What I know today....Tiger Torch

[jirskyr]

Naiqama would of been better off going right and forcing Koroibete to go right which then should of signalled JAC to go left (well it would of been the only place JAC could go ) and I bet he would of outrun the other defenders if he catches the pass , similar in a way to the Richards try in the GF , when Marshall sucks Bowen in to make the tackle on him and once committed throws the pass

Oh you mean one of the all-time great flick passes, that's all it takes? Shame on you modern centres!

 

[happy_tiger]

Naiqama would of been better off going right and forcing Koroibete to go right which then should of signalled JAC to go left (well it would of been the only place JAC could go ) and I bet he would of outrun the other defenders if he catches the pass , similar in a way to the Richards try in the GF , when Marshall sucks Bowen in to make the tackle on him and once committed throws the pass

Oh you mean one of the all-time great flick passes, that's all it takes? Shame on you modern centres!

No I was meaning everything before that :laughing:

The modern day centre in most cases has nothing on the centres of yesteryear

Maybe Roberts but his speeds creates most of his opportunities

I think back to the OConnor's , Rodgers ,Cronin's ,Meninga's ,Renouf's

They could create chances through pure skill and put their wingers away

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Oh God No , Not sue

It was the biggest most dumb decision to let Tapau go, we cant afford another blunder letting a good player go.. Surely NOT !!

I like Sue, but he drops a lot of ball and gives away a lot of penalties.

And goes lost in quite. a few games

 

[Chevy]

Couldn't agree more with these modern centres being clueless about setting up an outside man,they all do these slick ball movement drills at training and pregame its a pity they dont know the reason why they are doing it,simple things like in and aways are lost with all backs these days,wingers should also know when to come inside if the centre is cramping them for room and inject themselves ala John Ferguson style into the backline if the ball is not going their way,only Valentine Holmes and the Melbourne wingers do this atm.

 

[magpiecol]

Oh God No , Not sue

It was the biggest most dumb decision to let Tapau go, we cant afford another blunder letting a good player go.. Surely NOT !!

I like Sue, but he drops a lot of ball and gives away a lot of penalties.

And goes lost in quite. a few games

And turns his back on the play the ball!!

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Oh God No , Not sue

It was the biggest most dumb decision to let Tapau go, we cant afford another blunder letting a good player go.. Surely NOT !!

I like Sue, but he drops a lot of ball and gives away a lot of penalties.

And goes lost in quite. a few games

And turns his back on the play the ball!!

There were a few guilty of this om Saturday
Farah was the only one who was following the ball

 

[Nelson]

Couldn't agree more with these modern centres being clueless about setting up an outside man,they all do these slick ball movement drills at training and pregame its a pity they dont know the reason why they are doing it,simple things like in and aways are lost with all backs these days,wingers should also know when to come inside if the centre is cramping them for room and inject themselves ala John Ferguson style into the backline if the ball is not going their way,only Valentine Holmes and the Melbourne wingers do this atm.

Takairangi does a good job of setting up his winger. He's got a good in and away that gets the winger interested and then has good enough hands to deliver clean ball to his winger. People seem really keen on a strike centre - a centre that will just break the line themselves with speed, power or footwork like Roberts, Dugan or Jennings - but a solid defensive centre that works well in combination with his winger would arguably be just as good. Semi was far more effective last year with Taka playing at left centre than with Jennings there this year, and as a whole that edge was more dangerous last year.

 

[ricksen]

Remember we actually signed Taka last year before JT decided to pull out of the deal.

 

[happy_tiger]

