Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 3..

[Needaname]

Has Roberts swapped sides?
It looks at though he's not paired with AJ
And TT is paired with Nofa?

Where have you seen that? It balances the team a bit better I think

I think they mean cause he’s switched numbers from #3 to #4.

So has Garner and Luciano now that I look properly.

Either way it could give the impression they have even if they don’t. Do numbers really have to be reserved for Left and right sides?

 

[TrueTiger]

How is the team named ..
Like.. are there names written down on a notice board or do they receive gold envelopes like on top gear with a challenge inside ?

Hobbo.this may give you some idea of the selection process,I will go back to my days of playing...
1.you go to training on Tues Weds and Friday nights..
2.On Friday after the training is completed you are sat down in the sheds,on the blackboard written in chalk was the FG team and Reserve grade team..
3.We had a selection committee that would converse with the FG and Reserve grade coaches,they would then decide who plays or who doesnt...
4.we had 35 players train every week,every night and out of that 35 ,30 were picked for FG and Reserves..
5.Back then reserves had 13 players and 4 on the bench...out of reserves 2 were picked on the day to be on the bench for first grade....

Things change alot over the years but I dont think Madge is the sole selector...he may have a selection committee as well..not sure but its worth investigating...
Hope this helps a bit Hobs,its been a while since I had a line put through my name mate...:disappointed_relieved: :clap:

I heard you could peel an orange ? in under 6 seconds ?

Without cutting my fingers...Happy was a hell of alot quicker though...he holds the record...:blush:

 

[hobbo1]

How is the team named ..
Like.. are there names written down on a notice board or do they receive gold envelopes like on top gear with a challenge inside ?

Hobbo.this may give you some idea of the selection process,I will go back to my days of playing...
1.you go to training on Tues Weds and Friday nights..
2.On Friday after the training is completed you are sat down in the sheds,on the blackboard written in chalk was the FG team and Reserve grade team..
3.We had a selection committee that would converse with the FG and Reserve grade coaches,they would then decide who plays or who doesnt...
4.we had 35 players train every week,every night and out of that 35 ,30 were picked for FG and Reserves..
5.Back then reserves had 13 players and 4 on the bench...out of reserves 2 were picked on the day to be on the bench for first grade....

Things change alot over the years but I dont think Madge is the sole selector...he may have a selection committee as well..not sure but its worth investigating...
Hope this helps a bit Hobs,its been a while since I had a line put through my name mate...:disappointed_relieved: :clap:

I heard you could peel an orange ? in under 6 seconds ?

Without cutting my fingers...Happy was a hell of alot quicker though...he holds the record...:blush:

@happy_tiger job was to remove the cane toads from the playing field .

 

[TrueTiger]

How is the team named ..
Like.. are there names written down on a notice board or do they receive gold envelopes like on top gear with a challenge inside ?

Hobbo.this may give you some idea of the selection process,I will go back to my days of playing...
1.you go to training on Tues Weds and Friday nights..
2.On Friday after the training is completed you are sat down in the sheds,on the blackboard written in chalk was the FG team and Reserve grade team..
3.We had a selection committee that would converse with the FG and Reserve grade coaches,they would then decide who plays or who doesnt...
4.we had 35 players train every week,every night and out of that 35 ,30 were picked for FG and Reserves..
5.Back then reserves had 13 players and 4 on the bench...out of reserves 2 were picked on the day to be on the bench for first grade....

Things change alot over the years but I dont think Madge is the sole selector...he may have a selection committee as well..not sure but its worth investigating...
Hope this helps a bit Hobs,its been a while since I had a line put through my name mate...:disappointed_relieved: :clap:

I heard you could peel an orange ? in under 6 seconds ?

