Wests Tigers V NZ Warriors Trial *Live Thread..

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Corey Rosser
NRL.com reporter
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Sun 1 Mar 2020, 01:47 PM
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A knee strain suffered by Wests Tigers utility Moses Mbye took some of the gloss off an otherwise impressive 20-6 win over the Warriors in Sunday's trial in Rotorua.

A new-look right edge featuring off-season recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua, plus powerhouse wing David Nofoaluma, stole the show in a workmanlike performance.

Mbye left the field for a HIA in the 13th minute after a heavy collision while attempting to make a tackle. He passed the HIA but it was then discovered he also suffered a knee strain. He did not return.
Speaking after the game, Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire said Mbye would undergo scans but he's expecting him to be fit for round one selection.

The Leilua siblings and fellow Samoa international Nofoaluma combined to cause constant headaches for the Warriors, breaking the line on multiple occasions and scoring twice via Nofoaluma.

The Warriors didn't finish the match unscathed, with star fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck failing to return for the second half after suffering an ankle strain.

 

[Yossarian]

Joey Leilua is shaping to be a pivotal signing. Big and mobile - he looks a considerable upgrade on Esan...

 

[Jimmy]

Plz Madge if Mbye ain’t fit don’t rush him in, momo is a fine replacement as a centre and goal kicker...no need for Mbye to be hurt even more like last year

 

[voice_of_reason]

There’s no defending Nofa there mate. Regardless of a 3 on 2 rushing up past the ball and tackling no one is a poor play. He needs to stay in the defensive line and slide across, much bigger chance of defending the try doing that And Joey didn’t look happy with him after it.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm afraid you can't just say "regardless of a 3 on 2" as if it doesn't matter. It's first grade - a team with a 3 on 2 overlap should score. There was an overlap from the play the ball and all the winger can do is try to take an intercept or spoil the final pass. If he slides out they score on the inside.

Blaming the winger when there's an overlap is like blaming the number 11 batsmen when the middle order have failed.

I don't understand why people still seem happy to do it even when it can be demonstrated to be not the case.

 

[JC99]

There’s no defending Nofa there mate. Regardless of a 3 on 2 rushing up past the ball and tackling no one is a poor play. He needs to stay in the defensive line and slide across, much bigger chance of defending the try doing that And Joey didn’t look happy with him after it.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm afraid you can't just say "regardless of a 3 on 2" as if it doesn't matter. It's first grade - a team with a 3 on 2 overlap should score. There was an overlap from the play the ball and all the winger can do is try to take an intercept or spoil the final pass. If he slides out they score on the inside.

Blaming the winger when there's an overlap is like blaming the number 11 batsmen when the middle order have failed.

I don't understand why people still seem happy to do it even when it can be demonstrated to be not the case.

I’m not blaming the overlap on Nofa, I’m just saying he made the WORST possible decision in that situation and there are other ways he could’ve defended to possible stop the try. Sliding over to his opposite winger or pushing up after a pass is thrown is a far better option than just rushing up past the footy and leaving his wing completely unmarked. Was a terrible read from him.

 

[weststigers]

Nofo scares me, still can't put up with his poor reads in defence

I'd go Douehi to fullback, Corey to right wing.

Doueihi looks pedestrian

He’s looked pretty good to me...

Yeah, but you're not much of a judge


Well I am and he does look good. Safe under the high ball, good defence and doesn’t seem to make mistakes.

Can kick goals and is a very good 5/8. What is it about him that you don’t like?

Firstly, you claim to have some credentials to back your judgement...what are they?

Secondly, if you really want to know...he's slow. Made some stuttering, I don't know what to do now, run and is not a playmakers butt hole...If we really think him playing out the back is going to "ignite" our backline, then you need to watch closer. Further, we had so many offloads in the second half and I didn't see him backing up to hit a hole...Thompson does this well and as a result makes a lot of line breaks despite his size.

This is hardly surprising when you look at his NRL stats...30 games | 1 try | 2 try assists. Can't see those numbers increasing much this year.

Just because he didn't make any errors doesn't mean he is the answer to our problems...case in point, Joey Leilua...bit of a mixed bag, but the cost/benefit was in his favour today by miles. Doueihi didn't do anything wrong, but he was just making up numbers...

