Wests Tigers sign James Roberts till 2022

[BAGNF05]

Surely everyone can see now that Roberts has no value for us and should not be re-signed under any circumstances.

I think the fact we have just started up with the indigenous pathways, it would not be a good look, he will probably add value to that in the long term?

Tigers need to be more one eyed about why they exist. Programs schmograms.

These sort of things are important to the community and the club should 100% be doing this stuff. It can also assist in recruiting players.

Hasn’t so far mate

This program hasn't been running that long and to be honest I couldn't care less if it didn't lead to any players. Football clubs can be inspirational in the community and they should harness that to improve their community.

It’s a nice vibe but until the club can win games they ain’t gonna inspire much.

Its just not true though, I have been involved in Panthers on the Prowl for example and it is a crucial initiative that does a lot for the Penrith community. Still was an incredibly successful initiative even when they aren't winning Premierships.

In my opinion parts of the organisation are so broken that we’re not ready to diversify. I bet Gus started by fixing the footy department not the community piece.

That is actually not true either, when Gus was appointed to be the General Manager of football at Penrith he made the decision that other aspects of the club needed fixing and took on a much larger role than was 1st expected. He was involved in the Leagues Club issues and community programs as well.

I think we are doing really smart things in our appointments in Pathways and Sheens every expanding role. There is nothing wrong with having community programs running well as well.

I’d argue Sheens or similar should have been appointed long before the community programs, but we aren’t gonna agree so best to agree on that that ?

 

[cochise]

Surely everyone can see now that Roberts has no value for us and should not be re-signed under any circumstances.

I think the fact we have just started up with the indigenous pathways, it would not be a good look, he will probably add value to that in the long term?

Tigers need to be more one eyed about why they exist. Programs schmograms.

These sort of things are important to the community and the club should 100% be doing this stuff. It can also assist in recruiting players.

Hasn’t so far mate

This program hasn't been running that long and to be honest I couldn't care less if it didn't lead to any players. Football clubs can be inspirational in the community and they should harness that to improve their community.

It’s a nice vibe but until the club can win games they ain’t gonna inspire much.

Its just not true though, I have been involved in Panthers on the Prowl for example and it is a crucial initiative that does a lot for the Penrith community. Still was an incredibly successful initiative even when they aren't winning Premierships.

In my opinion parts of the organisation are so broken that we’re not ready to diversify. I bet Gus started by fixing the footy department not the community piece.

That is actually not true either, when Gus was appointed to be the General Manager of football at Penrith he made the decision that other aspects of the club needed fixing and took on a much larger role than was 1st expected. He was involved in the Leagues Club issues and community programs as well.

I think we are doing really smart things in our appointments in Pathways and Sheens every expanding role. There is nothing wrong with having community programs running well as well.

I’d argue Sheens or similar should have been appointed long before the community programs, but we aren’t gonna agree so best to agree on that that ?

You need to be in strong financial position to make the appointments we have made over the last 6 months though, we have put some really respected people into key positions throughout our pathways and football departments. I don't think we were in a position to put someone into a coaching director position above a premiership winning coach until after this season.

 

[BAGNF05]

Surely everyone can see now that Roberts has no value for us and should not be re-signed under any circumstances.

I think the fact we have just started up with the indigenous pathways, it would not be a good look, he will probably add value to that in the long term?

Tigers need to be more one eyed about why they exist. Programs schmograms.

These sort of things are important to the community and the club should 100% be doing this stuff. It can also assist in recruiting players.

Hasn’t so far mate

This program hasn't been running that long and to be honest I couldn't care less if it didn't lead to any players. Football clubs can be inspirational in the community and they should harness that to improve their community.

It’s a nice vibe but until the club can win games they ain’t gonna inspire much.

Its just not true though, I have been involved in Panthers on the Prowl for example and it is a crucial initiative that does a lot for the Penrith community. Still was an incredibly successful initiative even when they aren't winning Premierships.

In my opinion parts of the organisation are so broken that we’re not ready to diversify. I bet Gus started by fixing the footy department not the community piece.

That is actually not true either, when Gus was appointed to be the General Manager of football at Penrith he made the decision that other aspects of the club needed fixing and took on a much larger role than was 1st expected. He was involved in the Leagues Club issues and community programs as well.