Without cutting my fingers...Happy was a hell of alot quicker though...he holds the record...:blush:

Mate I even mixed the staminade at record pace...I was so good at it they were short of players in reggies one day and the good ole mixer and peeler was called upon to fill the position...he did it that well he was picked every week for 51/2 years making the odd fg side on a few occasions....strong work ethic pays dividends sometimes....:+1: :+1:

 

[barnzee]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

I think the best thing for Simpkin would be to head back to Queensland


Why?The 3 Qld sides have been ordinary as well

They will come good not sure about this club

 

[the_third]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

I think the best thing for Simpkin would be to head back to Queensland


Why?The 3 Qld sides have been ordinary as well

They will come good not sure about this club

step off anytime

 

[frullens]

Has Roberts swapped sides?
It looks at though he's not paired with AJ
And TT is paired with Nofa?

Where have you seen that? It balances the team a bit better I think

I think they mean cause he’s switched numbers from #3 to #4.

So has Garner and Luciano now that I look properly.

Yeah I was just judging from the numbers. Normally 2 & 3 are on the same edge and 4 & 5 are on the other edge.

Which means Roberts is now paired with AJ on the left side.

While Talau is with Nofa - defending Bradman best.

LLCOOLj and Garner have swapped numbers also, which may mean that:

Left edge is:
Brooks, Garner, Roberts & AJ

Right edge is:
Douehi, LL, TT & Nofa

 

[Fade.To.Black]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

I think the best thing for Simpkin would be to head back to Queensland


Why?The 3 Qld sides have been ordinary as well

They will come good not sure about this club

They're looking no better than us ATM. For all the "top 4" hype the Titans had going into the season they've been bog average same as us. I wouldn't be lining up to swap our squad with any of the Qld teams. Titans pack is good on paper but not setting the world on fire.

 

[jadtiger]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

I think the best thing for Simpkin would be to head back to Queensland


Why?The 3 Qld sides have been ordinary as well

They will come good not sure about this club

I think you are more of a Simkin supporter than a WT supporter judging by your previous posts.There is nothing wrong with that at all but it does show more than just a hint of bias

 

[hank37w]

I got a 4 letter word for BJ..... starts with f

Tigers by -30

Can I buy a vowel?

 

[barnzee]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

I think the best thing for Simpkin would be to head back to Queensland


Why?The 3 Qld sides have been ordinary as well

They will come good not sure about this club


I think you are more of a Simkin supporter than a WT supporter judging by your previous posts.There is nothing wrong with that at all but it does show more than just a hint of bias

your opinon mate just not seeing any positives in the club at the moment , I just think a young bloke like him would be better off moving on to a better club where he wont get bogged down like Brookes

 

[TrueTiger]

The biggest worry is whether the team has the right attitude and composure out on the field. We've lacked direction in both games so far - there's no ownership out there. I'm just not sure where that leadership and commitment is going to come from because so far it's not coming from Tamou.

Willow,do you think that although they had a good preseason that once on the field in a competetive situation the young guys may be a bit uncertain and letting the more senior guys take the riens ? this would explain that Tamou led a side to finals and everybody knew their job,but here it maybe the other side of the coin...the young ones seem to stand off a bit instead of going hard...bj is the exception,to me he has lost the plot completely and the stint on the bench or in ressies could do him a world of good...

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

The biggest worry is whether the team has the right attitude and composure out on the field. We've lacked direction in both games so far - there's no ownership out there. I'm just not sure where that leadership and commitment is going to come from because so far it's not coming from Tamou.

Willow,do you think that although they had a good preseason that once on the field in a competetive situation the young guys may be a bit uncertain and letting the more senior guys take the riens ? this would explain that Tamou led a side to finals and everybody knew their job,but here it maybe the other side of the coin...the young ones seem to stand off a bit instead of going hard...bj is the exception,to me he has lost the plot completely and the stint on the bench or in ressies could do him a world of good...

