Wests Tigers CEO Grant Mayer's message to Macarthur fans

[Tim Sheens]

All 4 games against teams that will not have any travelling supporters,bar maybe canberra,makes it tough,but they need to embrace the area before the Roosters,Dogs,Eels or Panthers do.

The real question is whether it is really rugby league heartland. Surely if it is, as we are always told, then it should be just about house full every game, regardless of the opposition.
Wests and then the joint venture have been there for a long time now. Seems strange to me that we still struggle for a good crowd when there are only four games.

 

[system]

All 4 games against teams that will not have any travelling supporters,bar maybe canberra,makes it tough,but they need to embrace the area before the Roosters,Dogs,Eels or Panthers do.

The real question is whether it is really rugby league heartland. Surely if it is, as we are always told, then it should be just about house full every game, regardless of the opposition.
Wests and then the joint venture have been there for a long time now. Seems strange to me that we still struggle for a good crowd when there are only four games.

pretty much sums it up. Wasting our time out there!

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[happy_tiger]

There is an article related to this on the nrl.com page in relations on whether Smith should force the Tigers to play more games at Campbelltown

If the NRL wants to stump up the guaranteed cash then go for it.

If not it will never happen.

The NRL did stump up the guaranteed cash ( not to move to Campbelltown )

No doubt they will want to see some return and if they think that's the right way to go they will try and get some push with the new board won't they

 

[innsaneink]

There is an article related to this on the nrl.com page in relations on whether Smith should force the Tigers to play more games at Campbelltown

If the NRL wants to stump up the guaranteed cash then go for it.

If not it will never happen.

**The NRL did stump up the guaranteed cash ( not to move to Campbelltown )**

No doubt they will want to see some return and if they think that's the right way to go they will try and get some push with the new board won't they

Where,when?

 

[Black_n_White]

I think he is referring to the bail out cash we accepted recently… I agree with Happy, we are in their pocket now.

 

[happy_tiger]

There is an article related to this on the nrl.com page in relations on whether Smith should force the Tigers to play more games at Campbelltown

If the NRL wants to stump up the guaranteed cash then go for it.

If not it will never happen.

**The NRL did stump up the guaranteed cash ( not to move to Campbelltown )**

No doubt they will want to see some return and if they think that's the right way to go they will try and get some push with the new board won't they

Where,when?

We've accepted the bail out package offered by the NRL haven't we ??

When I asked this I'm sure someone said (Smeg ??) we had

 

[wtfl1981]

Stuff like this should be simply expected as well as commended.

The South west should be locked in by WT in all areas and they need to have a genuine presence. Everyone knows its the 2nd biggest junior league area in Australia.

The NRL should be ensuring WT have a strong hold with the fan base. Humphries promised an academy a few years ago - time for WT to deliver.

27 years after moving Wests to Campbelltown, i am sure the NRL and WT can deliver more to the area than just 4 reluctant home games a year.

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[wtfl1981]

The NRL loan allows for 4 independent seats on WT board and provides WT with extra capital $$$$$

The independent board members (once appointed) can influence WT on certain things (like taking more of a Campbelltown focus) it does not mean take the money or else go somewhere.

I understand The WT board will have 1 x magpies FC, 2 x Ashfield, 3 x Balmain FC + 4 x nrl appointed board men.

The money provided by NRL to WT to affectively "influence" them is really a loan that will need to paid back to the NRL once WT starts becoming self sufficient.

As part of clarifying this new arrangement, Balmain FC has been requested to update all parties on its financial situation by end of January 2014.

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[innsaneink]

Meh thats all well and good but at the end of the day the people there need to get off their fat arses and get to games….calling out unappealing oppositions doesnt wash...theres 16 teams in the comp, we have to play em all like it or norl...they all have great players....almost 30 years and still 7000 - 9000 crowds...too may are 'conditional' fans imo

 

[happy_tiger]

The NRL loan allows for 4 independent seats on WT board and provides WT with extra capital $$$$$

The independent board members (once appointed) can influence WT on certain things (like taking more of a Campbelltown focus) it does not mean take the money or else go somewhere.

I understand The WT board will have 1 x magpies FC, 2 x Ashfield, 3 x Balmain FC + 4 x nrl appointed board men.

The money provided by NRL to WT to affectively "influence" them is really a loan that will need to paid back to the NRL once WT starts becoming self sufficient.

As part of clarifying this new arrangement, Balmain FC has been requested to update all parties on its financial situation by end of January 2014.

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My point exactly , if the NRL wants the Tigers to play more games at Campbelltown all they do is connect with the Magpies and Ashfield and they have 7 votes

The same would go if they decided to want more games at Leichardt

Whatever the NRL wants the Tigers to do , they will be doing they just need one side or the other to side with them

The Wests and Balmain side wouldn't probably agree on the fact the sky is blue let alone agree on one side or the other pov's in regards to the respective needs of the club

 

[Snake]

Stuff like this should be simply expected as well as commended.

The South west should be locked in by WT in all areas and they need to have a genuine presence. Everyone knows its the 2nd biggest junior league area in Australia.

