Wests Tigers Sack Jason Taylor - OFFICIAL..

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I wish Sironen and Blocker would vanish from the scene. They are constant baggers of the club and should know better. If only they had the class of Sterlo.

They have as much right to have an opinion, and voice it ,as we do
Actually they have much more of a right to do that than we do here ( and a first hand knowledge of the club too)
I'm not sure how many of us here played first grade for the club, or parent clubs.
But I'd think not many .
But we think we know better

When they publicly voice their invariably negative opinions of the club as they are wont to do it is damaging to the club. Having an opinion is one thing, voicing it is another and voicing it very publicly to a wide audience is yet another. These guys have personal agendas and axes to grind, well Sirro does at least as is readily apparent from what he said.
 
I don't mind what Sirro did. He didn't like Taylor and is honest about it.
Elias on the other just peddles lies. He's a snake.
 
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Everything is great in hindsight.
Forget JT, the club has nobody left to blame for the rest of the season.
JT won't have the wooden spoon against his record with just 3 rounds coached out of 26 rounds.
The board is next to come crashing down. They exposed themselves by this debacle.

I was reading that Marina Go was at a function and introduced herself to Laurie Daley and asked who he was.
Haha haha. She is so out of depth.

That was actually mentioned on NRL 360 last night. Benny Elias was the most vocal but that's not unusual for Benny :unamused:

It's in a slothfield piece as well. They love a regurgitate.

Rothfield imo made it up on the spot much like Kent pulled "Cleary already agreed to terms" outta his arse on the spot.
The BS on that show is so evident
 
Jason Taylor has been sacked as Wests Tigers coach and this time Robbie Farah can't be blamed

Andrew Webster - SMH

This time, they can't blame Robbie Farah.

Eight months ago, Jason Taylor decided it was time to ungraciously push the Tigers captain and club legend out the door, out of Concord and over the edge of the cliff. "I believe we're going to be better with Robbie not in the team," Taylor told reporters, chest puffed out, emboldened by the support of the Tigers board. "We've got too many cooks spoiling the broth in regards to the cohesion of our team."

Taylor has every right to determine the squad he coaches and he was bang on, too … as the 46-6 loss to the Raiders on Sunday and the 36-2 loss to Penrith the Sunday before that clearly showed.

Imagine if they had the NSW hooker – the hooker the club is still paying $750,000 to play elsewhere – on the field? Could've been a disaster.

When the news broke just after lunch on Monday that the Tigers board had unexpectedly sacked Taylor just three matches into the season, the first person many weary fans thought about was Farah.

He wasn't answering his phone but those close to him say he was hardly skipping around his new home at Redfern Oval singing Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead!

Farah played his 250th match on Saturday but it wasn't for the Tigers, his beloved club, but South Sydney. Understandably, he was left feeling hollow by Taylor's sacking.

All that heartache, all that BS, that defiant can of beer sitting up there beneath the old scoreboard at Leichhardt Oval … and for what?

So, in the absence of Farah, fingers had to be pointed elsewhere for Taylor's sudden demise and many of them were being pointed at leading player manager Isaac Moses.

He manages the so-called Big Four – captain and prop Aaron Woods, fullback James Tedesco, five-eighth Mitchell Moses, halfback Luke Brooks – and they all come off contract this year. Indeed, another masterstroke from the club: having your top four players coming off contract at the one time. Pure genius.

Two weeks ago, on NRL 360, Woods threw out a line about wanting some certainty around Taylor – who was also coming off contract this year - before re-signing and the media pounced on it like dobermans, as they should.

Moses also represents Todd Payten, who is an assistant at the Cowboys but also the successful former under-20s coach at the Tigers who many of the players adore and respect and many wanted as coach after Mick Potter was sacked.

He is also the player manager club bosses loathe but players respect because of his ability to screw out every last cent for them. He represents some of the biggest names in the game, headed by Kangaroos captain Cameron Smith, and is close to NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg from their days working at ANZ Stadium.

The suspicion is that Moses is holding a gun to the head of the Tigers' board, trying to work out what's best for all of his clients and for him. I've never known a player manager to do any different.

He refused to comment when contacted on Monday so he couldn't shed any light on his position but surely the Tigers board or whoever is in charge of signing players there are watching the same game as the rest of us.

Because if they are watching the same game, they should see that Woods is a bankable forward worthy of a contract befitting a NSW Origin captain of the future. They should also see that Tedesco is the NSW fullback of the future, although one who is injury-prone.

And if they are really watching the same game as the rest of us they will see that Moses and Brooks are boys playing against men.

