Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 3..

[hobbo1]

Cue fluff article from BJ this week.
"Hardest I've ever trained, working my butt off to get back in the team, want to do the fans proud"
Did I miss any?

“Spotted” at Oporto’s

 

[Cairnstigers]

You guys should see the Facebook fans asking for Madge's head over this lineup. Some of them are saying it's the last straw of their support lol.

Straws are banned now so I'm not surprised

 

[bigsiro]

How badly do you have to play to get dropped?

 

[Mac_tiger]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

 

[Cairnstigers]

I think its a reasonable team with Musgrove in and BJ out. I think Kepoa to be on last chance at this stage and maybe the existing spine of Laurie, Doueihi, Brooks and Liddle given a week or two further to gel or the obvious first change will happen- Brooks out.

Still reckon if I were WT I’d be searching for a replacement half in England- we have till August I think to finalise squad. Brooks has been misfiring for 5 years now, Its over boy the moment we can get a replacement. Get someone for 2 years as I suspect Madden is at least a year away and has been given a further year to develop.

We need a second hooker on the bench
Liddle will be targeted all game
They will run forwards at him till he drops
Then we have Mbye at hooker
Shut the gates

 

[mike]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

That’s exactly what I was thinking. They really aren’t pushing for first grade spot. Pretty average in NSW Cup.

 

[bigsiro]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

That’s exactly what I was thinking. They really aren’t pushing for first grade spot. Pretty average in NSW Cup.

Yep. But that was not unexpected. Their lineups aren’t inspiring either.
Do we even have a recruitment dept?

 

[2005magic]

I think its a reasonable team with Musgrove in and BJ out. I think Kepoa to be on last chance at this stage and maybe the existing spine of Laurie, Doueihi, Brooks and Liddle given a week or two further to gel or the obvious first change will happen- Brooks out.

Still reckon if I were WT I’d be searching for a replacement half in England- we have till August I think to finalise squad. Brooks has been misfiring for 5 years now, Its over boy the moment we can get a replacement. Get someone for 2 years as I suspect Madden is at least a year away and has been given a further year to develop.

We need a second hooker on the bench
Liddle will be targeted all game
They will run forwards at him till he drops
Then we have Mbye at hooker
Shut the gates

I wouldnt object if they put Simpkin on the interchange.

 

[gallagher]

As good as we could have done.

 

[JC99]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

 

[mike]

AJ Shouldn’t be there. His effort stunk last round. He can consider himself extremely fortunate.

I think it is reasonably clear at this point that Madge talks a good game, but is fairly weak when it actually comes to changes. Even BJ has been given number 19 rather than a 'go shake hands with the reserves coach' style dumping Bennet hands out.

AJ, Brooks, MCK, Garner...Madge has never left anyone out for more than a week.

Hate to say it...but he is all talk.

Literally all he did last year was drop players and it's been two games and he's dropping players already. He's not afraid to do it at all, but with Talau at centre who do we have for wing? Doubt he wants to mess with the spine too much either.

He never actually dumped anyone though. He just recycled through them. He leaves players out for a week, they do nothing to rectify their flaws..and back they come.

That is not 'dropping' players. He also rarely goes outside his base 20. It is always just bring back Chee Kam or give Packer his 8th shot.

There's only so many players to choose from... he would bring players in give them a few games and if they didn't perform they would be gone. Rarely was it a player out for one week and then they'd be back.

It's not like our reserve grade was doing well last season to warrant them being selected.

That is probably our greatest problem actually...reggies have not put pressure for ages. Absolutely ages.

Even now...0 and 2.

Madden poor.

Would help if they won a few and we had some backs down there excelling.

At the moment there's only 2-3 guys in reserves impressing. Seyfarth but he wasn't ready last year, Tuki but he's barely played league and Jake Simpkins but he's very young and raw too

With the only NSW cup game I watched it would be Seyfarth that comes the closest to NRL. I wouldn't say impressive but solid and at least he put in. The others are not ready yet.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

Why does everyone want to bring in Simpkin , to a team with no confidence , and lacking an identity? Let’s win a couple of games , reset the season , and then talk about debuting him.

