What happened with Eisenhuth?

[crazycat]

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/nrl-2020-matt-eisenhuth-penrith-panthers-rugby-league-signs-contract-wests-tigers-ivan-cleary/19nzwu1j2j9sp1nj504c6pg0ru

So he leaves us. Fine. For Penrith, I guess better prospects and your 28 you may want a premiereship.
I guess too he knows Cleary so he links back up with an old coach.

Except I guess why Penrith is taking him. His stats really don't seem to liken him to their side. Although he is a player we had that was kinda at first grade level. He just seems to be a spare tyre for them, doubt he would even make the Penrith Bench.

Is this Cleary trying to make his Big 25+6 squad?

I am kinda sad to loose Eisenhuth. Yet we need first graders ideally top shelf players, so be it.

 

[Guest]

This is old news. He was out of contract with the WT and surplus to requirements.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He was alright, but as a staunch ET fan, I’m a bit more embittered about losing him. Great clubman, who could have been good to have around as depth for another season. I thought he had earned another season with some good form, but wasn’t to be. I’m stupified that Seyfarth got another contract. Must have connections.

 

[steve-o]

I think Eisenhuth does a good job of controlling the ruck and slowing down the opposition play-the-balls. He’s a starter in the weaker teams, bench player for middle-of-the-road teams, and surplus to requirements at the better teams. That said, I agree with the OP that Penrith seems an odd choice for him as I can’t see him getting a whole lot of game time. His style of play is the opposite to the Panthers’ power forward style.

 

[JC99]

He’ll be depth for Penrith. I’d be surprised if he plays more than 5 first grade games unless there’s serious injuries there

With Tamou and Stefano joining, and the emergence of McIntyre we didn’t really need Eiso.

 

[ancient_magpie]

Does anybody know whats happened with Sam Macintyre hes not listed in the top 30 squad

 

[JC99]

Does anybody know whats happened with Sam Macintyre hes not listed in the top 30 squad

Was never farewelled so good chance he’ll be here next season. People on here are saying he’s in negotiations or just about signed.

 

[Nelson]

I'd say their first choice pack at the start of the season will be something like:

8. JFH
10. Tetevano
11. Kikau
12. Martin
13. Yeo

14. Leota
15. Leniu
16. Capewell

Eisenhuth will probably be the next forward selected if there is an injury to any of those players, so he should get a fair bit of game time there.

 

[Guest]

Does anybody know whats happened with Sam Macintyre hes not listed in the top 30 squad

Apparently he has re-signed but has not been announced yet.

 

[crazycat]

I think Eisenhuth does a good job of controlling the ruck and slowing down the opposition play-the-balls. He’s a starter in the weaker teams, bench player for middle-of-the-road teams, and surplus to requirements at the better teams. That said, I agree with the OP that Penrith seems an odd choice for him as I can’t see him getting a whole lot of game time. His style of play is the opposite to the Panthers’ power forward style.

Same, except I see it the other way as an odd choice for Penrith. You get someone who is reasonably good depth(out of 17 depth), yet you have a stack of Juniors there. Surely they have people putting up their hands for first grade spots. Eisenhuth would add nothing as far as big experience, technique or skills to bring to the team.

Then again Ivan is known for the Big 17. A concept that was a good catchcry but a very bad roster development here.

 

[Tim Sheens]

See him as a much cheaper version of Tamou that allows them the dollars to keep another of their young stars.

 

[happy_tiger]

The Twuth is dead .....sad day ...Huth was very underrated ....hope you kill it at Penrith bar when you play us ...I could say to cheap shot Nate at every training session ...but I won't

 

[jirskyr]

Always liked Eisenhuth. Definitely an anti-Taumalolo weapon, one of the few footballers around who could stop JT one-one-one in front of his own posts.

If he didn't lack that bit of explosive power in attack he'd be a real asset. I still think they should have kept Huth on given all the value he gave this year, even after not being an initial first selection by Madge.

But I suppose you can only have so many fringe firsties going around and McIntyre is the new candidate with more potential upside.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Always liked Eisenhuth. Definitely an anti-Taumalolo weapon, one of the few footballers around who could stop JT one-one-one in front of his own posts.

