Wests Tigers keen to take Matt Moylan off Cronulla’s books

[coivtny]

@gallagher I blame Pascoe myself. Players don't want to come because Pascoe is our CEO.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

@Newtown
He would be released to solve salary cap problems they have signed Ramien but can't register contract until they find space under their cap

 

[JD Tiger]

@coivtny If players don't want to come here, and I don't know that they don't, but if, then maybe it's about how we don't make the finals and are not seen as a competitive team. This is what we're trying to change obviously, but maybe you're saying this is Pascoe's fault? Maybe it is. He's certainly contributed to the current situation. Improving some, but not fixed it.

 

[Strider]

@coivtny If players don't want to come here, and I don't know that they don't, but if, then maybe it's about how we don't make the finals and are not seen as a competitive team. This is what we're trying to change obviously, but maybe you're saying this is Pascoe's fault? Maybe it is. He's certainly contributed to the current situation. Improving some, but not fixed it.

I think it's not making finals but also the fact any exciting player we have had recently leaves pretty quick. I'd probably be wondering why the stars seem to always leave.

 

[coivtny]

@TigerTiger Apologies but I was having a little bit of fun with Gallagher who is not a fan of Pascoe. I really don't think players give a damn who the CEO is.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

 

[TheDaBoss]

@TigerTiger Apologies but I was having a little bit of fun with Gallagher who is not a fan of Pascoe. I really don't think players give a damn who the CEO is.

There r a lot of factors players have to consider when joining a club, e.g. family, money etc


so i dont think personal biased opinon of a club matters


for a example, david fifita, he goes to his mum for everything including contracts, he wanted to represent tonga but his mum recommended he play for aus cause it would benifit him more, so he did that

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

There's no evidence whatsoever that there is that perception. You don't know why he rebuffed us. It could be because he likes it at the Sharks, he wants to honour his contract, it could be a range of things.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

There's no evidence whatsoever that there is that perception. You don't know why he rebuffed us. It could be because he likes it at the Sharks, he wants to honour his contract, it could be a range of things.

If he moves to another club before season starts can we assume it’s partly because of our club and our coach?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

There's no evidence whatsoever that there is that perception. You don't know why he rebuffed us. It could be because he likes it at the Sharks, he wants to honour his contract, it could be a range of things.

If he moves to another club before season starts can we assume it’s partly because of our club and our coach?

Im a bit over this victim mentality of how bad we are. I said a few days ago, you'd think its a DV relationship the way some of you carry on.

 

[The_Patriot]

So if we are working on something with the Eels. Which is the actual story here not this other rubbish then what could that be?

 

[avocadoontoast]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

There's no evidence whatsoever that there is that perception. You don't know why he rebuffed us. It could be because he likes it at the Sharks, he wants to honour his contract, it could be a range of things.

If he moves to another club before season starts can we assume it’s partly because of our club and our coach?

Im a bit over this victim mentality of how bad we are. I said a few days ago, you'd think its a DV relationship the way some of you carry on.

I think even the most positive Wests Tigers supporter would agree we have an issue with recruitment and retention. Just because you’re a bit over it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

 

[avocadoontoast]

So if we are working on something with the Eels. Which is the actual story here not this other rubbish then what could that be?

Possibly bringing Michael Jennings across to have an all Jennings left side?

 

[jirskyr]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

There are, at minimum, 480 NRL players every season (16 clubs x Top 30), plus another few hundred going around in reserves and juniors. Plus perhaps 10s of players form ESL.

How many players ON RECORD quoted as not wanting to go to Tigers? I think it's zero, but if not, close to zero. Then how many players MAYBE reported as not wanting to go to Tigers, for any reason at all?

Then of all the players who "don't want to play for Tigers", how many of those actually have something against the club itself, rather than some personal issue like geography or club loyalty?

Then of all those players, how many don't want to play for any recent low-finals-success club, i.e. not just Tigers but Titans, Dragons, Dogs etc.

It's a number you can't even properly estimate, let alone get concerned about it. I get you are saying "if there is a perception... it must be addressed", sure. If Tigers HQ is about to collapse because of termites, that also needs to be addressed. If there is salmonella in the kitchen salad, that should be addressed too. Of the million potential issues for which we have insufficient knowledge or data, yes they should be addressed if they exist.

Canberra Raiders were linked with a large number of potential signings the past 3-4 years, many of whom reportedly turned the Raiders down, then Raiders made the latest GF. So even if some players don't want to join you, it doesn't really mean anything in the context of having a least half a thousand potential players to choose from.

 

[Newtown]

@gallagher I blame Pascoe myself. Players don't want to come because Pascoe is our CEO.

Maybe Moylan wants to finish his contract at Cronulla especially if he lives near there.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

There's no evidence whatsoever that there is that perception. You don't know why he rebuffed us. It could be because he likes it at the Sharks, he wants to honour his contract, it could be a range of things.

If he moves to another club before season starts can we assume it’s partly because of our club and our coach?

Im a bit over this victim mentality of how bad we are. I said a few days ago, you'd think its a DV relationship the way some of you carry on.

Who cares what you’re over? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Read my posts again - you’ll see I highlighted IF. I don’t know, you don’t know, but there have been a number of comments stating that players won’t come to us. So IF that’s true it needs investigating. Can’t see any link to a victim mentality. More a link to an analysis of qualitative data.

 

[Tiger5150]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

How can Moylan come here if he is under contract until end of 2021?

That’s an aside issue. What I’m saying is IF there is a perception that we are not a good club to join we have to ask why? We are more competitive than half the NRL clubs so IF the perception is there it must be more than onfield performance

There's no evidence whatsoever that there is that perception. You don't know why he rebuffed us. It could be because he likes it at the Sharks, he wants to honour his contract, it could be a range of things.

If he moves to another club before season starts can we assume it’s partly because of our club and our coach?

I would suggest that anyone and everyone who has an agenda will construct a narrative that fits their agenda regardless.

 

[barra]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

Anyone know who 'his manager' is?

 

[Tigerlily]

Good news!

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/23/merrin-gives-up-nrl-return-amid-player-market-stalemate/

Wests Tigers were linked to Cronulla playmaker Matt Moylan on Tuesday as a possible circuit breaker, a move that would allow the Sharks to ease their salary cap woes and precipitate Ryan Matterson's release.

Matterson has met with Parramatta with negotiations progressing positively between the two parties, however, the Tigers are determined not to grant the disgruntled forward a release unless they get something from the development.

It's understood a Tigers official made contact with Moylan last week to gauge his interest in a move to Concord, with an eye to replacing Benji Marshall in the halves when the club legend eventually retires.

Moylan is contracted to Cronulla until the end of 2021, with both he and his manager rebuffing the Tigers approach.

If the few posts above are accurate I don’t see this as good news. I accept that it may be media rubbish but there seems to be a steady retort from players saying they do not want to come to the Tigers. If there is a perception amongst players that we are a no go zone, it must be addressed. We must change to alter the perception. It definitely is not good if no one wants to come here.

Anyone know who 'his manager' is?

It was Allen Gainey when he had all that drama with Penrith.

 

[The_Patriot]

So if we are working on something with the Eels. Which is the actual story here not this other rubbish then what could that be?

Possibly bringing Michael Jennings across to have an all Jennings left side?

Oh god help us lol