We should have kept Paul Momirovski.

@hobbo1 said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459891) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Yeah him .. he’s useless

While I agree on your assessment it is not like we would have traded without him playing a game since signing. Penrith would have been mad to take on that contract.
 
I'm a Momo fan and was sad to see him go. Smart footy player who defends well and can find the line, and no doubt he would have improved us this year.

I honestly I think we should be aiming higher but if we can't hit that sort of target, I'd happily take him back.
 
@the_patriot said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459892) said:
We made the right call to get Daine Laurie however we also really failed to identify a lack of intelligence and stability in our outside backs.

They let Momo go, they let Thompson go, They let Kane Bradley go.

Brought in JTJ and BJ, combined them with Talau and Nofo and expected good results.

Its an epic recruitment and retention fail and shows up the coach as someone who fails to see the type of player required to rebuild a team that struggles with consistency.

If Madge has a fault, its that he's a softy and sometimes appears over optimistic with his belief in people. Sure I get the pygmalion effect and his desire to not give up on anyone, but I think he needs to be more realistic with his analysis. BJ, is a classic example of him believing and persisting for too long. I dont want to bring up blind freddy and get jumped on, but surely Madge needs to be tougher in that decision making process.??
 
@twentyforty said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459909) said:
@the_patriot said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459892) said:
We made the right call to get Daine Laurie however we also really failed to identify a lack of intelligence and stability in our outside backs.

They let Momo go, they let Thompson go, They let Kane Bradley go.

Brought in JTJ and BJ, combined them with Talau and Nofo and expected good results.

Its an epic recruitment and retention fail and shows up the coach as someone who fails to see the type of player required to rebuild a team that struggles with consistency.

If Madge has a fault, its that he's a softy and sometimes appears over optimistic with his belief in people. Sure I get the pygmalion effect and his desire to not give up on anyone, but I think he needs to be more realistic with his analysis. BJ, is a classic example of him believing and persisting for too long. I dont want to bring up blind freddy and get jumped on, but surely Madge needs to be tougher in that decision making process.??


I agree.

That is his biggest fault and the one that could lose him his job.

We was hired to be a tough guy and make tough decisions. He has not really done that.
 
@hobbo1 said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459891) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Yeah him .. he’s useless

I like this..he's useless so.. you need other Clubs dumber than us to take them..

Thank God for the Dragons - Mbye
 
@twentyforty said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459916) said:
I disagree that this fault we speak of could cost him his job. In fact, it is possible that the opposite is true?

How so?
 
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Took you while to figure that out? 🙂 Great extension that's turning out to be as was recruiting JTJ..
 
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459937) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Took you while to figure that out? 🙂 Great extension that's turning out to be as was recruiting JTJ..

I have no problem with the recruitment of James Roberts and would sign him for next year as well.
 
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459938) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459937) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Took you while to figure that out? 🙂 Great extension that's turning out to be as was recruiting JTJ..

I have no problem with the recruitment of James Roberts and would sign him for next year as well.

And yet you don't rate Momo? Each to their own - one's man's trash player is another man's treasure.
 
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459939) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459938) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459937) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Took you while to figure that out? 🙂 Great extension that's turning out to be as was recruiting JTJ..

I have no problem with the recruitment of James Roberts and would sign him for next year as well.

And yet you don't rate Momo? Each to their own - one's man's trash player is another man's treasure.

Never said I didn't rate Momo, said I wouldn't give up Laurie for him. Momo is a good solid footballer, nothing more, nothing less.
 
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459943) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459939) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459938) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459937) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Took you while to figure that out? 🙂 Great extension that's turning out to be as was recruiting JTJ..

I have no problem with the recruitment of James Roberts and would sign him for next year as well.

And yet you don't rate Momo? Each to their own - one's man's trash player is another man's treasure.

Never said I didn't rate Momo, said I wouldn't give up Laurie for him. Momo is a good solid footballer, nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks for clarifying - my misinterpretation.
 
@gnr4life said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459050) said:
He’s solid. But he’s the kind of player who will look 10 times the player he really is in a strong team.

As slow as a wet week, we have too many players from that mould
 
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459944) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459943) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459939) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459938) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459937) said:
@cochise said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459886) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459859) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459728) said:
@mikey said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459226) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459106) said:
You know how well we are going when we have a momorovski lament thread lol.

So you think a starting centre in the side that is coming second in the comp is not good enough for us?

Not if we want to go somewhere in the next few years. Laurie has been our best player and will be a star in the future. I would take Laurie playing 20 nrl games and getting that experience then keeping momo here. He is slow, has bad hands and does a good thing every 3 games. He would have looked as good as our centre’s looked in the team this year. The love for this player i will never in my life understand. It’s like saying we should take eisenhuth back because he is in the panthers 17 each week. Thanks but no thanks .

