What is acceptable?
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happy_tiger
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@supercoach said:
Lets take the same players for positions for dragons and see how they go . No Boyd (MacKinnon) , No Nightingale(Tuquiri) No Gasnier (Lawrence) Fien injured but playing (Farah) Creagh (Ellis) playing Soward at Fullback (Moltzen) . Lets see how they go now ???
I think it is very difficult to put a definitive gauge on what consitutes success. Sure it is easy to say top 4 finish, GF appearances etc but with issues like the salary cap and injuries, success can be sometimes hard to accurately quantify. I think it just as important that given the club has invested in Sheens for the next four years, he leave the club set up for success for the future as well.
Some of the criteria should also include:
The teams performance should be of such quality as to attract corporate sponsorship
The club should be viewed as an attractive place to play for the top echelon of players
Off field culture is as important os on-field performances
Formal structure for the development of juniors
An early transition period of 12+ months in which a suitable coach is chosen
Some of the criteria should also include:
The teams performance should be of such quality as to attract corporate sponsorship
The club should be viewed as an attractive place to play for the top echelon of players
Off field culture is as important os on-field performances
Formal structure for the development of juniors
An early transition period of 12+ months in which a suitable coach is chosen
innsaneink
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Good post coopy
@happy tiger said:
Yes…WE...is a very big part in all of Sheens post match press conferences...he includes himself with the players...thus he does accept the blame.....
that is lost on some I think happy T...
I would like to see some movement to get some quality players in our backline.
Lote is not getting any younger, Utai is not long term, Brown, Ryan, Daniella?, Latu, not what you would call top line players with the capabilities to represent in SOO, Aust or even city/country.
Ayshford, to me, is a dead set lock forward, who will take over from Heinington in the near future. So that leaves us with, Lawrence and who knows if he will come back as good as he was or even if he will come back at all? remember Mr T.
McKinnon is on his last legs and no matter what some people may believe, Moltzen is not the answer to our fullback problem. Maybe Sheens is giving Mullaney some time to get used to the extra pace etc. in higher grades before he might call him up. I think that he would be a very good custodian.
So we need a couple of centres, a couple of wingers. These players need to be able to put pressure on our incumbents if they all come back fit and healthy. We need some size and some speed. I have not seen much of the lower grades this year, but from the results, there does not seem to be any players pushing for first grade.
Am I wrong?
Does anybody know players from other clubs/overseas, who are available and may fit the bill?
Lote is not getting any younger, Utai is not long term, Brown, Ryan, Daniella?, Latu, not what you would call top line players with the capabilities to represent in SOO, Aust or even city/country.
Ayshford, to me, is a dead set lock forward, who will take over from Heinington in the near future. So that leaves us with, Lawrence and who knows if he will come back as good as he was or even if he will come back at all? remember Mr T.
McKinnon is on his last legs and no matter what some people may believe, Moltzen is not the answer to our fullback problem. Maybe Sheens is giving Mullaney some time to get used to the extra pace etc. in higher grades before he might call him up. I think that he would be a very good custodian.
So we need a couple of centres, a couple of wingers. These players need to be able to put pressure on our incumbents if they all come back fit and healthy. We need some size and some speed. I have not seen much of the lower grades this year, but from the results, there does not seem to be any players pushing for first grade.
Am I wrong?
Does anybody know players from other clubs/overseas, who are available and may fit the bill?
innsaneink
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Missing the point. Not surprising.
"We" dont have much of a kicking game , "we" didnt rectify this, we bought a winger back from park footy…he's going great, but he cant kick.
"We" leave one back on the bench for insurance, just in case.
"We" play a half at 1 when our 1 is out, cause he can play 1, but our 1 cant play anywhere else.
"We" dont have much of a kicking game , "we" didnt rectify this, we bought a winger back from park footy…he's going great, but he cant kick.
"We" leave one back on the bench for insurance, just in case.
"We" play a half at 1 when our 1 is out, cause he can play 1, but our 1 cant play anywhere else.
AmericanHistoryX
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apology not accepted - like i said in another post get off the wacky tabaccky mate - and your agenda with moltzen at fullback is pure infantantlism. grow up. as to what is acceptable - one more premiership.
tiger4ever
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@AmericanHistoryX said:
Yeah america but some peoples fascination is sheens…...nothing wrong with the wacky you should judge people like that.Grow up is good advice for you to take on board.
AmericanHistoryX
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tiger4ever - i will take that advice on board.
westTAHger
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winning is acceptable.
consistency is acceptable
losing is not.
players in their correct position is acceptable,
anything else is not.
players who perform is acceptable
non performers should not be in team or on bench.
consistency is acceptable
losing is not.
players in their correct position is acceptable,
anything else is not.
players who perform is acceptable
non performers should not be in team or on bench.
innsaneink
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@westTAHger said:
You mustnt be happy currently Tah, all your concerns are current issues for us.
king_sirro
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what is accepable is what the board will allow the great man to get away with, and going on the past, all we have to have is a few injuries to justify failure, and all will be accepted.
tiger4ever
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3rd last year.
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@jadtiger said:
I agree! :sign:
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@cktiger said:
It wont be until the end of 2014 because they wouldn't pay him out. If we don't make the top 8 this year I bet they will regret signing him for another 3 years. I'm not saying we wont make the top 8 though. I do know that we can't use excuses though like injuries because we have depth.
3 years could be too long a time frame however I fail to see who would be a better option.
We have had some shockers as coaches - Terry Lamb is probably the worst coach of all time. I do not want to go down a path like that ever again.
Admittedly Sheens has troubles at times picking the best team and he is loyal to under-performers however he does eventually get rid of players that are past it or he has made a mistake with. His biggest mistake has been Johnny Morris and that was a huge mistake but apart from that he has been a real good coach.
We have had some shockers as coaches - Terry Lamb is probably the worst coach of all time. I do not want to go down a path like that ever again.
Admittedly Sheens has troubles at times picking the best team and he is loyal to under-performers however he does eventually get rid of players that are past it or he has made a mistake with. His biggest mistake has been Johnny Morris and that was a huge mistake but apart from that he has been a real good coach.
Aladinsane
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@coopy said:
Agree with Ink…great post & a great thread as well.
4 years of semis football, PLEASE as September is so painful watching every other mate's team run round. w Our team week in week out o play with passion & commitment, play entertaining ,edge of the seat football, as I just couldn't stand going to games and watching our team play grinding boring football....even if it meant winning more games...