I think we are doing really smart things in our appointments in Pathways and Sheens every expanding role. There is nothing wrong with having community programs running well as well.

I’d argue Sheens or similar should have been appointed long before the community programs, but we aren’t gonna agree so best to agree on that that ?

You need to be in strong financial position to make the appointments we have made over the last 6 months though, we have put some really respected people into key positions throughout our pathways and football departments. I don't think we were in a position to put someone into a coaching director position above a premiership winning coach until after this season.

That’s the narrative we’re being sold isn’t it. I’ve seen teenagers save up quicker than WT, Ed: if it comes off I’ll be the first to eat my words.

 

[cochise]

Surely everyone can see now that Roberts has no value for us and should not be re-signed under any circumstances.

I think the fact we have just started up with the indigenous pathways, it would not be a good look, he will probably add value to that in the long term?

Tigers need to be more one eyed about why they exist. Programs schmograms.

These sort of things are important to the community and the club should 100% be doing this stuff. It can also assist in recruiting players.

Hasn’t so far mate

This program hasn't been running that long and to be honest I couldn't care less if it didn't lead to any players. Football clubs can be inspirational in the community and they should harness that to improve their community.

It’s a nice vibe but until the club can win games they ain’t gonna inspire much.

Its just not true though, I have been involved in Panthers on the Prowl for example and it is a crucial initiative that does a lot for the Penrith community. Still was an incredibly successful initiative even when they aren't winning Premierships.

In my opinion parts of the organisation are so broken that we’re not ready to diversify. I bet Gus started by fixing the footy department not the community piece.

That is actually not true either, when Gus was appointed to be the General Manager of football at Penrith he made the decision that other aspects of the club needed fixing and took on a much larger role than was 1st expected. He was involved in the Leagues Club issues and community programs as well.

I think we are doing really smart things in our appointments in Pathways and Sheens every expanding role. There is nothing wrong with having community programs running well as well.

I’d argue Sheens or similar should have been appointed long before the community programs, but we aren’t gonna agree so best to agree on that that ?

You need to be in strong financial position to make the appointments we have made over the last 6 months though, we have put some really respected people into key positions throughout our pathways and football departments. I don't think we were in a position to put someone into a coaching director position above a premiership winning coach until after this season.

That’s the narrative we’re being sold isn’t it. I’ve seen teenagers save up quicker than WT

We made a crucial error of going away from development after the "Big 3" left, that takes time to rectify, I am really looking forward to the work that Betsey and Kimmorley are going to do in our pathways, but we are along way off topic so will just end this discussion here lol.

 

[dazza65]

Reports saying James Roberts has been offered a train & trial contact on $1000 pw.

But he already had a contract for next year. Club option I know but why say no we don’t want you on that and offer a train and trail. Makes no sense


I would say that the club does not think he is worth what the option dictates he would get so they declined it.This way we would get him on a cheaper contract because lets be honest he did nothing this year that was worth perservering with.

But why would James take that. It would be like your employer saying look you’re no good a your job but we like you so we will keep you are doing this other job for half the pay. Surely you’d say thanks but no thanks

Maybe he will. Doubt he’d have many other NRL options though.

 

[Geo]

Reports saying James Roberts has been offered a train & trial contact on $1000 pw.

But he already had a contract for next year. Club option I know but why say no we don’t want you on that and offer a train and trail. Makes no sense


I would say that the club does not think he is worth what the option dictates he would get so they declined it.This way we would get him on a cheaper contract because lets be honest he did nothing this year that was worth perservering with.

But why would James take that. It would be like your employer saying look you’re no good a your job but we like you so we will keep you are doing this other job for half the pay. Surely you’d say thanks but no thanks

Opens another Roster spot.. Gives Roberts a chance to still play NRL that he probably doesn't get elsewhere throught the season..

 

[happy_tiger]

Reports saying James Roberts has been offered a train & trial contact on $1000 pw.

But he already had a contract for next year. Club option I know but why say no we don’t want you on that and offer a train and trail. Makes no sense


I would say that the club does not think he is worth what the option dictates he would get so they declined it.This way we would get him on a cheaper contract because lets be honest he did nothing this year that was worth perservering with.

But why would James take that. It would be like your employer saying look you’re no good a your job but we like you so we will keep you are doing this other job for half the pay. Surely you’d say thanks but no thanks

Opens another Roster spot.. Gives Roberts a chance to still play NRL that he probably doesn't get elsewhere throught the season..

