Wests Magpies may become extinct

The Brand is Weststigers the future is the Weststigers ..Balmain & Wests are dead RIP there is no other option ..Interest will be abound with the new team no doubt all positive .
 
Stupid article.

Wests Tigers can't merge the State Cup teams as they don't own them. In fact its sorta the other way around. Only Wests and Balmain Football clubs at board level can decide this. The NSWRL is also trying to expand it's competition and the withdrawl of two of it's foundation clubs will be a major setback. A independent commission though might think otherwise.

Wests Tigers can however can limit the resources they provide (if any to Wests) and can decide on the allocation of the Wests Tigers contracted players.

Do I think it should happen? I once thought it was a good idea before the mickey mouse NYC competition was introduced. Financially it makes sense for all concerned but "decreasing the player pool" (Sheens own words) is a negative. Having another tier between NRL and NYC is also important especially with two junior leagues to accommodate. As long as Wests Ashfield are willing to fund Wests then if I had a vote I would vote against the merger at State Cup level.

Let me add that I would support a merged 2nd tier team if it was a over age or U23s national competition.

What do I think will happen? Same thing as a few years ago. One team will get all the benefits and all the Wests Tigers contracted players whilst the other will be sent back to the cow paddock.
 
I'd be in no rush to make any changes unless/until they decide to reinstate a fair dinkum reserve grade competition.
I see no point in having a Wests Tigers State Cup team that plays on a different day at a different venue to the first grade team - i'd still never get to see them play.
And, besides, I want bragging rights when the magpies smash bret in the State Cup semis :wink:
 
As a very long time supporter of the Western Suburbs Magpies I have to agree that enough time has passed since the decision was made to merge with the Balmain Tigers that it is now appropriate to call it a day.

The future is the Wests Tigers. I am sure they will continue to honour the history of the two foundation clubs that formed the Wests Tigers well into the future.

I think our history is in very good hands and perhaps that is the point, it is time to put the names Western Suburbs Magpies and Balmain Tigers into history books.

Long live the Wests Tigers.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
How would the merged entity in the state cup be funded? I am sure this structure has been put together.

Wests Ashfield pays for Western Suburbs and Balmain and Ryde Eastwood pays for B-RE team. Wests Ashfield does not provide any funding to Wests Tigers. The merging of the state cup team would produce cost savings and only one leagues club would have to provide funding. Is this an attempt to get the financial strength of Wests Ashfield directly involved with Wests Tigers or remove Ryde Eastwood from the equation?
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What you mean Ashfield doesn't provide funding to the Wests Tigers? Last time I checked there annual reports all three leagues club provided equal funding to the value of 500k I think (can't remember the exact amount but it was mentioned in the reports). Wests Tigers are nearly self sufficient. Ashfield also fund the State Cup team with Campbelltown funding the junior league. From my understanding Ryde Eastwood Leagues funds the Balmain Ryde-Eastwood state cup side.
 
@Staks said:
Stupid article.

Wests Tigers can't merge the State Cup teams as they don't own them. In fact its sorta the other way around. Only Wests and Balmain Football clubs at board level can decide this. The NSWRL is also trying to expand it's competition and the withdrawl of two of it's foundation clubs will be a major setback. A independent commission though might think otherwise.

Wests Tigers can however can limit the resources they provide (if any to Wests) and can decide on the allocation of the Wests Tigers contracted players.

Do I think it should happen? I once thought it was a good idea before the mickey mouse NYC competition was introduced. Financially it makes sense for all concerned but "decreasing the player pool" (Sheens own words) is a negative. Having another tier between NRL and NYC is also important especially with two junior leagues to accommodate. As long as Wests Ashfield are willing to fund Wests then if I had a vote I would vote against the merger at State Cup level.

What do I think will happen? Same thing as a few years ago. One team will get all the benefits and all the Wests Tigers contracted players whilst the other will be sent back to the cow paddock.
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Staks, I think it is closer to happening than what you think. Dont be surprised if certain Board members on the Wests Leagues club boards and Football club board get the decision over the line.

The motive is one that you would not believe.
 
@Balmain Bug said:
@Staks said:
Stupid article.