 

[Harvey]

There’s no defending Nofa there mate. Regardless of a 3 on 2 rushing up past the ball and tackling no one is a poor play. He needs to stay in the defensive line and slide across, much bigger chance of defending the try doing that And Joey didn’t look happy with him after it.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm afraid you can't just say "regardless of a 3 on 2" as if it doesn't matter. It's first grade - a team with a 3 on 2 overlap should score. There was an overlap from the play the ball and all the winger can do is try to take an intercept or spoil the final pass. If he slides out they score on the inside.

Blaming the winger when there's an overlap is like blaming the number 11 batsmen when the middle order have failed.

I don't understand why people still seem happy to do it even when it can be demonstrated to be not the case.

I’m not blaming the overlap on Nofa, I’m just saying he made the WORST possible decision in that situation and there are other ways he could’ve defended to possible stop the try. Sliding over to his opposite winger or pushing up after a pass is thrown is a far better option than just rushing up past the footy and leaving his wing completely unmarked. Was a terrible read from him.

There was an overlap, but Nofa's reaction was not good. Him and BJ did not work together in that BJ tried to stop and slide out, while Nofa rushed up. He actually finished up standing almost directly in front of BJ.

 

[Spartan117]

Just watched replay online. Lots to like.

Welc BJ. Already we look like a team thats improved significantly.

 

[voice_of_reason]

I’m not blaming the overlap on Nofa, I’m just saying he made the WORST possible decision in that situation and there are other ways he could’ve defended to possible stop the try. Sliding over to his opposite winger or pushing up after a pass is thrown is a far better option than just rushing up past the footy and leaving his wing completely unmarked. Was a terrible read from him.

You're blaming nofo but conceding the overlap wasn't his fault. The overlap is the ONLY reason they scored. If there's no overlap there's no issue. We were short, they scored, it's hardly a surprise.

But as I said, it's fine if we disagree.

 

[Tigerboy]

There’s no defending Nofa there mate. Regardless of a 3 on 2 rushing up past the ball and tackling no one is a poor play. He needs to stay in the defensive line and slide across, much bigger chance of defending the try doing that And Joey didn’t look happy with him after it.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm afraid you can't just say "regardless of a 3 on 2" as if it doesn't matter. It's first grade - a team with a 3 on 2 overlap should score. There was an overlap from the play the ball and all the winger can do is try to take an intercept or spoil the final pass. If he slides out they score on the inside.

Blaming the winger when there's an overlap is like blaming the number 11 batsmen when the middle order have failed.

I don't understand why people still seem happy to do it even when it can be demonstrated to be not the case.

I’m not blaming the overlap on Nofa, I’m just saying he made the WORST possible decision in that situation and there are other ways he could’ve defended to possible stop the try. Sliding over to his opposite winger or pushing up after a pass is thrown is a far better option than just rushing up past the footy and leaving his wing completely unmarked. Was a terrible read from him.


There was an overlap, but Nofa's reaction was not good. Him and BJ did not work together in that BJ tried to stop and slide out, while Nofa rushed up. He actually finished up standing almost directly in front of BJ.

Ahoy, captain Oblivious.

The daggers received from BJ were there for all to see, the Warriors had a tonne of ball at the time, and the resilience shown by that side of the field leads me to believe smart players like Momi or Mbye could replicate that on another edge. He may have made up for it with two tries against a bog average Warriors side thanks to lots of help.

The initial concern that has been addressed on repeat was clear today. Not the inside man but David Nofoaluma. Madge won’t have it.

Telling you!

 

[diedpretty]

We should be on the hunt for another top notch centre for the left hand side. Our left side attack is pretty pedestrian. even with Mbye on there was no real wow factor. Hopefully Momorovski is the answer.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Nofo scares me, still can't put up with his poor reads in defence

I'd go Douehi to fullback, Corey to right wing.

Doueihi looks pedestrian

He’s looked pretty good to me...

Yeah, but you're not much of a judge


Well I am and he does look good. Safe under the high ball, good defence and doesn’t seem to make mistakes.

Can kick goals and is a very good 5/8. What is it about him that you don’t like?

Firstly, you claim to have some credentials to back your judgement...what are they?

Secondly, if you really want to know...he's slow. Made some stuttering, I don't know what to do now, run and is not a playmakers butt hole...If we really think him playing out the back is going to "ignite" our backline, then you need to watch closer. Further, we had so many offloads in the second half and I didn't see him backing up to hit a hole...Thompson does this well and as a result makes a lot of line breaks despite his size.

