Gary_Bakerloo
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@Fraze23 said:
Outside of getting paid to play at ANZ, SFS etc…...$55,000 for two games is a competitive fee. Most other suburban grounds are over $30,000\. Don't forget, there is no need to hire lights etc.
Wests Tigers reviews games at Campelltown
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Outside of getting paid to play at ANZ, SFS etc…...$55,000 for two games is a competitive fee. Most other suburban grounds are over $30,000\. Don't forget, there is no need to hire lights etc.
I remember this little bit of information from the Q&A session with Grant Mayer earlier this year.
**What costs are involved in Wests Tigers playing games at Campbelltown Sports Stadium and Leichhardt Oval and what is their future?**
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To give away specific figures would be reckless. It’s fair to say though that the venues cost the Club anywhere between $50-70k to run on a game-by-game basis subject to the size of the crowd etc.
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At the moment, when you’re playing games at smaller venues and the crowds don’t show up, it’s very easy to lose money. We need to be smart about how we do this going forward.
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The State Government and the NRL have made it very clear they’re looking at rationalizing stadia. We’re a very big part of that conversation.
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Obviously Campbelltown and Leichhardt are important to the Club. The number of games we play at these stadiums over the next few years is a discussion point, but the mix of three venues is likely to stay constant over the next few years.
I also remember the following tweet from Mayer in regards to crowds and profitability at Leichhardt Oval
12000 plus at leichhardt means a solid return. I'm smiling with 15k plus
**What costs are involved in Wests Tigers playing games at Campbelltown Sports Stadium and Leichhardt Oval and what is their future?**
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To give away specific figures would be reckless. It’s fair to say though that the venues cost the Club anywhere between $50-70k to run on a game-by-game basis subject to the size of the crowd etc.
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At the moment, when you’re playing games at smaller venues and the crowds don’t show up, it’s very easy to lose money. We need to be smart about how we do this going forward.
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The State Government and the NRL have made it very clear they’re looking at rationalizing stadia. We’re a very big part of that conversation.
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Obviously Campbelltown and Leichhardt are important to the Club. The number of games we play at these stadiums over the next few years is a discussion point, but the mix of three venues is likely to stay constant over the next few years.
I also remember the following tweet from Mayer in regards to crowds and profitability at Leichhardt Oval
12000 plus at leichhardt means a solid return. I'm smiling with 15k plus
@Ed Reschs said:
That is correct. The great Messiah Mayer was supposed to fix all these problems but it looks like nothing has changed at least Humphreys had the decency to return phone calls and explain the situation.
Wests Tigers management number one priority is paying the players then of course paying themselves.
Its unfortunate that people have to go public to get paid but that's the situation they are put in by Mayer.
hammertime
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@Irvine said:
Firstly, Mayer has been in the job for not even a year.
Secondly, and more importantly, no one is forced to go public. There are plenty of other ways to do it privately. In fact, it's pretty god damn dumb of Paul Lake since negative press will only further deteriorate the Tigers ability to repay or bring more business to both the area and Wests.
It's obvious they have cash flow issues. Why didn't Paul take it to private arbitration or something else? Because he is just a self-obsessed bureaucrat wanting his name in the paper.
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system
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We were in financial dire straits no doubt.
This was before the agreement was made in relation to NRL funding I believe. As such once this funding became available (I am assuming it has) these debts would have been cleared.
Not a fan of this playing out in the papers but no putting that back in the box now
This was before the agreement was made in relation to NRL funding I believe. As such once this funding became available (I am assuming it has) these debts would have been cleared.
Not a fan of this playing out in the papers but no putting that back in the box now
happy_tiger
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@smeghead said:
Did we definitely accept the NRL offer ??
Gary_Bakerloo
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How much sponsorship comes from the Campbelltown area? I am aware of one large chunk.
Fraze23
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If a full time move to ANZ was on the cards, I wonder if the opportunity would be available for us to set up base there and start training from Homebush. It has been well documented that we have some of the worst training facilities in the competition and to some extent our high injury tolls and lengthy recovery periods can be attributed to this.
Times have changed and so has the game, we need to change with it.
Times have changed and so has the game, we need to change with it.
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If a full time move to ANZ was on the cards, I wonder if the opportunity would be available for us to set up base there and start training from Homebush. It has been well documented that we have some of the worst training facilities in the competition and to some extent our high injury tolls and lengthy recovery periods can be attributed to this.
Times have changed and so has the game, we need to change with it.
This is true but what about the fact it's a high growth area? Who gets to swoop on all of the juniors that we've put years into? It's concerning. And I'm a former Balmain fan. We need to keep both CSS & LO
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Times have changed and so has the game, we need to change with it.
This is true but what about the fact it's a high growth area? Who gets to swoop on all of the juniors that we've put years into? It's concerning. And I'm a former Balmain fan. We need to keep both CSS & LO
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Coastie_Tiger
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Move them all to Anz if that's what keeps the club financially viable, and in regards to training at Anz I thought the dogs trained at belmore and souths at redfern? In saying that I used to do some fitness work at the aquatic centre and have seen some of the dogs players roaming around near the show ground.
Just to clarify - is this Wests Board of which Paul Lake a part of have anything to do with the main WT board or is it separate?
Some fireworks to come I'm sure. If not from either side of this then the Magpie fans who always whinge about bias.
And ffs wish people would stop acting ignorant about the clubs financial state especially in public e.g. this guy and Triguboff. Pretty well known we are cash strapped, no need to whine about not getting told about it and acting as if you'd do something it if you knew.
Some fireworks to come I'm sure. If not from either side of this then the Magpie fans who always whinge about bias.