 

[the_third]

I would be putting Laurie at halfback instead of Brooks with Mbye at fullback where he trained the house down in pre season

Why would you play our best player of the first two rounds, Laurie, out of position. Laurie is clearly our best fullback.

Reckon he could play hooker. Maybe lock, he’s elusive and a great ball player.

Just get on the Oportos diet and he’s a monty

 

[izotope]

Teams not that bad

Maybe
plus Simpkins
minus Brooks
minus AJ

But who replaces Brooks and mbye is definitely in our best 17.
AJ yardage was good just needs to find some mitts

 

[avocadoontoast]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

Why does everyone want to bring in Simpkin , to a team with no confidence , and lacking an identity? Let’s win a couple of games , reset the season , and then talk about debuting him.

Liddle can’t play 80 and Simpkin will add some spark which we’re lacking

 

[Madge]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

Why does everyone want to bring in Simpkin , to a team with no confidence , and lacking an identity? Let’s win a couple of games , reset the season , and then talk about debuting him.

Liddle can’t play 80 and Simpkin will add some spark which we’re lacking

I agree with involving Simpkin on the bench. He is a confident kid who brings a heap of energy with his running game. A player that can break the game open from the bench. He will feature on the bench throughout the year.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

Why does everyone want to bring in Simpkin , to a team with no confidence , and lacking an identity? Let’s win a couple of games , reset the season , and then talk about debuting him.

Liddle can’t play 80 and Simpkin will add some spark which we’re lacking

But the kids 19 . Maybe we won’t ruin him like we did , say brooks , by doing exactly this , and rushing the kid . I’m fine with holding him off as long as we can . If it means we have this gun 9 for the next 10-15 years .

 

[JC99]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

Why does everyone want to bring in Simpkin , to a team with no confidence , and lacking an identity? Let’s win a couple of games , reset the season , and then talk about debuting him.

Liddle can’t play 80 and Simpkin will add some spark which we’re lacking

But the kids 19 . Maybe we won’t ruin him like we did , say brooks , by doing exactly this , and rushing the kid . I’m fine with holding him off as long as we can . If it means we have this gun 9 for the next 10-15 years .

It's hard. I would like to see Simpkin get a run but like you said you don't want to rush kids in. Madge is normally a decent judge of when rookies are ready, he will play sometime this year and no doubt have ridiculous expectations on him

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The good:

• dropped BJ
• we don’t have 2 rookie forwards replacing 2 experienced forwards

The bad:

• AJ should have been dropped (Tommy T to left wing, Mybe to left centre and Simkin debut as utility)

Why does everyone want to bring in Simpkin , to a team with no confidence , and lacking an identity? Let’s win a couple of games , reset the season , and then talk about debuting him.

Liddle can’t play 80 and Simpkin will add some spark which we’re lacking

But the kids 19 . Maybe we won’t ruin him like we did , say brooks , by doing exactly this , and rushing the kid . I’m fine with holding him off as long as we can . If it means we have this gun 9 for the next 10-15 years .

It's hard. I would like to see Simpkin get a run but like you said you don't want to rush kids in. Madge is normally a decent judge of when rookies are ready, he will play sometime this year and no doubt have ridiculous expectations on him

That’s the thing I’m worried about . This idea the kid is going to be our saviour . Get these guys in the team now firing , and bring him in as a complimentary piece . IMO everyone needs to STFU about rushing this kid , as right now I wouldn’t introduce anyone I value in my juniors . As the fans are out for blood , and anything that isn’t a 3 game winning streak is going to fly right now . Emotions are high . There’s tension in the air everywhere ,outside the club , I can only imagine the rocket these guys have got this week .

 

[JayT]

This game is pretty scary for me! I can handle being outplayed by Raiders or Roosters. This games different. Eep