V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement

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**Peter V’landys holds talks with streaming giants over NRL content**
The Australian
Brent Read
February 27, 2020

ARL Commission chair Peter V’landys will host club bosses on Friday morning at Rugby League Central with a bad case of jetlag but a much greater understanding of the broadcasting landscape after a rapid-fire trip to the west coast of America, wherehe held talks with broadcast bosses and some of the world’s biggest streaming services.

It is understood V’landys and NRL commercial manager Andrew Abdo travelled to San Francisco and Los Angeles, where they metexecutives from streaming giants Amazon Prime, Facebook and Google.

V’landys has made the broadcasting deal his priority and while the game’s existing partners — the Nine Network and Fox Sports — remain in the box seat, there is also an acknowledgment it would be remiss of the commission not to take a closer look atthe streaming options, some of whom have begun to dabble in sport.

Only this week, Facebook — which already has deals in place to stream Major League Soccer matches, Major League Baseball andWorld Surf League events — announced a partnership with the International Cricket Council.

The biggest streaming player in recent times has arguably been Amazon Prime, which for the past two years has televised theNFL’s Thursday night football.

This year, it broke into the English Premier League market when it bought the rights to several games. Enter rugby league.Or at least that is what V’landys and the commission hope, if not now, then certainly down the track as streaming servicesbecome bigger players in the Australian sporting market.

V’landys’ trip to America signals an escalation in planning for broadcasting negotiations as the commission continues to mapthe way forward. On the trip, V’landys also broke bread with Fox Corp boss Lachlan Murdoch and the meeting could be seenas an indication of the regard he holds for the game’s relationship with Fox Sports, which runs until the end of 2022.

While the existing deal has a further two years to run, there is an acknowledgment that the game needs to start planning nowrather than later. V’landys and NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg have already publicly broached the idea of expanding toa 17-team competition, which would mean introducing a second team in Brisbane as early as 2023.

While no firm decision has been made, the sense is that it is a matter of when not if the announcement is made. The commissionwon’t want for interest. Clubs and consortiums are falling over themselves to become the chosen one, although money will ultimatelydictate whether expansion goes ahead.

“This time last year, I said I was concerned going into the season with our broadcasters at Nine and Fox making sure thatour ratings numbers were really strong, because if I go back to the table with them, the last thing I want to do is get backfrom a position of weakness,” Greenberg said.

“We’ve got some time on our side to understand what (the broadcasting future) looks like from 2023 and beyond. But there’sno doubt that the landscape has shifted significantly since this deal was struck back in 2015-16.”

The broadcasting agreement isn’t the only major issue on the table. V’landys and the commission are yet to strike a new dealwith Greenberg, who has a two-year option as part of his existing multi-million-dollar contract.

Both V’landys and Greenberg have insisted talks are ongoing and positive, yet time is running out if a deal is to be struckbefore the start of the premiership and the longer it takes, the more it fuels suggestions that all is not well between thechair and his chief executive.

There has been talk of tension and V’landys’ decision to head to America without the chief executive will do little to dousespeculation that the game’s powerbrokers are weighing up Greenberg’s future at the helm of what is now a $500m business.

It would border on madness to make a change now given the season is only a matter of weeks away and Greenberg’s cause wouldappear to have been helped by the latest financial figures, which revealed the game registered a $30m profit last season.

As revealed in The Australian recently, that figure was roughly $3m above projections at the start of the year, an indicationthat Greenberg and his executive team have exceeded even their own expectations.

Yet clubs want more details around the financial data and are expected to turn up the heat on the NRL executive at Fridaymorning’s meeting, in the knowledge that the game has consistently returned big profits at the beginning of broadcasting cyclesonly to drop away after that.
 
500m business with 30m profit Is not really good enough
Streaming rights will be worth more than broadcast in the next 2 years

Interesting times
 
Don't trust Greenburg one bit and if Vlandys hasn't sacked him, then I suspect he's as crooked and tainted as Greenburg is.

Scary times.
 
@the_third said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122437) said:
500m business with 30m profit Is not really good enough
Streaming rights will be worth more than broadcast in the next 2 years

Interesting times

You are not wrong there ... Fox sports needs the rights contract moving forward .,,Foxtel will collapse without the NRL. The streaming services are already at there door big time !Like a pack of wolves ....The NRL are in a very desirable place with the new rights deal.
 