Potential and promise is one thing, and that comes with a handy price tag.

But playing finals footy, winning finals footy, playing in rep sides is another thing altogether and neither have achieved any of that to be demanding salaries over $500,000 a season.

So, if Issac Moses isn't to blame for this disaster at the Wests Tigers, then who is?

Maybe the coach, who was sacked as Souths coach following his infamous Karate Kid impression in front of David Fa'alogo during Mad Monday celebrations.

He came to Concord and promised to bring a hard defensive edge to the side. The last two matches speak for themselves, although in fairness he had to deal with a Tim Simona gambling saga he never saw coming.

When the disgraced centre revealed in The Sunday Telegraph that he'd been snorting cocaine with teammates during Mad Monday celebrations, it rocked the squad on the day of the match against Penrith.

If Taylor isn't entirely to blame, then, perhaps it's chief executive Justin Pascoe.

Early into his tenure at the Tigers, Pascoe was warned about the pitfalls of keeping Taylor. Promises were made about ensuring Farah would be safe; that he'd be treated with respect.

As the deplorable events of last season unfolded, and Farah was told on the eve of his 250th match that he was being dispatched to NSW Cup, Pascoe fell silent.

"We're not going to allow this organisation to drift again," Pascoe declare at a media conference late on Monday.

Drift? The Tigers went out with the tide months ago.

The chief executive, though, is answerable to a board, and on that count it must surely be time for change.

It's understood the club is now paying about $1.2 million for players and coaches who are no longer there: $750,000 to Farah, about $200,000 for Curtis Sironen and now $250,000 for Taylor.

The Tigers have now sacked three coaches in five years. They fell for Taylor's spell, chose him over a club legend on the promise of change, and have now decided to sack him after just three matches.

If the conspiracy theorists are correct, and they've sacked a coach and sided with a player manager in a desperate bid to keep their biggest names, it will go down as the most sickening display from a board in recent history.

So maybe the people at the very top are to blame. And, for a change, they can't blame it on Robbie Farah.
 
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She probably would not know our legend Laurie Nichols as well!

Is that "our club legend" Laurie Nichols who you labelled an "embarrassment"? Give yourself another uppercut.
 
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She probably would not know our legend Laurie Nichols as well!

Is that "our club legend" Laurie Nichols who you labelled an "embarrassment"? Give yourself another uppercut.

You can run but you can't hide. I got to appreciate what he stood for, how much he cared and how dedicated he was - some say I have a bit of that madness as well. (it's not about me)

I still doubt that Ms Go knows who Laurie was.
 
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Jason Taylor has been sacked as Wests Tigers coach and this time Robbie Farah can't be blamed

Andrew Webster - SMH

This time, they can't blame Robbie Farah.

Eight months ago, Jason Taylor decided it was time to ungraciously push the Tigers captain and club legend out the door, out of Concord and over the edge of the cliff. "I believe we're going to be better with Robbie not in the team," Taylor told reporters, chest puffed out, emboldened by the support of the Tigers board. "We've got too many cooks spoiling the broth in regards to the cohesion of our team."

Taylor has every right to determine the squad he coaches and he was bang on, too … as the 46-6 loss to the Raiders on Sunday and the 36-2 loss to Penrith the Sunday before that clearly showed.

Imagine if they had the NSW hooker – the hooker the club is still paying $750,000 to play elsewhere – on the field? Could've been a disaster.

When the news broke just after lunch on Monday that the Tigers board had unexpectedly sacked Taylor just three matches into the season, the first person many weary fans thought about was Farah.

He wasn't answering his phone but those close to him say he was hardly skipping around his new home at Redfern Oval singing Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead!

Farah played his 250th match on Saturday but it wasn't for the Tigers, his beloved club, but South Sydney. Understandably, he was left feeling hollow by Taylor's sacking.

All that heartache, all that BS, that defiant can of beer sitting up there beneath the old scoreboard at Leichhardt Oval … and for what?

So, in the absence of Farah, fingers had to be pointed elsewhere for Taylor's sudden demise and many of them were being pointed at leading player manager Isaac Moses.

He manages the so-called Big Four – captain and prop Aaron Woods, fullback James Tedesco, five-eighth Mitchell Moses, halfback Luke Brooks – and they all come off contract this year. Indeed, another masterstroke from the club: having your top four players coming off contract at the one time. Pure genius.

Two weeks ago, on NRL 360, Woods threw out a line about wanting some certainty around Taylor – who was also coming off contract this year - before re-signing and the media pounced on it like dobermans, as they should.

