Something interesting. And mods, I understand this thread has gone off track but this in the realm of mental health, so bare with me. Most Presidents in office age 20 years. Mostly because you are the leader of the free world. The entire weight of the world is on your shoulders. Making life and death decisions that affect hundreds of millions of people. If you have a conscious and care at all, that’s going to affect you. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon came out of office not having aged a day, cos he didn’t give a shit. The last 4 years though, with all his legal woes, he’s aged like milk. Has totally given up on his hair. Looks like road kill that’s been frisbeed onto his head these days. If he loses this week, he’ll be catatonic by the next election at the rate he’s going.
 
Already talking up voter fraud for one thing. Voter fraud in an election he hasn’t even lost yet. Not to mention his overall demeanour. He looks like a defeated man. Of course he’s also realising that on the off chance he does win, he’ll have the job he’s never wanted. First run was a publicity stunt that backfired. This time, he’s running to stay out of this big house. You don’t think he actually wants the job do you?
Yes.

Or do you think he's spent millions of dollars and countless hours campaigning for a job he doesn't want? Now which side is engaging in conspiracy theories?

Also, you do realise that voter fraud in the US is a well-documented and well-accepted part of the US voting system, right? The scale on which it happens is what is often disputed amongst their public.
 
Yes.

Or do you think he's spent millions of dollars and countless hours campaigning for a job he doesn't want? Now which side is engaging in conspiracy theories?
Yes he has. I stated why
Also, you do realise that voter fraud in the US is a well-documented and well-accepted part of the US voting system, right? The scale on which it happens is what is often disputed amongst their public.
Oh dear
 
Yes he has. I stated why

Oh dear

Something interesting. And mods, I understand this thread has gone off track but this in the realm of mental health, so bare with me. Most Presidents in office age 20 years. Mostly because you are the leader of the free world. The entire weight of the world is on your shoulders. Making life and death decisions that affect hundreds of millions of people. If you have a conscious and care at all, that’s going to affect you. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon came out of office not having aged a day, cos he didn’t give a shit. The last 4 years though, with all his legal woes, he’s aged like milk. Has totally given up on his hair. Looks like road kill that’s been frisbeed onto his head these days. If he loses this week, he’ll be catatonic by the next election at the rate he’s going.
Look, I know you generally shoot from the hip without doing adequate research, but it helps if you base your opinions in reality.


Here is a list of 1560 confirmed cases of electoral fraud in US elections, dating back to 1981. These are only individual examples and only confirmed examples.

Read my original statement again. Voter fraud is present in US elections. This isn't disputed.

The scale is disputed.

For the record, I never once mentioned, nor do I believe, that it happens on a scale that can tip an election one way or another.

Media coverage/rhetoric, or suppression of information, can influence an election however.
 
Something interesting. And mods, I understand this thread has gone off track but this in the realm of mental health, so bare with me. Most Presidents in office age 20 years. Mostly because you are the leader of the free world. The entire weight of the world is on your shoulders. Making life and death decisions that affect hundreds of millions of people. If you have a conscious and care at all, that’s going to affect you. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon came out of office not having aged a day, cos he didn’t give a shit. The last 4 years though, with all his legal woes, he’s aged like milk. Has totally given up on his hair. Looks like road kill that’s been frisbeed onto his head these days. If he loses this week, he’ll be catatonic by the next election at the rate he’s going.
Now do Kamala 😀😀😀🌟🌈✨
 
Look, I know you generally shoot from the hip without doing adequate research, but it helps if you base your opinions in reality.


Here is a list of 1560 confirmed cases of electoral fraud in US elections, dating back to 1981. These are only individual examples and only confirmed examples.

Read my original statement again. Voter fraud is present in US elections. This isn't disputed.

The scale is disputed.

For the record, I never once mentioned, nor do I believe, that it happens on a scale that can tip an election one way or another.

Media coverage/rhetoric, or suppression of information, can influence an election however.

Oh dear,the Heritage Foundation are the same group of right wing nutters who have put Project 2025 together.Hardly a middle of the road organisation,it is like quoting Pravda who used to praise the Soviet Union and vilify everyone else
 
Look, I know you generally shoot from the hip without doing adequate research, but it helps if you base your opinions in reality.


Here is a list of 1560 confirmed cases of electoral fraud in US elections, dating back to 1981. These are only individual examples and only confirmed examples.

Read my original statement again. Voter fraud is present in US elections. This isn't disputed.

The scale is disputed.

For the record, I never once mentioned, nor do I believe, that it happens on a scale that can tip an election one way or another.

Media coverage/rhetoric, or suppression of information, can influence an election however.
The Heritage Foundation….Oh dear.
 
Oh dear,the Heritage Foundation are the same group of right wing nutters who have put Project 2025 together.Hardly a middle of the road organisation,it is like quoting Pravda who used to praise the Soviet Union and vilify everyone else
Appeal to authority fallacy.

You and @GNR4LIFE need to learn how arguments work.

Dispute the information itself, not the source of the information. If the information is wrong, I will happily step aside and concede the point here. I have no interest in being incorrect or spreading dogma. If the information is incorrect, it should be easy to refute. I chose this website because it was the first that contained the pure data I was after, not an opinion piece trying to explain-away an issue.

That's like saying that everything on the ABC is incorrect because they are the bedfellows of progressive Greens-based policies. Or that Sky News are always wrong because they solely present right wing perspectives.

This is basic, basic stuff.
 
Appeal to authority fallacy.

You and @GNR4LIFE need to learn how arguments work.

Dispute the information itself, not the source of the information. If the information is wrong, I will happily step aside and concede the point here. I have no interest in being incorrect or spreading dogma. If the information is incorrect, it should be easy to refute. I chose this website because it was the first that contained the pure data I was after, not an opinion piece trying to explain-away an issue.

That's like saying that everything on the ABC is incorrect because they are the bedfellows of progressive Greens-based policies. Or that Sky News are always wrong because they solely present right wing perspectives.

This is basic, basic stuff.
There was 40 cases of fraud brought by the former President in 2020. They were all thrown out.
 
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