Agree to disagree. He's head n shoulders above the centres we have at the moment.
Will agree getting laurie was a good thing but wish we could've traded someone else like Nofo.

The guy we had just signed to a massive 4+ year contract?

Took you while to figure that out? 🙂 Great extension that's turning out to be as was recruiting JTJ..

I have no problem with the recruitment of James Roberts and would sign him for next year as well.

And yet you don't rate Momo? Each to their own - one's man's trash player is another man's treasure.

Never said I didn't rate Momo, said I wouldn't give up Laurie for him. Momo is a good solid footballer, nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks for clarifying - my misinterpretation.

He has played better this year than I expected though.
 
@the_patriot said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459923) said:
@twentyforty said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459916) said:
I disagree that this fault we speak of could cost him his job. In fact, it is possible that the opposite is true?

How so?

Any coach can say words of support to his team, but when those words are given true meaning by his actions, they become more than just words. I think the more the players understand Madge, the more they will want to win for him.
 
@twentyforty said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459762) said:
It’s quite funny really?
Moma was our only player that Storm and Panthers would accept. Hahaha
Sure there were rumours about Talau and Nofa, but the deal could only be done in both cases with Moma.

I guess the club didn't rate him as much as some on here do, otherwise he would have been here?
 
@tonytiger said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459946) said:
@gnr4life said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459050) said:
He’s solid. But he’s the kind of player who will look 10 times the player he really is in a strong team.

As slow as a wet week, we have too many players from that mould

Storm = Justin Olam, Reimas Smith
Penrith= Paul Momorovski, Matt Burton
Manly = Morgan Harper, Brad Parker
Souths= Campbell Graham, Dane Gagai
Parra = Tom opicic, Waqa Blake
They are the centres from the top 5 clubs mate. How many out of that bunch is quicker than him. If they are its a bonus but one thing is certain , they can all tackle. Maybe the penny might drop here one day.
 
@batboy said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459863) said:
@tigerpower said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459821) said:
@twentyforty said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459762) said:
It’s quite funny really?
Moma was our only player that Storm and Panthers would accept. Hahaha
Sure there were rumours about Talau and Nofa, but the deal could only be done in both cases with Moma.

If he was so good why didn’t the storm keep him. They played branko lee in front of him. That says it all.

No they didn't, He got injured and lost his spot to Brenko - Brenko did nothing to lose it and got an Origin gig... Won that also....
Momo is solid, And a hard worker - Very much a Madge style player...
Certainly a better / smarter outside back than the 5-6 we kept over him.

Funnily, Brenko would probably out-perform most of our current centres also...

He played 6 games for the storm. They could have easily kept him as the swap for JAC. But they didn’t and played an average center in front of him. Not saying our guys are any better but I’d give up two momos for Laurie.
 
@tigertuff said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1460142) said:
@tonytiger said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459946) said:
@gnr4life said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459050) said:
He’s solid. But he’s the kind of player who will look 10 times the player he really is in a strong team.

As slow as a wet week, we have too many players from that mould

Storm = **Justin Olam**, Reimas Smith
Penrith= Paul Momorovski, **Matt Burton**
Manly = Morgan Harper, Brad Parker
Souths= Campbell Graham, **Dane Gagai**
Parra = Tom opicic, **Waqa Blake**

Some of these things are not like the other.

IMO Momo is the weakest of all of them. Maybe in the same category as Smith, Park and Opicic. The rest all better and the highlighted names actual good players and MOmo isnt in the same discussion with these guys. If all of those players were available I'd buy Momo ahead of Opacic and maybe Smith
 
@tiger5150 said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1460199) said:
@tigertuff said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1460142) said:
@tonytiger said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459946) said:
@gnr4life said in [We should have kept Paul Momirovski\.](/post/1459050) said:
He’s solid. But he’s the kind of player who will look 10 times the player he really is in a strong team.

As slow as a wet week, we have too many players from that mould

Storm = **Justin Olam**, Reimas Smith
Penrith= Paul Momorovski, **Matt Burton**
Manly = Morgan Harper, Brad Parker
Souths= Campbell Graham, **Dane Gagai**
Parra = Tom opicic, **Waqa Blake**

Some of these things are not like the other.

IMO Momo is the weakest of all of them. Maybe in the same category as Smith, Park and Opicic. The rest all better and the highlighted names actual good players and MOmo isnt in the same discussion with these guys. If all of those players were available I'd buy Momo ahead of Opacic and maybe Smith

He might be the worst in that bunch (in your opinion) but he can tackle. Some people on this forum want to sign Jtj again. Remind me again when he runs out into our centres so i get into the foetal position again.
 
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