Wests Tigers can't merge the State Cup teams as they don't own them. In fact its sorta the other way around. Only Wests and Balmain Football clubs at board level can decide this. The NSWRL is also trying to expand it's competition and the withdrawl of two of it's foundation clubs will be a major setback. A independent commission though might think otherwise.

Wests Tigers can however can limit the resources they provide (if any to Wests) and can decide on the allocation of the Wests Tigers contracted players.

Do I think it should happen? I once thought it was a good idea before the mickey mouse NYC competition was introduced. Financially it makes sense for all concerned but "decreasing the player pool" (Sheens own words) is a negative. Having another tier between NRL and NYC is also important especially with two junior leagues to accommodate. As long as Wests Ashfield are willing to fund Wests then if I had a vote I would vote against the merger at State Cup level.

What do I think will happen? Same thing as a few years ago. One team will get all the benefits and all the Wests Tigers contracted players whilst the other will be sent back to the cow paddock.

Staks, I think it is closer to happening than what you think. Dont be surprised if certain Board members on the Wests Leagues club boards and Football club board get the decision over the line.

The motive is one that you would not believe.
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C'mon Bug….spill the beans.....You know you want too...
 
Now with that fossil Hammond out of the picture, i believe everything can move forward now. Stack the BRET team as a unified WT State Cup feeder, kick the Magpies out of the State Cup and send them off to Bundy Cup and they can be the feeder for BRET. This is the way it should always have been.
 
Magpies forver!!!! Relax boys unless the WSDRLFC announce they are pulling the pin then be confident that they will be fielding a team next year in the NSW cup
 
wests ryde eastwood tigers… hmm has a nice ring to it.
I get the practicalities of having one state cup team but I'll probably stop watching if they merge
 
@crouching_tiger said:
Now with that fossil Hammond out of the picture, i believe everything can move forward now. Stack the BRET team as a unified WT State Cup feeder, kick the Magpies out of the State Cup and send them off to Bundy Cup and they can be the feeder for BRET. This is the way it should always have been.
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Just wondering why most of the biased stuff comes from the Balmain side of the JV.

Do a lot of the Balmain supporters really believe the Wests Tigers belong to them.

Maybe,the Wests side can give them their juniors and money and clubs and they can call the Wests Tigers Balmain again. :imp:

Lets not forget that Wests and Balmain own and control the WT so its not about moving on.We are the shareholders and we want it our way.

As a Western Suburbs Magpies supporter of the Wests Tigers I feel the Joint Venture is fair and equal but not properly expressed in the media and by some Balmain fans.

I'm sick of the media comming up with crap like black and gold when our colours also include white etc.
 
@crouching_tiger said:
Now with that fossil Hammond out of the picture, i believe everything can move forward now. Stack the BRET team as a unified WT State Cup feeder, kick the Magpies out of the State Cup and send them off to Bundy Cup and they can be the feeder for BRET. This is the way it should always have been.
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It should be the other way around considering Wests actually have the funds to pay for a NSW Cup side unlike Balmain who only survives because of Ryde Eastwood Leagues. :laughing:

P.s. You shouldnt be calling anyone a fossil! :slight_smile:
 
The bait is obviously past it's prime yet it still draws a succesful long line trawl

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Another reason why the Balmain half of the marriage would be more in favour of the 2 NSW Cup teams merging is eventually Ryde Eastwood Leagues will stop funding the Balmain NSW Cup side and when that happens there will be no Balmain side in NSW Cup. All the players in the Wests Tigers squad that don't make the firstgrade team would go to Western Suburbs Magpies. When Balmain get more money in the future they would probably want their own team back in the NSW Cup. You know it makes sense.
 
@alien said:
Another reason why the Balmain half of the marriage would be more in favour of the 2 NSW Cup teams merging is eventually Ryde Eastwood Leagues will stop funding the Balmain NSW Cup side and when that happens there will be no Balmain side in NSW Cup. All the players in the Wests Tigers squad that don't make the firstgrade team would go to Western Suburbs Magpies. When Balmain get more money in the future they would probably want their own team back in the NSW Cup. You know it makes sense.
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One of the reason i wish they would just all merge is that i'm sick of the supporters of both sides always bringing every discussion back to wests v balmain.

i'm sick of it, and i'm not a young person that has only followed Wests Tigers, i for one would just like to move on and follow the Wests Tigers.
 
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