Moses also represents Todd Payten, who is an assistant at the Cowboys but also the successful former under-20s coach at the Tigers who many of the players adore and respect and many wanted as coach after Mick Potter was sacked.

He is also the player manager club bosses loathe but players respect because of his ability to screw out every last cent for them. He represents some of the biggest names in the game, headed by Kangaroos captain Cameron Smith, and is close to NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg from their days working at ANZ Stadium.

The suspicion is that Moses is holding a gun to the head of the Tigers' board, trying to work out what's best for all of his clients and for him. I've never known a player manager to do any different.

He refused to comment when contacted on Monday so he couldn't shed any light on his position but surely the Tigers board or whoever is in charge of signing players there are watching the same game as the rest of us.

Because if they are watching the same game, they should see that Woods is a bankable forward worthy of a contract befitting a NSW Origin captain of the future. They should also see that Tedesco is the NSW fullback of the future, although one who is injury-prone.

And if they are really watching the same game as the rest of us they will see that Moses and Brooks are boys playing against men.

Potential and promise is one thing, and that comes with a handy price tag.

But playing finals footy, winning finals footy, playing in rep sides is another thing altogether and neither have achieved any of that to be demanding salaries over $500,000 a season.

So, if Issac Moses isn't to blame for this disaster at the Wests Tigers, then who is?

Maybe the coach, who was sacked as Souths coach following his infamous Karate Kid impression in front of David Fa'alogo during Mad Monday celebrations.

He came to Concord and promised to bring a hard defensive edge to the side. The last two matches speak for themselves, although in fairness he had to deal with a Tim Simona gambling saga he never saw coming.

When the disgraced centre revealed in The Sunday Telegraph that he'd been snorting cocaine with teammates during Mad Monday celebrations, it rocked the squad on the day of the match against Penrith.

If Taylor isn't entirely to blame, then, perhaps it's chief executive Justin Pascoe.

Early into his tenure at the Tigers, Pascoe was warned about the pitfalls of keeping Taylor. Promises were made about ensuring Farah would be safe; that he'd be treated with respect.

As the deplorable events of last season unfolded, and Farah was told on the eve of his 250th match that he was being dispatched to NSW Cup, Pascoe fell silent.

"We're not going to allow this organisation to drift again," Pascoe declare at a media conference late on Monday.

Drift? The Tigers went out with the tide months ago.

The chief executive, though, is answerable to a board, and on that count it must surely be time for change.

It's understood the club is now paying about $1.2 million for players and coaches who are no longer there: $750,000 to Farah, about $200,000 for Curtis Sironen and now $250,000 for Taylor.

The Tigers have now sacked three coaches in five years. They fell for Taylor's spell, chose him over a club legend on the promise of change, and have now decided to sack him after just three matches.

If the conspiracy theorists are correct, and they've sacked a coach and sided with a player manager in a desperate bid to keep their biggest names, it will go down as the most sickening display from a board in recent history.

So maybe the people at the very top are to blame. And, for a change, they can't blame it on Robbie Farah.

Pretty spot on from where I sit.
 
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I wish Sironen and Blocker would vanish from the scene. They are constant baggers of the club and should know better. If only they had the class of Sterlo.

Sterlo is no better, he has bagged Parra constantly over the years. Its what club legends do when they see the organisation they spilt blood for perform so poorly.

Come to think of it, these guys didn't actually play for Wests Tigers. Sometimes I wonder about their motives.. Some of the stuff they come out with is embarrassingly dumb. Blocker on Sterlo Show is always cringe worthy, in fact most times he's asked for his opinion on anything..
 
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Jason Taylor has been sacked as Wests Tigers coach and this time Robbie Farah can't be blamed

Andrew Webster - SMH

This time, they can't blame Robbie Farah.

Eight months ago, Jason Taylor decided it was time to ungraciously push the Tigers captain and club legend out the door, out of Concord and over the edge of the cliff. "I believe we're going to be better with Robbie not in the team," Taylor told reporters, chest puffed out, emboldened by the support of the Tigers board. "We've got too many cooks spoiling the broth in regards to the cohesion of our team."

Taylor has every right to determine the squad he coaches and he was bang on, too … as the 46-6 loss to the Raiders on Sunday and the 36-2 loss to Penrith the Sunday before that clearly showed.

Imagine if they had the NSW hooker – the hooker the club is still paying $750,000 to play elsewhere – on the field? Could've been a disaster.

When the news broke just after lunch on Monday that the Tigers board had unexpectedly sacked Taylor just three matches into the season, the first person many weary fans thought about was Farah.

