What I know today....Tiger Torch

[CocaCola]

Honestly can't believe the fuss over JAC.

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[Russell]

the one that will hurt can you say whether they are a forward or a back?

Process of elimination?

It's not Cherrington, because TT already said "if he goes to Penrith". The only other potentially popular and grade-quality players who are off contract this year are MCK, JAC and Sauaso Sue. There are others off contract but I do not expect their departures to cause any uproar.

I am guessing it's not Sue because he is in the leadership group.

Could be one of the 20s kids, but I am guessing the player that "hurts to lose" is JAC or MCK.

Would have to pay more than 200,000 for him to top the Storm's offer.

Departures before the end of the season. For that to occur, it would either be as a trade or the player perhaps has received a huge offer which the club cannot match.

JAC has already been offered a contract by Melbourne who are losing Korobeite next season. So my guess is Josh Addo-Carr. If so, WT is in dire cap trouble if it cannot scrape another $50K to keep him.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The comment about Curtis Sironen and being able to play his natural game is interesting. Is it related to the comment about JT not being the right fit for the flamboyant roster? Stubborness or too rigid to alter his game plans/strategy to suit the roster we have?

I am not sure how you would utilise the natural game of shirking it out wide and leaving the work to other and turn it into a winning game plan, especially if everyone else then wants to play their natural game

Sironen's lack of metres is definitely not the coaches fault.

Neither is bludging on the edges and expecting the outside backs to do the grunt work.

 

[stevetiger]

The comment about Curtis Sironen and being able to play his natural game is interesting. Is it related to the comment about JT not being the right fit for the flamboyant roster? Stubborness or too rigid to alter his game plans/strategy to suit the roster we have?

I am not sure how you would utilise the natural game of shirking it out wide and leaving the work to other and turn it into a winning game plan, especially if everyone else then wants to play their natural game

Sironen's lack of metres is definitely not the coaches fault.

Neither is bludging on the edges and expecting the outside backs to do the grunt work.

I think we agree on this. Sironen has a lot of work to do to become a NRL level player. I think he can do it though.

 

[Bones]

Honestly can't believe the fuss over JAC.

From now on i feel he should be know as TNI (The ninth immortal).

Seriously though i doubt a guy who has played 1 NRL game leaving would hurt.

Woods, Tedesco, and Grant are must keep, the rest need to prove themselves as far as I'm concerned.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

 

[tsjonathan]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

yeah that was horrible positioning.

 

[happy_tiger]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

 

[batboy]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

Bit hard to identify the quickest chaser when they're behind you happy!!

It was a bit of fault on both…

- But very clever of Koro to get between both of them and bump JAC a little of his path...

 

[happy_tiger]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

Bit hard to identify the quickest chaser when they're behind you happy!!

It was a bit of fault on both…

- But very clever of Koro to get between both of them and bump JAC a little of his path...

Not really BB

A player who has some footy smarts should be able to work out who the player is from the direction he is coming from and you do have time to have a glance at who is coming , you still need to position your runner as well

And then you can always use the Stadium scoreboards as well to see who is coming

Kevin was at fault , he forces Koroibete to tackle him and offloads to JAC , honestly how hard ??

 

[batboy]

Or maybe they could send their mom a text watching at home to ask them who's coming from where….

 

[tiga4eva]

Or realise you're playing on a wet,rainy day and hold the ball since its Tackle 1 and score off the next tackle.

 

[jirskyr]

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

Bit hard to identify the quickest chaser when they're behind you happy!!

It was a bit of fault on both…

- But very clever of Koro to get between both of them and bump JAC a little of his path...

Not really BB

A player who has some footy smarts should be able to work out who the player is from the direction he is coming from and you do have time to have a glance at who is coming , you still need to position your runner as well

And then you can always use the Stadium scoreboards as well to see who is coming

Kevin was at fault , he forces Koroibete to tackle him and offloads to JAC , honestly how hard ??

I dunno Happy think you are being too harsh here.

Let's start by acknowledging that Koro was probably the fastest guy on the field from both sides. He chased Frozone from the right side, which is where JAC was supporting.

Now unless JAC can overtake Koro on the right before he reaches Kev, and then accelerate away from Koro with the footy, which we know he cannot, his only other option was to switch inside and run a diagonal line to be a pass distance to Kev's left.