If he didn't lack that bit of explosive power in attack he'd be a real asset. I still think they should have kept Huth on given all the value he gave this year, even after not being an initial first selection by Madge.

But I suppose you can only have so many fringe firsties going around and McIntyre is the new candidate with more potential upside.

agree, but for some reason, we always had too many players of that type, and now McIntyre and Sayforth are deemed to have more upside, 6 years younger and probably cheaper.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Always liked Eisenhuth. Definitely an anti-Taumalolo weapon, one of the few footballers around who could stop JT one-one-one in front of his own posts.

When you speak of stopping JT one-on-one I assume you are speaking about taking him high and wrapping the ball up.

I recall our only game against the Cows this year, in the first half JT made a charge at our line and Grant dropped him with a great legs tackle. In the second half, another charge at our line and Brooks dropped him with another great legs tackle.

I noticed this because I get frustrated in the modern game watching tacklers going high on powerful ball runners and watching them get marched up field. Observing Grant's and Brooks' tackles got me wondering how many metres JT would run if the first contact was around the legs. It would significantly reduce his run metres, but the ptbs would be too fast. I guess on balance it is best to go high.

I agree with your comments about Eisenhuth. I am sorry to see him go. I'm glad he has another gig at Penrith.

 

[jirskyr]

When you speak of stopping JT one-on-one I assume you are speaking about taking him high and wrapping the ball up.

Yes, to stop the offload.

 

[Russell]

When you speak of stopping JT one-on-one I assume you are speaking about taking him high and wrapping the ball up.

Yes, to stop the offload.

Very difficult to stop the offload from JT if you are a winger or a FB. Damage has been done by then.

Generally speaking, during the context of the game on a player like JT, it would be better to go low, if you succeed he is not dangerous in that play anymore and has made limited metres, if he off loads it is going to be to someone who is less dangerous with still limited metres.

If you try to go high by yourself JT will carry you at a minimum of 10 metres, maybe further and could be over the try line.

Just my opinion, I would always go low and let another team mate or mates go high.

 

[twentyforty]

Huth has gone back home.

 

[jirskyr]

When you speak of stopping JT one-on-one I assume you are speaking about taking him high and wrapping the ball up.

Yes, to stop the offload.

Very difficult to stop the offload from JT if you are a winger or a FB. Damage has been done by then.

Generally speaking, during the context of the game on a player like JT, it would be better to go low, if you succeed he is not dangerous in that play anymore and has made limited metres, if he off loads it is going to be to someone who is less dangerous with still limited metres.

If you try to go high by yourself JT will carry you at a minimum of 10 metres, maybe further and could be over the try line.

Just my opinion, I would always go low and let another team mate or mates go high.

My point is Eisenhuth could go high and stop Taumololo, both forward momentum and offload. Defensively I thought Huth was a very good asset around the ruck and defending the line, he just lacked that explosive offensive ability.

Certainly other blokes can tackle JT low but that's not what you do when you are defending your line 5m out, not without support up high; he'll just reach out or offload.

 

[Russell]

When you speak of stopping JT one-on-one I assume you are speaking about taking him high and wrapping the ball up.

Yes, to stop the offload.

Very difficult to stop the offload from JT if you are a winger or a FB. Damage has been done by then.

Generally speaking, during the context of the game on a player like JT, it would be better to go low, if you succeed he is not dangerous in that play anymore and has made limited metres, if he off loads it is going to be to someone who is less dangerous with still limited metres.

If you try to go high by yourself JT will carry you at a minimum of 10 metres, maybe further and could be over the try line.

Just my opinion, I would always go low and let another team mate or mates go high.

My point is Eisenhuth could go high and stop Taumololo, both forward momentum and offload. Defensively I thought Huth was a very good asset around the ruck and defending the line, he just lacked that explosive offensive ability.

Certainly other blokes can tackle JT low but that's not what you do when you are defending your line 5m out, not without support up high; he'll just reach out or offload.

I wasn't talking 5m out from the line. Take your point close to the line though.