What is wrong with our attack?

[Furious1]

The funniest thing with out attack is we addressed the speed issue signing Roberts on a cheap contract and never gave him clean ball at any stage through the year. Last night we have BJ creating problems and scoring a try in the first half and he received the ball ONCE in the second half in attacking position. The only other time he touched it was going in to do hit ups. The Titans looked dangerous whenever they spread the ball, we looked like headless chooks. Our depth is appalling and sorry for the AD lovers, but that falls on him, not Brooks.

You could pluck someone out of the crowd to play in the centres for us in attack with the amount of ball they get.

Yep love Douehi but he is starving his outside men.

He is one of our better player but I don't know if his style of play makes those around him better.

Maybe he stays flat due to lack of speed? I don't know, but he is the one who sets the depth for those outside him. And just to add, i'm not blaming him for all our attack problems as it's clearly on both sides.

 

[cochise]

The funniest thing with out attack is we addressed the speed issue signing Roberts on a cheap contract and never gave him clean ball at any stage through the year. Last night we have BJ creating problems and scoring a try in the first half and he received the ball ONCE in the second half in attacking position. The only other time he touched it was going in to do hit ups. The Titans looked dangerous whenever they spread the ball, we looked like headless chooks. Our depth is appalling and sorry for the AD lovers, but that falls on him, not Brooks.

You could pluck someone out of the crowd to play in the centres for us in attack with the amount of ball they get.

Yep love Douehi but he is starving his outside men.

He is one of our better player but I don't know if his style of play makes those around him better.

Maybe he stays flat due to lack of speed? I don't know, but he is the one who sets the depth for those outside him. And just to add, i'm not blaming him for all our attack problems as it's clearly on both sides.

He likes to bite into the defensive line with his footwork, he is likely to break the line everytime he runs, it just makes him incredibly hard to run off.

 

[tee95]

I think our problem with attack is the same problem we ultimately have in defence, our players are lazy in large periods of games and I don’t think they want to play for each other. When you watch the good teams cart the ball outside of their own 20 they support the ball runner after contact with the defence if they are about to be pushed back and show some urgency, our players hardly ever do this. When we do somehow stumble into the opposition 20 we have almost no players in motion which makes our attack very easy to read. Both these issues are players not being bothered to put in the effort to support their team mate in some way shape or form. That thing with nofa in the pre season when he didn’t really know other WT players who played golf apart from benji was a huge concern to me. I get the feeling there’s a disconnect between the playing group, makes sense when you watch them play that’s for sure.

 

[Speed2burn]

Our forwards are just low impact / we barely have any platform to build off

Our best forward last night was Mikaele, a lot of the good stuff we did in the 2nd half was off the back of his runs.

 

[jirskyr]

What's wrong with our attack is it's typically 12-16 points behind our woeful defence. 28 points will win you 95% of matches.

 

[TigerSJ]

Our attack stats have us close to middle of the comp within a few points, however our defense stats have us as dead last for points against.
Pretty simple to see what the problem is!!
The real question is Why?
In it’s simplest form, the answer is EFFORT. The bulk of our players just do not make the effort nor do they have the desire to dig deep. We are a squad totally without “winning” character or attitude. Until we have at least some of those types of guys Madge is on a hiding to nothing.

 

[Harvey]

No structure at all in attack, and appear to have no plan.

Same issue now that has been there for the last 5 years, our first and 2nd receivers run crossfield too much and no one straightens the attack.

 

[tiger_one]

No structure at all in attack, and appear to have no plan.

Same issue now that has been there for the last 5 years, our first and 2nd receivers run crossfield too much and no one straightens the attack.

Champion @Harvey, there's so much negative emotional response to another horrible result, and then I read this.
It's nailed it for me.

No structure etc etc. How sad on so many levels.
We are the laughing stock of the comp.
All media and oppositions simply scoff and deride us - and the constant failures on the field are undeniable.

Even schoolboys teams learn basic attack and defensive structures, do it, and know their responsibilities to the team and their coach.

Trying to reform 1st graders as a group is almost unheard of in successful teams.

