Wests Tigers Coaches

[hank37w]

No idea.
The whole drug thing has obviously tarnished his career but like I said, the nrl has okayed him to coach.
That's good enough for me.

Love this week's avatar.

Can we sign those guys minus the clown in the middle?

 

[hank37w]

Average players make the best coaches

Change my mind.
🔥🤩

The first part of that has been achieved.

 

[weststigerman]

Madge extended Brooks, he deserved to be sacked, he hitched his sorry arse to Brooks and lost out

I think that’s a bit harsh because he had to make a call on Brooks about a month after coming into the job.

Cleary also re-signed him from memory over Moses.

 

[hank37w]

Even worse, if only one said yes. Not sure if there is a shitty brother but that's the one Pascoe would land.

If only one of the Walker Brothers came we'd still have 2 heads in the top coaching role, they are Queenslanders.

 

[weststigerman]

I’m

Unfortunately you aren’t going to attract those players with a John Morris type coach. He‘d need 2 or 3 seasons of consistent finals before he can even make a dent in the player market imo.

Do you think there are any other coaches on the market that would?

 

[hank37w]

Maybe we just go out and sign Satan.
Responsible for less deaths than flanno apparently.

Signing Satan would only create more problems in the halves selection area, I mean what are we going to do with 3 sixes.

 

[Papacito]

Tragic,

I read on this forum Sheens engaged with the parents of players in the SW and no doubt the IW. A pro-active approach in terms of retaining our best talent to prevent other clubs signing the best of our youngsters. Our future depends on these young players remaining in our system.

A concentration of effort in the SW where this has been reflected in a win by our Wests HM team which has a plethora of talent. Now hopefully we will see these young men wanting to represent WTs which represents the areas from which they are drawn.

We read yesterday Sheens and Co met with journalists for lunch no doubt in part to improve the club's image in the press and perception among the public. Again a strategically pro-active solution to an on-going issue.

Sheens cut through the crap of the last 3.5 years under Maguire. While you and others on this forum were lapping up the "Madge has a plan" or "trust in Madge" slogans and planting kisses on his arse cheeks (mind you the scramble for position with Batmans Parents must have been tense) Sheens wanted him gone last year according to a post the other night. Sheens delivered as I knew he would.

This is one of the most accurate posts in 200+ pages.

Sheens is no dummy. The bloke has been around for 40+ years and knows the game inside out from the junior level up. We haven't had anyone like him steering things at the club since... ever?

I'm not at all surprised he was out meeting parents. Interestingly enough, Phil Gould has been doing this since he joined the Dogs. You only need to look as far as the ladder to know that the top clubs in 2022 are the ones that develop their own talent.

No doubt Sheens saw that Madge was likely to just plod along like he has been. Madge was a good motivator and perhaps even popular with players, but hasn't developed any talent since he has been here.

Even though I have a soft spot for Madge and the blame can't entirely be laid at his feet, Sheens is experienced enough to have most likely made the right call.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Do you think there are any other coaches on the market that would?

None that are available to us.

 

[Cobarcats]

I’m

Unfortunately you aren’t going to attract those players with a John Morris type coach. He‘d need 2 or 3 seasons of consistent finals before he can even make a dent in the player market imo.

That's obvious isn't it.

 

[Cobarcats]

Do you think there are any other coaches on the market that would?

Maybe Flannigan or Wolfe. How long is a piece of string.
I can't see us attracting players with Morris until we start seeing an influx of talent from pathways and there is a good vibe around the place...but geez that could take 3+years.
What ever happens, I don't want us to be salary cap handicapped again.

 

[WT2K]

Maybe Flannigan or Wolfe. How long is a piece of string.
I can't see us attracting players with Morris until we start seeing an influx of talent from pathways and there is a good vibe around the place...but geez that could take 3+years.
What ever happens, I don't want us to be salary cap handicapped again.

I think you and many others will be surprised (myself included) about decent players joining under Morris.

If the whispers are true, 3 players have indicated they'll like to join WT if Morris takes the coaching position. Yes, these players are currently at the sharks.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Madge would of been hired from the sell I am finally going to turn this club into the tough mini Melbourne you've always wanted to be.

Club admin " yes 2014 premiership winning Kiwi coach come over and implement what your saying"

3 and half years later it simply never eventuated.

I'm not blaming all on madge by reports hartigan was not the right mix too.

But you cannot say madge was not given enough control he hired his two besties and was given enough autonomy to coach. Again failed.

Madge damaged our identity further and the coaching was not nrl standard.

Much prefer the direction the club is going now involving legends into coaching first grade and developing more skills into first grade squad.