However, the 'experienced' guys failed, and young ones Laurie, Utoikamanu were the best in our side?:thinking_face:

 

[jadtiger]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

I think the best thing for Simpkin would be to head back to Queensland


Why?The 3 Qld sides have been ordinary as well

They will come good not sure about this club


I think you are more of a Simkin supporter than a WT supporter judging by your previous posts.There is nothing wrong with that at all but it does show more than just a hint of bias

your opinon mate just not seeing any positives in the club at the moment , I just think a young bloke like him would be better off moving on to a better club where he wont get bogged down like Brookes

There is no doubt we have had a poor start to the season with losses to 2 strong sides but i would say we have performed no worse than the 3 Qld outfits who have faced lesser opposition.Like any player his age he needs time to mature,it would be bordering on criminal to throw him in too early especially if the team is not travelling well.Madge has more sense than to throw a rookie to the wolves,i am sure he will be bled into first grade during the year as he gets more game time

 

[Guest]

The biggest worry is whether the team has the right attitude and composure out on the field. We've lacked direction in both games so far - there's no ownership out there. I'm just not sure where that leadership and commitment is going to come from because so far it's not coming from Tamou.

Willow,do you think that although they had a good preseason that once on the field in a competetive situation the young guys may be a bit uncertain and letting the more senior guys take the riens ? this would explain that Tamou led a side to finals and everybody knew their job,but here it maybe the other side of the coin...the young ones seem to stand off a bit instead of going hard...bj is the exception,to me he has lost the plot completely and the stint on the bench or in ressies could do him a world of good...

They just don't play as a team should - that's the simple explanation. Why? That's the important question. I don't think for a second its the coach - it's something more than that...Either the players are fearful of who they're playing, or once they're out on the field they just lack the self belief to think they can actually win. Losing can become an all-too familiar habit and this side is unfortunately used to it, bar Tamou but even he has had some lean runs during his career.

 

[weststigerman]

If you hadn’t watched the first 2 games, you’d say that’s one of the strongest benches we’ve ever had.

It’s a shame the side hasn’t got the smarts to go with it.

 

[hank37w]

Haven't been receiving team list by member emails/notifications anymore. Maybe the club trying to keep it low key?

I got 3 to make up for it.

 

[Madge]

The biggest worry is whether the team has the right attitude and composure out on the field. We've lacked direction in both games so far - there's no ownership out there. I'm just not sure where that leadership and commitment is going to come from because so far it's not coming from Tamou.

Willow,do you think that although they had a good preseason that once on the field in a competetive situation the young guys may be a bit uncertain and letting the more senior guys take the riens ? this would explain that Tamou led a side to finals and everybody knew their job,but here it maybe the other side of the coin...the young ones seem to stand off a bit instead of going hard...bj is the exception,to me he has lost the plot completely and the stint on the bench or in ressies could do him a world of good...

They just don't play as a team should - that's the simple explanation. Why? That's the important question. I don't think for a second its the coach - it's something more than that...Either the players are fearful of who they're playing, or once they're out on the field they just lack the self belief to think they can actually win. Losing can become an all-too familiar habit and this side is unfortunately used to it, bar Tamou but even he has had some lean runs during his career.

I think you are spot on. Judging by some of our performances it is either we can in a game where we are high on confidence and it becomes a training run for them. Others we go into our shell and we look scared to go out there and fight for 80 mins. It is a consistent theme throughout the tigers last decade. I guess that is why we brought in some experience and got rid of the other experienced blokes, but it still hasnt rubbed off yet it seems. Time will tell.

 

[PJ_]

Cue fluff article from BJ this week.
"Hardest I've ever trained, working my butt off to get back in the team, want to do the fans proud"
Did I miss any?

“Spotted” at Oporto’s

??

 

[hank37w]

Humiliated two weeks in a row.

Enter Sheenius

Move a guy being groomed as a back rower to the centres and make one player the scapegoat.

Nah

Im out on this coach.

Joey was worst on the field by a long way last game so please explain to me how punting him makes him the scapegoat?

Don't mention the word goat around Joey.....his guts will start to rumble. Mmmm goat

No, his head will get even bigger because he will think that you think that he is the Greatest Of All Time.