The NRL should be ensuring WT have a strong hold with the fan base. Humphreys promised an academy a few years ago - time for WT to deliver.

27 years after moving Wests to Campbelltown, i am sure the NRL and WT can deliver more to the area than just 4 reluctant home games a year.

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Having attended the first game Wests played after moving from Lidcombe and seeing the destruction of my club by Management,club,council and so called growth area fans my answer to above is CAN the same people that are still involved and others including growth area fans DELIVER what is required … I doubt this very much. The question was raised at the pathetic membership numbers well as long as this divisive action is taken by factions with agendas continue the club is bound to fail. The decision has to be made to play out of one stadium and probable ANZ those that don,t like it move on but the creation of one club has been done ..one thinks at 3,500 members this is not a hard decision . The people of MacArthur had there opportunity ...the Tigers can go there at there peril!

 

[wtfl1981]

Meh thats all well and good but at the end of the day the people there need to get off their fat arses and get to games….calling out unappealing oppositions doesnt wash...theres 16 teams in the comp, we have to play em all like it or norl...they all have great players....almost 30 years and still 7000 - 9000 crowds...too may are 'conditional' fans imo

Make it a fortress, mix up the opposition teams.. Souths and Dragons have never played WT at Campbelltown!

There have been crowds of 12k to 16k over the years.. WT fans can get back to that if the formula is right. Less cold monday nights. If we have good oppositions and good scheduling then there is no excuse for fans to come out. They also need to identify with a local team.

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[GNR4LIFE]

Fact is over the yrs, the overall attendance at C-town hasn't been much different to LO. And people still seem to have this mentality that attendances at each ground are made up of supporters from the side of which ground we're playing at, which again is BS.

 

[Black_n_White]

Im not going to pick a side here, but how about the the "Fans" turn up to the games where ever they are.

The club have signed a deal which allows ANZ to pick the meaty games, and throw the bones to our traditional grounds, effectively denying us of any home ground advantage at all in some cases. Further add to that the diabolical performances we have put in on the park, again a direct result of poor management decisions.

I bet both my man-berries, that if we could string together a half decent season, the attendance would improve drastically, neverlone playing a team that could draw more than half a dozen of its own fans…

Its a bit rough to crap on Campelltown, they arent the only fans capable of attending the park. Having all 4 games there this season playing interstate teams is a bit of a kick in the teeth, and makes it really tough. Pull a 9k crowd, with 90% odd being our own fans isnt that bad (obviously not good enough), a travelling opposition like say Bulldogs, Soufs, Dragons even fair-weather Roosters at present, and they convert that 8k odd of our own supporters into an acceptable attendance.

It isnt really a scenario set to see the gates prosper. Lets hope the team can get it together and give people a reason to turn up again.

 

[innsaneink]

Meh thats all well and good but at the end of the day the people there need to get off their fat arses and get to games….calling out unappealing oppositions doesnt wash...theres 16 teams in the comp, we have to play em all like it or norl...they all have great players....almost 30 years and still 7000 - 9000 crowds...too may are 'conditional' fans imo

Make it a fortress, mix up the opposition teams.. Souths and Dragons have never played WT at Campbelltown!

There have been crowds of 12k to 16k over the years.. WT fans can get back to that if the formula is right. Less cold monday nights. If we have good oppositions and good scheduling then there is no excuse for fans to come out. They also need to identify with a local team.

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Where does the money we lose that we get from the stadium deals that weve relied on for the last 8 years come from?

You know why we dont play those teams at our suburban grounds

Monday nights are as cold as Friday & saturday nights, theyre as much a fact of life as playing Melb Raiders and NQ…all which every other team has to do. Scheduling is out of the clubs control

 

[happy_tiger]

Meh thats all well and good but at the end of the day the people there need to get off their fat arses and get to games….calling out unappealing oppositions doesnt wash...theres 16 teams in the comp, we have to play em all like it or norl...they all have great players....almost 30 years and still 7000 - 9000 crowds...too may are 'conditional' fans imo

Make it a fortress, mix up the opposition teams.. Souths and Dragons have never played WT at Campbelltown!

There have been crowds of 12k to 16k over the years.. WT fans can get back to that if the formula is right. Less cold monday nights. If we have good oppositions and good scheduling then there is no excuse for fans to come out. They also need to identify with a local team.

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Where does the money we lose that we get from the stadium deals that weve relied on for the last 8 years come from?

You know why we dont play those teams at our suburban grounds

Monday nights are as cold as Friday & saturday nights, theyre as much a fact of life as playing Melb Raiders and NQ…all which every other team has to do. Scheduling is out of the clubs control

Easiest way for the Tigers to start drawing crowds of 12-16000 again is to start winning football games and to sort out the off field crap which has dogged us since day 1

 

[Black_n_White]

To put it out there before the season starts last season our 3 lowest attendance home games were Storm (5288), Cowboys (7125) then Raiders (7833).

This year we are setting Campo up to fail, giving them all 4 interstate teams. This is entirely on the clubs head, we cannot pick who we play, but definitely can choose where we play.