He wasn't answering his phone but those close to him say he was hardly skipping around his new home at Redfern Oval singing Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead!

Farah played his 250th match on Saturday but it wasn't for the Tigers, his beloved club, but South Sydney. Understandably, he was left feeling hollow by Taylor's sacking.

All that heartache, all that BS, that defiant can of beer sitting up there beneath the old scoreboard at Leichhardt Oval … and for what?

So, in the absence of Farah, fingers had to be pointed elsewhere for Taylor's sudden demise and many of them were being pointed at leading player manager Isaac Moses.

He manages the so-called Big Four – captain and prop Aaron Woods, fullback James Tedesco, five-eighth Mitchell Moses, halfback Luke Brooks – and they all come off contract this year. Indeed, another masterstroke from the club: having your top four players coming off contract at the one time. Pure genius.

Two weeks ago, on NRL 360, Woods threw out a line about wanting some certainty around Taylor – who was also coming off contract this year - before re-signing and the media pounced on it like dobermans, as they should.

Moses also represents Todd Payten, who is an assistant at the Cowboys but also the successful former under-20s coach at the Tigers who many of the players adore and respect and many wanted as coach after Mick Potter was sacked.

He is also the player manager club bosses loathe but players respect because of his ability to screw out every last cent for them. He represents some of the biggest names in the game, headed by Kangaroos captain Cameron Smith, and is close to NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg from their days working at ANZ Stadium.

The suspicion is that Moses is holding a gun to the head of the Tigers' board, trying to work out what's best for all of his clients and for him. I've never known a player manager to do any different.

He refused to comment when contacted on Monday so he couldn't shed any light on his position but surely the Tigers board or whoever is in charge of signing players there are watching the same game as the rest of us.

Because if they are watching the same game, they should see that Woods is a bankable forward worthy of a contract befitting a NSW Origin captain of the future. They should also see that Tedesco is the NSW fullback of the future, although one who is injury-prone.

And if they are really watching the same game as the rest of us they will see that Moses and Brooks are boys playing against men.

Potential and promise is one thing, and that comes with a handy price tag.

But playing finals footy, winning finals footy, playing in rep sides is another thing altogether and neither have achieved any of that to be demanding salaries over $500,000 a season.

So, if Issac Moses isn't to blame for this disaster at the Wests Tigers, then who is?

Maybe the coach, who was sacked as Souths coach following his infamous Karate Kid impression in front of David Fa'alogo during Mad Monday celebrations.

He came to Concord and promised to bring a hard defensive edge to the side. The last two matches speak for themselves, although in fairness he had to deal with a Tim Simona gambling saga he never saw coming.

When the disgraced centre revealed in The Sunday Telegraph that he'd been snorting cocaine with teammates during Mad Monday celebrations, it rocked the squad on the day of the match against Penrith.

If Taylor isn't entirely to blame, then, perhaps it's chief executive Justin Pascoe.

Early into his tenure at the Tigers, Pascoe was warned about the pitfalls of keeping Taylor. Promises were made about ensuring Farah would be safe; that he'd be treated with respect.

As the deplorable events of last season unfolded, and Farah was told on the eve of his 250th match that he was being dispatched to NSW Cup, Pascoe fell silent.

"We're not going to allow this organisation to drift again," Pascoe declare at a media conference late on Monday.

Drift? The Tigers went out with the tide months ago.

The chief executive, though, is answerable to a board, and on that count it must surely be time for change.

It's understood the club is now paying about $1.2 million for players and coaches who are no longer there: $750,000 to Farah, about $200,000 for Curtis Sironen and now $250,000 for Taylor.

The Tigers have now sacked three coaches in five years. They fell for Taylor's spell, chose him over a club legend on the promise of change, and have now decided to sack him after just three matches.

If the conspiracy theorists are correct, and they've sacked a coach and sided with a player manager in a desperate bid to keep their biggest names, it will go down as the most sickening display from a board in recent history.

So maybe the people at the very top are to blame. And, for a change, they can't blame it on Robbie Farah.

It was still Farahs fault. He got in Mitch Moses' ear at the Lebanon team meet and told him to bomb the last 2 games to make Taylor look like a bad coach.

In all seriousness though, the clubs issues go much deeper than the coach.. I thought this new board was supposed to be a positive change to replace our other dysfunctional board. Just doesn't end with this club.. I don't know who to blame anymore.
 
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Everything is great in hindsight.
Forget JT, the club has nobody left to blame for the rest of the season.
JT won't have the wooden spoon against his record with just 3 rounds coached out of 26 rounds.
The board is next to come crashing down. They exposed themselves by this debacle.