Does Youtube live stream sports yet? I watched the steam from the Down to Earth concert (bushfire benefit in Melbourne) the other day, sound and picture was clear , with no buffering either. Not sure how many viewers it can handle, but there were a lot of international viewers (seems like a lot of American's really like Tash Sultana).
If NRL don't want to go there, maybe Wests Tigers can look at an arrangement with them to live stream some of their events (like the Q&As).
 
@Snake said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122470) said:
@the_third said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122437) said:
500m business with 30m profit Is not really good enough
Streaming rights will be worth more than broadcast in the next 2 years

Interesting times

You are not wrong there ... Fox sports needs the rights contract moving forward .,,Foxtel will collapse without the NRL. The streaming services are already at there door big time !Like a pack of wolves ....The NRL are in a very desirable place with the new rights deal.

100% They're in big trouble without the NRL. AFL is covered mostly (if not all?) on free to air, and American sports and the EPL are fast moving toward streaming. Hell you can even watch live NBA on the TAB app now!
 
@JD-Tiger said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122438) said:
Don't trust Greenburg one bit and if Vlandys hasn't sacked him, then I suspect he's as crooked and tainted as Greenburg is.

Scary times.

Interesting that TODDY wasn't on the trip to the US with PVL may add weight to the thread TODDY ON SHAKEY GROUND
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122490) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122438) said:
Don't trust Greenburg one bit and if Vlandys hasn't sacked him, then I suspect he's as crooked and tainted as Greenburg is.

Scary times.

Interesting that TODDY wasn't on the trip to the US with PVL may add weight to the thread TODDY ON SHAKEY GROUND

Be still my beating heart
 
@cktiger said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122443) said:
Give me the money... I’ll guarantee I can make more than 30 million profit on $500 million spend.


Easily.
that's 6% profit margin (less if its pretax)
Pretty poor performance I would have thought with the product they have
 
@the_third said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122437) said:
500m business with 30m profit Is not really good enough
Streaming rights will be worth more than broadcast in the next 2 years

Interesting times

I'm interested in these types of comments. Exactly why is it not good enough? It's seems rather arbitrary to apply an N% profit expectation to any given business of a given size?

Also if I'm not mistaken, profit is inclusive of expenditure also, correct? So if you have high revenues but you have high expenditure, for any reason, then your reported profit is impacted? Obviously the expenditure might be unreasonable, like budget blowouts or high operating costs, or totally reasonable, like reinvestment or acquisitions.

Not having a dig, just wondering if anyone on here actually has the experience, specifically sports-management experience, and expertise to legitimise commentary or criticism of operating profit?
 
While the existing deal has a further two years to run, there is an acknowledgment that the game needs to start planning nowrather than later. V’landys and NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg have already publicly broached the idea of expanding toa 17-team competition, which would mean introducing a second team in Brisbane as early as 2023.


Reading this article got me thinking. If the NRL finally decides to expand, whether it be to 17 or 18 teams, where will the top line talent come from? I can't see teams like the Roosters, Souths or the Broncos losing the players they want to keep, it will be the other, "poorer" teams that lose one or two each, further widening the gap. I think that any expansion needs to reintroduce the draft, which will need the RLPA to sign off on, so there aren't any challenges. The new team/s to get extra picks, just to get them started. That is one of the best things about the NFL: a few good drafting cycles and you can really get going, a la San Fran, who built a great team over a few draft cycles.

(mods: please move to a new/different thread if you like. I don't want to hijack this one, but wanted to talk about the expansion piece)
 
@tiger_scott said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122543) said:
While the existing deal has a further two years to run, there is an acknowledgment that the game needs to start planning nowrather than later. V’landys and NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg have already publicly broached the idea of expanding toa 17-team competition, which would mean introducing a second team in Brisbane as early as 2023.


Reading this article got me thinking. If the NRL finally decides to expand, whether it be to 17 or 18 teams, where will the top line talent come from? I can't see teams like the Roosters, Souths or the Broncos losing the players they want to keep, it will be the other, "poorer" teams that lose one or two each, further widening the gap. I think that any expansion needs to reintroduce the draft, which will need the RLPA to sign off on, so there aren't any challenges. The new team/s to get extra picks, just to get them started. That is one of the best things about the NFL: a few good drafting cycles and you can really get going, a la San Fran, who built a great team over a few draft cycles.

(mods: please move to a new/different thread if you like. I don't want to hijack this one, but wanted to talk about the expansion piece)

Absolutely no draft thanks.
 
@gallagher said in [V’landys priority a new Broadcasting Agreement](/post/1122589) said:
Two new teams would get another game to sell. What's the point of one?

To get guaranteed Brisbane game every week.
 

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