Roberts would be the perfect Roosters signing .....

 

[Needaname]

Reports saying James Roberts has been offered a train & trial contact on $1000 pw.

But he already had a contract for next year. Club option I know but why say no we don’t want you on that and offer a train and trail. Makes no sense


I would say that the club does not think he is worth what the option dictates he would get so they declined it.This way we would get him on a cheaper contract because lets be honest he did nothing this year that was worth perservering with.

But why would James take that. It would be like your employer saying look you’re no good a your job but we like you so we will keep you are doing this other job for half the pay. Surely you’d say thanks but no thanks

Opens another Roster spot.. Gives Roberts a chance to still play NRL that he probably doesn't get elsewhere throught the season..

Any word on whether the NRL will allow Train And Trial players to play again after a set number of rounds?

 

[Geo]

Reports saying James Roberts has been offered a train & trial contact on $1000 pw.

But he already had a contract for next year. Club option I know but why say no we don’t want you on that and offer a train and trail. Makes no sense


I would say that the club does not think he is worth what the option dictates he would get so they declined it.This way we would get him on a cheaper contract because lets be honest he did nothing this year that was worth perservering with.

But why would James take that. It would be like your employer saying look you’re no good a your job but we like you so we will keep you are doing this other job for half the pay. Surely you’d say thanks but no thanks

Opens another Roster spot.. Gives Roberts a chance to still play NRL that he probably doesn't get elsewhere throught the season..

Any word on whether the NRL will allow Train And Trial players to play again after a set number of rounds?

Given pretty much the same conditions as 2020 ..my magic 8 ball points to Yes..

 

[balmain boy]

Reports saying James Roberts has been offered a train & trial contact on $1000 pw.

But he already had a contract for next year. Club option I know but why say no we don’t want you on that and offer a train and trail. Makes no sense


I would say that the club does not think he is worth what the option dictates he would get so they declined it.This way we would get him on a cheaper contract because lets be honest he did nothing this year that was worth perservering with.

But why would James take that. It would be like your employer saying look you’re no good a your job but we like you so we will keep you are doing this other job for half the pay. Surely you’d say thanks but no thanks

Because he has no other options. Other than retirement

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Reckon James still has good footy in him.

Just needs a decent pass to run on to.

 

[Tiger Woods]

Speaking of train & trial contracts what happened to edene gebbie ?

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Speaking of train & trial contracts what happened to edene gebbie ?

His deal went bust IIRC and he returned to PNG.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Reckon James still has good footy in him.

Just needs a decent pass to run on to.

The speed is there
Descent early ball, early in the set

 

[Blocker1963]

Great, he still has a lot to offer

 

[TigerLouis]

Should be the first centre we pick in our first game if we don’t sign any other centre.

 

[weststigerman]

Sounds like a good deal for the club. The pressure is on him to have a big off season, and he's not taking up a roster spot at this stage. Maybe we will also offer a train and trial contract to Curtis Scott and let them fight it out for a roster spot.

 

[Russell]

Roberts has played 11 games for the Tigers.

Doesn't seem like an ideal extension as we need FG ready centres desperately and he struggles to even make it on the field.

If it's cheap then it isn't the worst....
However extremely underwhelming.

Recruitment for 2022 has been very poor.

Fat Lady hasn't even opened her mouth yet. Be patient Demps, long way to go yet.

 

[balmain boy]

Roberts has played 11 games for the Tigers.

Doesn't seem like an ideal extension as we need FG ready centres desperately and he struggles to even make it on the field.

If it's cheap then it isn't the worst....
However extremely underwhelming.

Recruitment for 2022 has been very poor.

Fat Lady hasn't even opened her mouth yet. Be patient Demps, long way to go yet.

Be patient?

We're talking about a player who's been sacked 3-4 times in his career. Who's had huge issues with fitness, and with controlling himself off field and getting into incidents. He's almost 30. Why does anyone think he'll magically change now? And of all clubs that we might be able to turn a player from rubbish to great - how many of those gambles have paid off for us historically?

 

[Russell]

Recruitment for 2022 has been very poor.

I was referring to Demps comment:

"Recruitment for 2022 has been very poor."

Not what we are doing with JTJ.