Wests Tigers demand compensation to ward off 'cheque-book' r

[jirskyr]

Got a feeling if he re-signs he'll do his knee again down the line, and if signs elsewhere he'll never have another knee problem again.

What absurd pessimism, you must be a real treat in the final 10 minutes of a tight game. What you've said can never be proven as a true outcome.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Got a feeling if he re-signs he'll do his knee again down the line, and if signs elsewhere he'll never have another knee problem again.

What absurd pessimism, you must be a real treat in the final 10 minutes of a tight game. What you've said can never be proven as a true outcome.

Of course it can. If we re-sign him and he does his knee again, what i said would prove correct would it not?

 

[innsaneink]

Offload Blair and Lawrence to the Sharks, save 200k (we pay everything but 100k on both players) for the next 2 years. That's 66k more for Nofoaluma, Sironen and Tedesco per year which can be the difference. Let Koroibete walk.

Are you serious?
These type posts do my head in

 

[innsaneink]

The timing of this is irresponsible from Mayer IF we are still in with a chance of retain ing him, causing unnecessary worry among fans…

Part of me is hoping he is lowering expectations intentionally as a way of increasing a good news story in the unlikely event Teddy does re-sign

 

[Tim Sheens]

I don't think the exposure will have much effect either way as far as retaining James goes.

The only way to try and force some change to the salary cap regarding recognition of junior development (and the associated costs in doing so) is to get it out in the public eye. I have no problem with Mayer speaking out on the matter, as the issue needs to be aired to get more recognition and gain impetus for change.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

It really is a pointless statement by Mayer. The NRL knows clubs like Wests, Canberra, St. George-Illawarra, Newcastle, Penrith and Brisbane produce more than enough juniors for themselves. In fact, they RELY on these clubs to produce excess juniors and then enforce the salary cap to spread the talent.

I remember Gallop stating when asked why won't they remove the salary cap that clubs with huge talent pools would dominate the competition.

 

[simonthetiger]

I like the idea…which is what footy is about.....which region is the best at footy...money has destroyed this idea...but a cap for locals would do a lot to redress this....bring it on I say and who cares about the roosters??

 

[underdog]

It really is a pointless statement by Mayer. The NRL knows clubs like Wests, Canberra, St. George-Illawarra, Newcastle, Penrith and Brisbane produce more than enough juniors for themselves. In fact, they RELY on these clubs to produce excess juniors and then enforce the salary cap to spread the talent.

**I remember Gallop stating when asked why won't they remove the salary cap that clubs with huge talent pools would dominate the competition.[**/quote]

Who would have thought that clubs cultivating their own talent would be successful?

Colour me surprised - that's like my boss saying "Now, Underdog, you are SMASHING your budget this month, how about we give some of the commissions you have earned to the lazy salespeople as well, just to make it fair, we don't want him feeling all sad because you are earning a shit-ton of money now, do we?"

Don't even get me started on Salary Cap rorts…. :deadhorse:

 

[2041]

Got a feeling if he re-signs he'll do his knee again down the line, and if signs elsewhere he'll never have another knee problem again.

What absurd pessimism, you must be a real treat in the final 10 minutes of a tight game. What you've said can never be proven as a true outcome.

Of course it can. If we re-sign him and he does his knee again, what i said would prove correct would it not?

No it wouldn't, because you'd never be able to prove that the same injury wouldn't have happened if he had been playing elsewhere.

 

[tigersrule4life]

Can we all just relax we have the cap space we just have to wait it will be done. Plus how cant we pay players salary cap do u mean the 3rd party agreement and btw don't all the teams have a salary cap that the nrl pays them. Anyways we do have the cash its only a matter of time until we confirm it.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I'm glad someone has broken the ranks of the NRL and put this into mainstream media in such a blunt format… Clubs who do produce Juniors should be compensated period!

I have heard there will be amendments to the structure of the Salary Cap from next year so hopefully this is something which will help those clubs who spend the money at grass-roots levels?

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Can we all just relax we have the cap space we just have to wait it will be done. Plus how cant we pay players salary cap do u mean the 3rd party agreement and btw don't all the teams have a salary cap that the nrl pays them. Anyways we do have the cash its only a matter of time until we confirm it.

lol… I hear similar comments like this a lot lately.