I was reading that Marina Go was at a function and introduced herself to Laurie Daley and asked who he was.
Haha haha. She is so out of depth.

Absolutely, the players now have no-one to take the fall for them. The crutch is gone and blame for insipid, pathetic performances like the last fortnight will lay squarely at their feet.
I'd say the playing group as a whole will be feeling pretty exposed right now with the eyes of the NRL world now right on them and seeing if they really have some fortitude and pride in their jersey.
Webster will be the scapegoat for any shameful performances in the next few weeks you can be sure.
 
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I wish Sironen and Blocker would vanish from the scene. They are constant baggers of the club and should know better. If only they had the class of Sterlo.

They have as much right to have an opinion, and voice it ,as we do
Actually they have much more of a right to do that than we do here ( and a first hand knowledge of the club too)
I'm not sure how many of us here played first grade for the club, or parent clubs.
But I'd think not many .
But we think we know better

When they publicly voice their invariably negative opinions of the club as they are wont to do it is damaging to the club. Having an opinion is one thing, voicing it is another and voicing it very publicly to a wide audience is yet another. These guys have personal agendas and axes to grind, well Sirro does at least as is readily apparent from what he said.

You may be right about some of that, but my point stands that they do have the right to have an opinion and express it, they still have more of am idea on what's going on than any of us do
Just because we agree or don't agree with them is irrelevant.
 
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In all seriousness though, the clubs issues go much deeper than the coach.. I thought this new board was supposed to be a positive change to replace our other dysfunctional board. Just doesn't end with this club.. I don't know who to blame anymore.

Serious question. What actions by the present board do you feel are dysfunctional?
 
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Potter wasn't sacked, tsk tsk, journalism.

Boys on 360 mentioned him being sacked several times, along with Cleary agreeing to terms at WTs already, Go not knowing Daley, one secret club target all four of the fab four. . blah blah
 
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In all seriousness though, the clubs issues go much deeper than the coach.. I thought this new board was supposed to be a positive change to replace our other dysfunctional board. Just doesn't end with this club.. I don't know who to blame anymore.

Serious question. What actions by the present board do you feel are dysfunctional?

It looks like I insinuated that our current board are dysfunctional but I didn't really intend that - not saying they're dysfunctional. I will say that I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes however, and our club as a whole isn't looking too good. I really do hope a new coach fixes most of our problems but somehow I don't think it will anytime soon.
 
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Potter wasn't sacked, tsk tsk, journalism.

Boys on 360 mentioned him being sacked several times, along with Cleary agreeing to terms at WTs already, Go not knowing Daley, one secret club target all four of the fab four. . blah blah

Oh THAT was a highlight from Paul Kent.

"It was like David Smith not knowing Benji Marshall, or was it Ben Barba, or was it Cameron Smith? Anyway you know the story I am talking about."

Let me not-fully-remember for you the story about another bloke not-fully-remembering another bloke's name.

Throw in about 50 "Balmain's" and you are forgiven for wondering whether any of these dudes really have much of an idea at all what they are talking about. Ben Ikin only impresses me, he's a smart operator and it's not just his glasses giving me that impression, I liked the way he shot down Kent (?) when talking about the Chairperson role and who that person answers to.

"Why would I need facts or background information when I can just text former players for opinions and then go on a rant!?"
 
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In all seriousness though, the clubs issues go much deeper than the coach.. I thought this new board was supposed to be a positive change to replace our other dysfunctional board. Just doesn't end with this club.. I don't know who to blame anymore.

Serious question. What actions by the present board do you feel are dysfunctional?

It looks like I insinuated that our current board are dysfunctional but I didn't really intend that - not saying they're dysfunctional. I will say that I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes however, and our club as a whole isn't looking too good. I really do hope a new coach fixes most of our problems but somehow I don't think it will anytime soon.

I wasnt having a go at you Sco77y and Im not directing this post at you either but personally it is irritating me the amount of knee jerk reaction by the media, other fans and our fans directing anger at "the board" or Pascoe or even Go. This board was put in place because the previous board was totally disfuntional, mostly because of stupid inter-club bickering with one of the clubs (mine, Balmain) having no real authority to even be there. This board was put in place to be (generally) independent and make rational decisions. I actually see NO evidence to date that this present board are not doing a good job. In fact I think there have been examples that they have made tough and good decisions for the betterment of the club.
 
Ivan Cleary on NRL Tonight at 5:30pm to address speculation regarding the Wests Tigers. Not a good sign I wouldn't have thought.. If he was in talks wouldn't he be laying low for the time being?
 

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