And ffs wish people would stop acting ignorant about the clubs financial state especially in public e.g. this guy and Triguboff. Pretty well known we are cash strapped, no need to whine about not getting told about it and acting as if you'd do something it if you knew.
Facts boys…
- WT are obliged to play same number of games at LO and CSS. If one goes they both go.
- WT are financially struggling. They need to fix this. Suburban grounds are unique to the WT brand (traditional ground of the foundation clubs). Campbelltown is a great facility that is perfect for NRL. Council charge $25000 for NRL game days and $2500 for NSW cup only days.
- Funding is not guaranteed long term from SFS and ANZ. Those arrangements could change over time with smaller attendances not covering costs.
- Does WT want to become another Sydney team that has a neutral home ground like Bulldogs, Souths and parra?
- strategically, WT should build a genuine presence in Macarthur area and aim for a 6 anz and 6 campbelltown arrangement once LO expires for NRL standard.
- paul lake is on wests campbelltown leagues board. Not WT or Wests Magpies FC
- crowds at LO and CSS average out about the same and are often set back by tv schedules (i.e monday nights)
- what is the point of the JV if traditions are phased out for the sake of poor $& management?
This is the time that WT need to get their act together before 2014 kick off..
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- WT are obliged to play same number of games at LO and CSS. If one goes they both go.
- WT are financially struggling. They need to fix this. Suburban grounds are unique to the WT brand (traditional ground of the foundation clubs). Campbelltown is a great facility that is perfect for NRL. Council charge $25000 for NRL game days and $2500 for NSW cup only days.
- Funding is not guaranteed long term from SFS and ANZ. Those arrangements could change over time with smaller attendances not covering costs.
- Does WT want to become another Sydney team that has a neutral home ground like Bulldogs, Souths and parra?
- strategically, WT should build a genuine presence in Macarthur area and aim for a 6 anz and 6 campbelltown arrangement once LO expires for NRL standard.
- paul lake is on wests campbelltown leagues board. Not WT or Wests Magpies FC
- crowds at LO and CSS average out about the same and are often set back by tv schedules (i.e monday nights)
- what is the point of the JV if traditions are phased out for the sake of poor $& management?
This is the time that WT need to get their act together before 2014 kick off..
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innsaneink
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@Sabre said:
Thats the bottom line isnt it.
They can try and run a club, and keep sections of the fan base & the junior leagues happy by playing at the traditional grounds, but theyre at the mercy of;
1) Weather
2) Poor form/injurys/team losing
3) Bad scheduling from broadcasters
…theres no guarantee of income and profit, imo its highly unlikely
Or they can move to a stadium that guarantees so much per game but while risking disenfrachising members fans and juniors...all while having a 15 year old outdated constitution to follow that has held us back for 15 years
The clubs aware of the state govts ideas on suburban grounds, Saints Illawarra are the next to take games to the big stadiums....this 10 year deal we have with ANZ was likely a masterstroke as we got in before Saints and probably got a better deal than if theyd already had them as tenants too
TIGERS
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I'm so tired of this. Its hard to support your local team when its clear they don't give a crap about you, the fans, or the area. Worse than that they're actually annoyed by the locals. We're just not a club of the people anymore. We're some kind of mutant plaything for second rate, out of work executive officers and pompus wannabe Board Members who know zip about anything. We sell out our jersey until its a bogan billboard but still we have no money to pay out a Coach, or pay fees on our grounds! jeebus.
What is WT without Ctown. Without your Hodgos, Skandos, Gibbs' and Fultons? What is it without that old westie in his golstar magpies jersey he bought 20 years ago standing on the hill swearing at the ref with 4 cans of Draught in two hands. If you can't enjoy a game at CS as much as at LO then you don't know what your doing. I'm not saying they're the same, I love both.. because they are proper places to watch rugby league. Not some god awful cavern like ANZ.
What is it if you can't get wrecked at Wests or CC's or the Club hotel before/after a game?
Maybe its kinda handy for a few of the battlers out there that 3 weeks in a season you dont have to spend 3 and a half hours getting you and your x amount kids to a game. No-one seems to understand that any more. No-one cares about that any more.
I'm so tired of this. Its hard to support your local team when its clear they don't give a crap about you, the fans, or the area. Worse than that they're actually annoyed by the locals. We're just not a club of the people anymore. We're some kind of mutant plaything for second rate, out of work executive officers and pompus wannabe Board Members who know zip about anything. We sell out our jersey until its a bogan billboard but still we have no money to pay out a Coach, or pay fees on our grounds! jeebus.
What is WT without Ctown. Without your Hodgos, Skandos, Gibbs' and Fultons? What is it without that old westie in his golstar magpies jersey he bought 20 years ago standing on the hill swearing at the ref with 4 cans of Draught in two hands. If you can't enjoy a game at CS as much as at LO then you don't know what your doing. I'm not saying they're the same, I love both.. because they are proper places to watch rugby league. Not some god awful cavern like ANZ.
What is it if you can't get wrecked at Wests or CC's or the Club hotel before/after a game?
Maybe its kinda handy for a few of the battlers out there that 3 weeks in a season you dont have to spend 3 and a half hours getting you and your x amount kids to a game. No-one seems to understand that any more. No-one cares about that any more.
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I fear it is simply the reality of the modern game.
Had we followed up our success from our premiership year then who knows if we would have made a go of it better.
What I do know is that a move I applauded (sending an extra game back to LO& CSS) and loved actually damaged the club quite a bit financially
Had we followed up our success from our premiership year then who knows if we would have made a go of it better.
What I do know is that a move I applauded (sending an extra game back to LO& CSS) and loved actually damaged the club quite a bit financially