Anyone thinking the NRL's Injection of Money is for us to buy players from other clubs is delusional... It is to allow us to pay our aged and costed debts from the past few years and over the next couple.

The real challenge with the Salary Cap is the 3rd Party Arrangements...

 

[Knuckles]

I like the idea…which is what footy is about.....which region is the best at footy...money has destroyed this idea...but a cap for locals would do a lot to redress this....bring it on I say and who cares about the roosters??

Agree STT …...... I have no issue with Mayer's view on this ........ its nothing new ........ it has been raised before ........... but this sort of frustration goes with the territory at Wests Tigers ...... at Manly or Easts its not an issue as they just raid other club' juniors.

 

[happy_tiger]

Wouldn't the idea to become a better business and smarter business

To win the game you have to play the game

We aren't playing the game , we just want the rules changed to help us because we can't help ourselves

 

[Guest]

Got a feeling if he re-signs he'll do his knee again down the line, and if signs elsewhere he'll never have another knee problem again.

You're really starting to sound like Golden.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Got a feeling if he re-signs he'll do his knee again down the line, and if signs elsewhere he'll never have another knee problem again.

You're really starting to sound like Golden.

Yeah that was a very Golden-esque thing to say wasn't it. Least i didn't say it in his bitter, disdainful tone.

Seriously though, i'm just trying to detach from him and assume the worst so i won't be disappointed. That way if he signs i'll be elated.

 

[Guest]

Got a feeling if he re-signs he'll do his knee again down the line, and if signs elsewhere he'll never have another knee problem again.

You're really starting to sound like Golden.

Yeah that was a very Golden-esque thing to say wasn't it. Least i didn't say it in his bitter, disdainful tone.

Seriously though, i'm just trying to detach from him and assume the worst so i won't be disappointed. That way if he signs i'll be elated.

Snap out of and don't worry so much. Despite the rumours floating around I am confident we'll keep most of our juniors.

 

[tiger-stripes]

Mayer's point is simply that the NRL should have a training compensation scheme similar to what the round ball code have. If someone buys one of your juniors you get x dollars for it. Might be 5% of their contract fee, a set amount etc. That money wouldn't give us a bigger salary cap but would into club operating budgets - and would that help a club like us, or the raiders etc.

It's a legitimate business point, not a whinge. If the club is getting no value out of developing juniors, why would you continue to fund junior competitions etc. you'd just do what the roosters etc do and save your time and money and just buy from the market. If every club took that approach the NRL standard would drop hence why it's an issue they need to consider.

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[sunshine_coast_tiger]

Mayer's point is simply that the NRL should have a training compensation scheme similar to what the round ball code have. If someone buys one of your juniors you get x dollars for it. Might be 5% of their contract fee, a set amount etc. That money wouldn't give us a bigger salary cap but would into club operating budgets - and would that help a club like us, or the raiders etc.

It's a legitimate business point, not a whinge. If the club is getting no value out of developing juniors, why would you continue to fund junior competitions etc. you'd just do what the roosters etc do and save your time and money and just buy from the market. If every club took that approach the NRL standard would drop hence why it's an issue they need to consider.

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The NRL is almost unique in world sport where there is a salary cap and clubs support their own junior areas. Most other sports with a salary cap have the juniors supported by other bodies eg US college system for NBA and NFL. They then have a draft to spread the talent.

I think if the NRL continue the same way they have to bring in penalties for clubs poaching other clubs elite junior talent. Each NRL club should be able to nominate 5 players a year under 22 as their elite junior players. If another club poach one of those players it should count as double under their salary cap. for example the dogs paid $350k for the young Cronulla #9 well that should count as $700k under their cap to discourage teams that develop elite junior talent losing them.

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[alex]

Just like there's exceptions for marquee players, long service players etc, there should be compensation for juniors too. One of the reasons I love getting to games early is to watch and identify talent in the U20s, and then see their progression into first grade. I remember seeing guys like Rob Lui, Simon Dwyer, Andrew Fifita, James Tedesco and David Nofoaluma all killing it in the NYC and thinking how well they'd do in first grade.