So you are asking Kev to hold Koro off long enough for JAC to switch inside and power in-field, so he can draw Koro from his behind right, and put JAC away middle left, assuming Koro actually commits to a tackle and doesn't just switch to JAC once the ball is thrown.

It was ugly but Koro is too fast and did exactly the right thing, overtaking the support and getting in the way of any pass.

Kev really should have just taken the tackle, that was his biggest error, and JAC really could have caught the footy, but it looks like his hands are dodgy.

 

[happy_tiger]

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

Bit hard to identify the quickest chaser when they're behind you happy!!

It was a bit of fault on both…

- But very clever of Koro to get between both of them and bump JAC a little of his path...

Not really BB

A player who has some footy smarts should be able to work out who the player is from the direction he is coming from and you do have time to have a glance at who is coming , you still need to position your runner as well

And then you can always use the Stadium scoreboards as well to see who is coming

Kevin was at fault , he forces Koroibete to tackle him and offloads to JAC , honestly how hard ??

I dunno Happy think you are being too harsh here.

Let's start by acknowledging that Koro was probably the fastest guy on the field from both sides. He chased Frozone from the right side, which is where JAC was supporting.

Now unless JAC can overtake Koro on the right before he reaches Kev, and then accelerate away from Koro with the footy, which we know he cannot, his only other option was to switch inside and run a diagonal line to be a pass distance to Kev's left.

So you are asking Kev to hold Koro off long enough for JAC to switch inside and power in-field, so he can draw Koro from his behind right, and put JAC away middle left, assuming Koro actually commits to a tackle and doesn't just switch to JAC once the ball is thrown.

It was ugly but Koro is too fast and did exactly the right thing, overtaking the support and getting in the way of any pass.

Kev really should have just taken the tackle, that was his biggest error, and JAC really could have caught the footy, but it looks like his hands are dodgy.

All I'm saying is the golden rule when you are getting chased down to help set up your support players is to force the fastest bloke to tackle you and then look for your support

Naiqama would of been better off going right and forcing Koroibete to go right which then should of signalled JAC to go left (well it would of been the only place JAC could go ) and I bet he would of outrun the other defenders if he catches the pass , similar in a way to the Richards try in the GF , when Marshall sucks Bowen in to make the tackle on him and once committed throws the pass

 

[magpiecol]

Or he could have kicked the ball ahead and then it would have been an interesting foot race.

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

One player leaving that would hurt could be Nofa….

 

[happy_tiger]

Or he could have kicked the ball ahead and then it would have been an interesting foot race.

But why Col ??

That's the lowest percentage play

What I suggested above a quality NYC player should understand and be able to carry out with ease

Its not rocket science and that's what concerns me with a lot of things that WT's players do

Growing up as kids you are taught so many little things in the game that should set you up for life as a rugby league player , yet so many try and over complicate the game

If we asked a WT's player what they should in a particular situation I reckon we would be shocked by the answers

It should be second nature

 

[tigermac88]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

That's exactly what I said in another thread and got shot down…. You are 100% right in your opinion on this happy

 

[happy_tiger]

It's not the first time people have lost it over a player. I can throw names out like John Grant and Mr T just off the top of my head. Not saying JAC won't be a good player, cos there does seem to be ability there, but it was clear as day watching the Storm game that he could do with a yr in state cup. The way he almost tackled Kev himself after Kev took the intercept surely was enough for the alarm bells to go off telling you he is not ready to be a regular first grader.

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

That's exactly what I said in another thread and got shot down…. You are 100% right in your opinion on this happy

No mate you are 100 % right TM88

I said it a few weeks ago , very few centres in the modern game have a clue what to do once they get into open ground

 

[tigermac88]

yeah that was horrible positioning.

That was Kev's fault pure and simple

In those situations you pick out the quickest chaser and make him commit to you ie Koroibete

Then it's a matter of Kev hitting JAC with the pass and we score

That's exactly what I said in another thread and got shot down…. You are 100% right in your opinion on this happy

No mate you are 100 % right TM88

I said it a few weeks ago , very few centres in the modern game have a clue what to do once they get into open ground

It is a centres job to put his winger into the position to score and it's the wingers job to finish… Kev gave JAC nowhere to go but to stay outside with the direction he was running, and if you can't put your winger into a position to score you hold the ball plain and simple