FT is spot on re Elijah Taylor though his signing is not quite locked in as it all depends on Farah / Cherrrington. Te Mare Martin and Cherrington are very tight and the Panthers see them as 2/4 of their spine from next year. Cherrington has let it be known he will stay with the Tigers but wants a guarantee that he will be 1st choice hooker next year, the fly in the ointment is Farah! All coaching staff have him locked in as their No1 starting hooker, for what its worth I agree. Seve was lead to believe he would be given a crack at centre this year and subsequently trained the house down, then told he would play in Ron Massey cup, he then left as he knew Milone was the anointed / sponsored one! Depending on the outcome of SOS if NSW were to win Farah will call time this year ( he will play games 1 &2 - should NSW lose both he will be replaced, Daley has been upfront with both Farah & Taylor)
First signs of tension among coaching staff re team selections, principally centre & bench with all assistant coaches calling for Rankin to play centre ( until Simona returns and then dropped to fullback in NSW Cup) and Addo Carr to play preferred left wing & Noffa back on the right wing. Watson Helata whose sprint times are better than Peni has also been put forward - quite vigorously by one coach in particular. Lovett it is agreed by all bar Taylor can provide an effective 20 minute spell but nothing more. Rod Griffin leads the offloads in the NSW Cup - this 2nd phase play has all but disappeared from our NRL team - a point noted time and again by assistant coaches! Rod Griffin himself is not the solution but at least 6 good offloads per half from Woods / Sirro would be a start - both were excellent in opposed training sessions.The treatment of MCK has been appalling and his form / fitness / training application has begun to slip. Moses groin is a worry so therefore Rankin gets in the team as goalkicker. Other goalkicking options are equally poor outside of Drinkwater (75%) who has been in poor form on NSW Cup; Littlejohn whose form has been solid continues to practice and is approaching 70% accuracy in training / normally translates to 65% playing.
In pre season player profiles all players were asked to list their strengths / weaknesses; preferred positions: Rankin's were : 5/8; 1/2; fullback; centre; wing!
Brooks & Moses are now virtually certain to take up 1 year options in their favour to remain at the tigers for 2017; both are now very hesitant about committing beyond 2017 until coaching situation is resolved. There really hasn't been any significant big $ interest from elsewhere! Bulldogs will take either at $500k, both will receive a minimum $600k to remain + TPA.
cLUB IS STILL TRYING TO GET THEM SIGNED UP FOR 3 YEARS, but would be happy to put the matter ( temporarily) to bed for a year if they can get them signed up asap.
As indicated previously Melbourne have now formalized an offer to JAC - 2 years $120k / $180k.
Korobete would return to the Tigers for $360k! Tigers asked the question with $280k in mind.

Taylor will depart this year ( 2016) but only if the Tigers can secure Cleary who now has become wary of signing, believing the Warriors may be a better fit. Once current Chair Marina Go / Board moves on later this year Taylor will lose his current steadfast support, and will definitely not remain beyond 2017\. Current Board seems to think that only Cleary would be a better option than Taylor whilst he remains under contract until end of 2017.
Taylor does still enjoy overwhelming majority support of the playing group with a handful of exceptions. I cannot fault or find any blame attributable to Farah re any unrest in the ranks; as previously stated he works more closely with Craig Sandercock than Taylor.
It is well known that we are the worst performing team in the league over the last 16 years - Pascoe is hellbent on eliminating any more 'rebuilding' excuses. Both he and Mark O'neil believe our current roster only needs a few tweaks to secure consistent top 8 appearances. This was the message delivered to sponsors last week. Separate one on one unofficial meetings were held with Harry T.
I don't have the right or expertise to put forward my own petty opinions but was pleasantly surprised to be asked last week by Mark for my views. He wanted to know after 4 years what I thought were the 3 major impediments to success confronting the club, so I simply regurgitated my views along with those of my colleagues and a few of those expressed here when I pop in from time to time:
1.No accountability - nobody ever gets dropped for poor performances.
2\. Hand in hand with #1 bizarre team selections, players left to languish in lower grades before losing interest / form and then move on.
3\. Poor club / fan interface _: suffice to say Mark now visits the WTF!
I could go on but that would involve my opinion/s, not facts.
The mood within the team / club on the whole is positive though 2016 amongst us 'realists' in the support staff is now all but written off. I emphasise that is not the view of the players, but with early signs of fractures within the coaching ranks I am a little concerned.
The future is still bright that first light at the end of the tunnel may be an oncoming locomotive, but behind that I still believe we will all need heavy duty sunnies because soon the tunnel will be split asunder and the stunning glare of success will be too much to take.
Until next time don't be afraid of the dark, Tiger Torch.