Effort worthy of a 1st grade NRL team is the ONLY benchmark we can should want.
If the players cannot do this - they have to be moved on.
And the club has to keep their fans in the loop - we need to know how the club is being rescued in this time of crisis.
Pride for the jersey and ticker need to be found NOW not tomorrow.

 

[hugh1954]

All i will say is thank heavens for the bulldogs, they are keeping us in the fight for not being presented with the wooden spoon. Will be a battle over the comming weeks to see who can be more hopeless

 

[Tcat]

All i will say is thank heavens for the bulldogs, they are keeping us in the fight for not being presented with the wooden spoon. Will be a battle over the comming weeks to see who can be more hopeless

We'll give them a run.

 

[happy_tiger]

All i will say is thank heavens for the bulldogs, they are keeping us in the fight for not being presented with the wooden spoon. Will be a battle over the comming weeks to see who can be more hopeless

We'll give them a run.

Hope we don't best thing that could happen is getting beaten by 50 by the Dogs

 

[Merlot]

our D ,sloppy every where in patches everywhere,no D no dance

 

[BZN]

I think our problem with attack is the same problem we ultimately have in defence, our players are lazy in large periods of games and I don’t think they want to play for each other. When you watch the good teams cart the ball outside of their own 20 they support the ball runner after contact with the defence if they are about to be pushed back and show some urgency, our players hardly ever do this. When we do somehow stumble into the opposition 20 we have almost no players in motion which makes our attack very easy to read. Both these issues are players not being bothered to put in the effort to support their team mate in some way shape or form. That thing with nofa in the pre season when he didn’t really know other WT players who played golf apart from benji was a huge concern to me. I get the feeling there’s a disconnect between the playing group, makes sense when you watch them play that’s for sure.

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Edit : After checking your profile it turns out your not such a newbie after all [my mistake] :blush: , but keep those posts rolling in anyway.

 

[BZN]

I think we have no game plan for starters.and then we have a halfback with no confidence and awful decision making. We also have no players who can beat their opponent one on one and very few who can offload

I think we have a game plan, just not the cattle to execute it.

If that's the case @mike shouldn't Madge be working out a plan our blokes CAN follow?
Gees...what do they do all week at training?
Seems to me they duck behind the shed and play tiddlywinks.

I've deleted it now but I just commented on another thread re:Cowboys, basically asking how a team that was so poor just a month ago, now look competitive and exiting to watch? Is it effort or morale? Gameplan or squad?
There's still some issues with them but they look to be playing to their strengths and confident in each other. Even a depleted Roosters team were tough as nails last night and their defence was a good effort, all things considered.

I think Payten is showing how much of a good coach he is.

Appreciate the response thanks @gallagher.
It's baffling to me that some of these boys were the laziest or clumsiest players(in attack and defence) early in the year and now they look to be playing to the best of their ability.
It's not just them either. Look at Broncos when they played Titans and Penrith - though they lost.
Make no mistake these teams have been lapped up but to me it seems they know their strengths and are capable of playing to them despite inexperience or whatnot.

Something is very wrong within the club and w have no one to fix it.

All talk this year has mostly been about improving our defence, as much as combinations, but overall we've only seen a consistently poor defensive effort from the team - only keeping one team at less than double digits.
There's been games we've looked and played like a group of strangers.

:+1: :eyes: :mag:

 

[tee95]

I think our problem with attack is the same problem we ultimately have in defence, our players are lazy in large periods of games and I don’t think they want to play for each other. When you watch the good teams cart the ball outside of their own 20 they support the ball runner after contact with the defence if they are about to be pushed back and show some urgency, our players hardly ever do this. When we do somehow stumble into the opposition 20 we have almost no players in motion which makes our attack very easy to read. Both these issues are players not being bothered to put in the effort to support their team mate in some way shape or form. That thing with nofa in the pre season when he didn’t really know other WT players who played golf apart from benji was a huge concern to me. I get the feeling there’s a disconnect between the playing group, makes sense when you watch them play that’s for sure.

Edit : After checking your profile it turns out your not such a newbie after all [my mistake] :blush: , but keep those posts rolling in anyway.

Hey @MAGPIES1963 thanks! Not supporting the ball runner when they are being pushed back causes me more frustration than almost anything else.