Madge was on a road to no where with us

That's all valid criticism regarding Madge. It did never eventuate, he made a rod for his back and by the end, the squad was his and he had to own it. The only thing I had issue with in regard to his sacking was that they were not prepared to do it last year, they panicked and pulled the trigger because Canterbury and the Warriors iced their coaches and now they are scrambling to find his replacement. They've given the players carte blanche to play like shit and be without accountability for the rest of the year due to "instability." If they were asking the question in the last off-season, they had their answer and should have acted then.

However, I don't know where that comes into play with signing a grossly underqualified coach. Yeah he might be at Penrith, but he coached NYC 5 years ago. Hasn't coached State Cup, nor in England. It is akin to handing your tools to a first year apprentice chippy six months in and saying "build this house, I know you can do it, because you worked with your dad's/uncle's successful building company, and you built a cool Lego house when you were 12 half a decade ago."

 

[twentyforty]

Wouldn’t give CC another sniff at the job personally, prima donna

I want Maguire back. 👍

 

[Cobarcats]

I think you and many others will be surprised (myself included) about decent players joining under Morris.

If the whispers are true, 3 players have indicated they'll like to join WT if Morris takes the coaching position. Yes, these players are currently at the sharks.

Not not saying he can't, read my history, I've had the "in morris we trust" banner up for ages.
If he gets the gig and brings some quality players with him then I'll be one happy hombre.
I see other peoples argument though and only time will tell 🤞

 

[haberfield_tiger]

Tragic,

I read on this forum Sheens engaged with the parents of players in the SW and no doubt the IW. A pro-active approach in terms of retaining our best talent to prevent other clubs signing the best of our youngsters. Our future depends on these young players remaining in our system.

A concentration of effort in the SW where this has been reflected in a win by our Wests HM team which has a plethora of talent. Now hopefully we will see these young men wanting to represent WTs which represents the areas from which they are drawn.

We read yesterday Sheens and Co met with journalists for lunch no doubt in part to improve the club's image in the press and perception among the public. Again a strategically pro-active solution to an on-going issue.

Sheens cut through the crap of the last 3.5 years under Maguire. While you and others on this forum were lapping up the "Madge has a plan" or "trust in Madge" slogans and planting kisses on his arse cheeks (mind you the scramble for position with Batmans Parents must have been tense) Sheens wanted him gone last year according to a post the other night. Sheens delivered as I knew he would.

Well said mate👍

 

[earl]

Sheens wanted him gone last year according to a post the other night. Sheens delivered as I knew he would.

I think only the gullible would believe that Sheens didn't perform this hatchet job on a coach who has left us in a good position and took over when we were an abject mess.

The question is why did he punt Madge. My concern is that all he cares about is having a scapegoat and then getting more time.

My experience as a manager is that a common theme when you get a new job is to perform the following tasks no matter the situation:-

1. Blame the previous manager/administration for being incompetent.
2. Give yourself time to turn things around.

That is Sheens play in a nutshell.

In my experience it's also consistently BS.

 

[earl]

Yeah, so what should a club do after 11 years of failure, chance their arm on someone who they don't even know if they have it at the lower levels to start with.

That's a very Wests Tigers move...

This only makes sense if it is all a stupid game which it is.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think only the gullible would believe that Sheens didn't perform this hatchet job on a coach who has left us in a good position and took over when we were an abject mess.

The question is why did he punt Madge. My concern is that all he cares about is having a scapegoat and then getting more time.

My experience as a manager is that a common theme when you get a new job is to perform the following tasks no matter the situation:-

1. Blame the previous manager/administration for being incompetent.
2. Give yourself time to turn things around.

That is Sheens play in a nutshell.

In my experience it's also consistently BS.

It was pretty damning that all the old boys were in the coaches box Noddy’s first game. I hadn’t even seen Sheens at a game all season when Madge was coaching.

 

[851]

I think that’s a bit harsh because he had to make a call on Brooks about a month after coming into the job.

Cleary also re-signed him from memory over Moses.

Brooks deal wasn't even running out when Madge extended it, he had nearly 2 years to go, so it didn't have to be done so quick or at all. As for Moses, Cleary didn't sign Brooks over Moses, he pulled Moses contract to sign Teddy, Moses got the poos and wanted out. Thee big 3 all left, so Brooks was the last man standing and got a contract

 

[earl]

Madge would of been hired from the sell I am finally going to turn this club into the tough mini Melbourne you've always wanted to be.

Club admin " yes 2014 premiership winning Kiwi coach come over and implement what your saying"

3 and half years later it simply never eventuated.

I'm not blaming all on madge by reports hartigan was not the right mix too.

But you cannot say madge was not given enough control he hired his two besties and was given enough autonomy to coach. Again failed.

Madge damaged our identity further and the coaching was not nrl standard.

Much prefer the direction the club is going now involving legends into coaching first grade and developing more skills into first grade squad.

Madge was on a road to no where with us

These are fair criticisms.