 

[system]

The NRL loan allows for 4 independent seats on WT board and provides WT with extra capital $$$$$

The independent board members (once appointed) can influence WT on certain things (like taking more of a Campbelltown focus) it does not mean take the money or else go somewhere.

I understand The WT board will have 1 x magpies FC, 2 x Ashfield, 3 x Balmain FC + 4 x nrl appointed board men.

The money provided by NRL to WT to affectively "influence" them is really a loan that will need to paid back to the NRL once WT starts becoming self sufficient.

As part of clarifying this new arrangement, Balmain FC has been requested to update all parties on its financial situation by end of January 2014.

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My point exactly , if the NRL wants the Tigers to play more games at Campbelltown all they do is connect with the Magpies and Ashfield and they have 7 votes

The same would go if they decided to want more games at Leichhardt

Whatever the NRL wants the Tigers to do , they will be doing they just need one side or the other to side with them

The Wests and Balmain side wouldn't probably agree on the fact the sky is blue let alone agree on one side or the other pov's in regards to the respective needs of the club

10 year deal at ANZ locked in remember.

Much needed in terms of guaranteed revenue stream

 

[happy_tiger]

The NRL loan allows for 4 independent seats on WT board and provides WT with extra capital $$$$$

The independent board members (once appointed) can influence WT on certain things (like taking more of a Campbelltown focus) it does not mean take the money or else go somewhere.

I understand The WT board will have 1 x magpies FC, 2 x Ashfield, 3 x Balmain FC + 4 x nrl appointed board men.

The money provided by NRL to WT to affectively "influence" them is really a loan that will need to paid back to the NRL once WT starts becoming self sufficient.

As part of clarifying this new arrangement, Balmain FC has been requested to update all parties on its financial situation by end of January 2014.

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My point exactly , if the NRL wants the Tigers to play more games at Campbelltown all they do is connect with the Magpies and Ashfield and they have 7 votes

The same would go if they decided to want more games at Leichhardt

Whatever the NRL wants the Tigers to do , they will be doing they just need one side or the other to side with them

The Wests and Balmain side wouldn't probably agree on the fact the sky is blue let alone agree on one side or the other pov's in regards to the respective needs of the club

10 year deal at ANZ locked in remember.

Much needed in terms of guaranteed revenue stream

And that's why I didn't bring up ANZ Smeg

I think they will be happy with the returns generated by that deal , but if one side or the other thought they could screw over the other with the support of the INDEPENDANT :roll NRL board members they would in a hear beat

The NRL want to see us solvent and standing on own two feet and will probably do that without a thought of either side of the JV they upset

 

[innsaneink]

Jim Marsden denies suggestions he wants to be a Wests Tigers director

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January 24, 2014
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Former Wests Magpies chairman Jim Marsden says he took NRL chief David Smith and other heavy hitters on a bus tour of the MacArthur region to highlight Sydney's south-west as a league goldmine, not to position himself to become a director on a restructured Wests Tigers board.

Marsden, who recently ended his seemingly controversial role as an adviser to the Greater Western Sydney AFL team - considering he is a league man - runs a law firm in MacArthur. He is a former deputy chairman of Wests Tigers and there was speculation his tour of the area with the likes of Smith, Wests Tigers chief executive Grant Mayer, businessmen and politicians on Thursday could've been to push his claim to become one of the three independent directors the NRL is tipped to demand are included on the club's board.

Marsden said the suggestion he wanted to become a Wests Tigers director was incorrect. ''No, no … I've been there,'' he said. ''I have a very busy legal practice and I also spend a bit more time with my family these days.''

He insisted the tour was simply to show off MacArthur as rugby league territory because state government figures predict the region is set for a population explosion of about 100,000-120,000 people during the next eight years.
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''Anybody can get that information, but what I wanted to do was … living out here I know talent that is coming out of the ground,'' he said. ''After a meeting with Grant Mayer late last year I suggested we invite David Smith to take a tour, David accepted that invitation and I invited along other people including local business people and politicians. I don't have any high expectations for anything to come out of the meeting. It was my intention to put forward to the NRL that he [Smith] is fully aware and accepts what's happening, so he's fully aware when decisions are made about the positioning of NRL entities - including clubs - they take it into account.

''And David seemed to acknowledge the area was an emerging area, a rapidly emerging area.''

The tour was staged just as the NRL is likely to demand three independent directors sit on the Wests Tigers board after Balmain has not contributed towards the joint venture's costs over the past two years because of its well-documented financial problems.

Wests Ashfield has supported the NRL franchise after Balmain sold its leagues club when the former state government unveiled plans - since shelved - for a metro-style train system. A proposed residential and business development on the site in Rozelle failed to be approved by the appropriate bodies and consequently starved the Tigers of a significant cash flow.

It is understood Balmain has until the end of January to answer questions posed to it by the NRL about its financial situation. If it failed to provide satisfactory responses, Fairfax Media understands the NRL, which wants the situation remedied before the season kicks off, will call for the appointment of three independent directors.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/jim-marsden-denies-suggestions-he-wants-to-be-a-wests-tigers-director-20140123-31bs6.html#ixzz2rPkxYPwT