Hi TT

Just decided to reread your post

Based on what you are saying Penrith are looking at offloading James Segeyaro for Cherrington ??

Stay with me for a second , we offload Cherrington and Farah and could offer Segeyaro say 650 k and could come out with say 400+ k spare (assuming that Cherry is on 150-180 k ??)

Penrith couldn't be serious could they , Cherry for Segeyaro ??

And if O'Neill and Pascoe think we only need a few tweaks , they need to check under the bonnet first …... God help us , we are a second hand Victa lawn mower up against Hobbo's Skyline

 

[Geo]

I'd back the Victa with Hobbo at the wheel of the Skyline…

 

[supercoach]

Happy your right, a few tweaks,the way I see it we need a couple of Shane Warne massive tweaks,followed by plenty of other tweaks.

Do you get the feeling the spin doctors are preparing us for a few more reject signings!

Sad to say it but it is nearly time to shut up shop,every year we go a little further backwards with no sign of us making any progress. If we were a biussness we would have been wound up or taken over a few years a go

 

[tigeress]

Oh God No , Not sue

It was the biggest most dumb decision to let Tapau go, we cant afford another blunder letting a good player go.. Surely NOT !!

You can't keep them if they don't want to stay. I don't think he was a good fit for our club anyway. He didn't always put in 100%.

 

[hobbo]

I'd back the Victa with Hobbo at the wheel of the Skyline…

The left hand lane is reserved for the meek
:smiley:

 

[gallagher]

Happy your right, a few tweaks,the way I see it we need a couple of Shane Warne massive tweaks,followed by plenty of other tweaks.

Do you get the feeling the spin doctors are preparing us for a few more reject signings!

Sad to say it but it is nearly time to shut up shop,every year we go a little further backwards with no sign of us making any progress. If we were a biussness we would have been wound up or taken over a few years a go

I wanna see what wests do with full control first. If they dont make some smart decisions and put some serious coin into the place then we may aswell sell the license off.
Maybe that's the plan after all.

 

[Dingo]

This Tiger Torch guy is probably a 15 year old having a massive laugh right now

 

[stevetiger]

This Tiger Torch guy is probably a 15 year old having a massive laugh right now

That would be funny wouldn't it.

 

[tigermac88]

Oh God No , Not sue

It was the biggest most dumb decision to let Tapau go, we cant afford another blunder letting a good player go.. Surely NOT !!

I like Sue, but he drops a lot of ball and gives away a lot of penalties.

And goes lost in quite. a few games

And turns his back on the play the ball!!

This is how players are coached in the modern game col to turn their backs to the opposition when they're getting onside… The theory is they can get onside quicker if they're running forward than if they're running backwards like the old days. In saying that though they are supposed to be looking over their inside shoulder at the play the ball whilst getting onside.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

I like Sue, but he drops a lot of ball and gives away a lot of penalties.

And goes lost in quite. a few games

And turns his back on the play the ball!!

This is how players are coached in the modern game col to turn their backs to the opposition when they're getting onside… The theory is they can get onside quicker if they're running forward than if they're running backwards like the old days. In saying that though they are supposed to be looking over their inside shoulder at the play the ball whilst getting onside.

Makes perfect sense

 

[Harvey]

I like Sue, but he drops a lot of ball and gives away a lot of penalties.

And goes lost in quite. a few games

And turns his back on the play the ball!!

This is how players are coached in the modern game col to turn their backs to the opposition when they're getting onside… The theory is they can get onside quicker if they're running forward than if they're running backwards like the old days. In saying that though they are supposed to be looking over their inside shoulder at the play the ball whilst getting onside.

And if they see someone coming they can stick their leg out and trip them

 

[tigermac88]

And goes lost in quite. a few games

And turns his back on the play the ball!!

This is how players are coached in the modern game col to turn their backs to the opposition when they're getting onside… The theory is they can get onside quicker if they're running forward than if they're running backwards like the old days. In saying that though they are supposed to be looking over their inside shoulder at the play the ball whilst getting onside.

And if they see someone coming they can stick their leg out and trip them

Hahaha that seems to be the go this season, once upon a time this was a send off offence.