This is hardly surprising when you look at his NRL stats...30 games | 1 try | 2 try assists. Can't see those numbers increasing much this year.

Just because he didn't make any errors doesn't mean he is the answer to our problems...case in point, Joey Leilua...bit of a mixed bag, but the cost/benefit was in his favour today by miles. Doueihi didn't do anything wrong, but he was just making up numbers...

You call me a bad judge and then come up with that nonsense! ?

 

[twentyforty]

There’s no defending Nofa there mate. Regardless of a 3 on 2 rushing up past the ball and tackling no one is a poor play. He needs to stay in the defensive line and slide across, much bigger chance of defending the try doing that And Joey didn’t look happy with him after it.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm afraid you can't just say "regardless of a 3 on 2" as if it doesn't matter. It's first grade - a team with a 3 on 2 overlap should score. There was an overlap from the play the ball and all the winger can do is try to take an intercept or spoil the final pass. If he slides out they score on the inside.

Blaming the winger when there's an overlap is like blaming the number 11 batsmen when the middle order have failed.

I don't understand why people still seem happy to do it even when it can be demonstrated to be not the case.

I’m not blaming the overlap on Nofa, I’m just saying he made the WORST possible decision in that situation and there are other ways he could’ve defended to possible stop the try. Sliding over to his opposite winger or pushing up after a pass is thrown is a far better option than just rushing up past the footy and leaving his wing completely unmarked. Was a terrible read from him.

The problem was, Nofa obviously thought the ball was going out wide behind the decoy runner and as such was looking for the intercept. When the ball instead was passed flat he realised too late his error of judgement. A decision he did not need to make but has made many times over the years.
I will concede that the overlap made Nofa react in panic, but I won’t agree that he should keep that in his game.
I’ve watched him do similar countless times.

 

[Tigerboy]

Nofo scares me, still can't put up with his poor reads in defence

I'd go Douehi to fullback, Corey to right wing.

Doueihi looks pedestrian

He’s looked pretty good to me...

Yeah, but you're not much of a judge


Well I am and he does look good. Safe under the high ball, good defence and doesn’t seem to make mistakes.

Can kick goals and is a very good 5/8. What is it about him that you don’t like?

Firstly, you claim to have some credentials to back your judgement...what are they?

Secondly, if you really want to know...he's slow. Made some stuttering, I don't know what to do now, run and is not a playmakers butt hole...If we really think him playing out the back is going to "ignite" our backline, then you need to watch closer. Further, we had so many offloads in the second half and I didn't see him backing up to hit a hole...Thompson does this well and as a result makes a lot of line breaks despite his size.

This is hardly surprising when you look at his NRL stats...30 games | 1 try | 2 try assists. Can't see those numbers increasing much this year.

Just because he didn't make any errors doesn't mean he is the answer to our problems...case in point, Joey Leilua...bit of a mixed bag, but the cost/benefit was in his favour today by miles. Doueihi didn't do anything wrong, but he was just making up numbers...

You call me a bad judge and then come up with that nonsense! ?

Legitimately seems like statistical info, Avo? But I do feel much safer than with Corey @ 1

 

[innsaneink]

Our try's looked very soft...only seen highlites... . Glad they played well tho... I'm guessing we need a fair bit of improvement against stronger opposition

 

[Demps]

So, anyone else think Nofo is gonna push for top try scorer this year ?

With Lethal Leilua inside him setting him up?


Got a feel he will defo be for OUR CLUB, but hopefully in the comp too.... setting us up for some finals action?

 

[Spartan117]

Also.

Billy at 9 for mine. not as sexy but more consistent

 

[TSupps05]

I hate to say it but i just can't see Rowdy making the 17. Also Eisenhuth shouldn't be there either with ET really upping his game recently

 

[Demps]

I hate to say it but i just can't see Rowdy making the 17. Also Eisenhuth shouldn't be there either with ET really upping his game recently

Clear as day mate.
I'm with you!

 

[TSupps05]

So, anyone else think Nofo is gonna push for top try scorer this year ?

With Lethal Leilua inside him setting him up?


Got a feel he will defo be for OUR CLUB, but hopefully in the comp too.... setting us up for some finals action?

I already put a cheeky $20 on it after this trial. Playing outside both leilua's anything is possible