Where is our CEO ?

@Geo. said:
@Pokies said:
@Geo. said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Weasel words from JT. A coach lives and dies by his results.

True…the playing group rocks on regardless....

The playing group doesn't just "rock on regardless". Just look at some of the players we have turned over since the end of 2012:

Benji Marshall, Chris Heighington, Blake Ayshford, Lote Tuqiri, Gareth Elllis, Adam Blair, Marika Koribete, Beau Ryan, Keith Galloway, Liam Fulton, Pat Richards, Briath Anasta, Blake Austin, Bodene Thompson, Martin Taupau plus many more.

Also consider the likes of Robbie Farah and Chris Lawrence have been told they can take offers from elsewhere.

I'm very comfortable players in this club are being held accountable for results.

Was Taylor here in 2012….?...Where have all these departures got us...? The culture of mediocrity must stop....

Turning over of players does not mean success...neither does turning over of Coaches...Lets see how much Taylor has learned with his new mantra of form will determine your place in the 17 each week...

Apologies if I have misunderstood your post. I read it as though you were saying the players were not being judged by the same standards as the coach - Wins/losses.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
We're suppose to throw the ball around Happy. You know that style that failed more than it succeeded and is the style a lot of the supporters have a hard time moving on from.

Yeah but it worked for 14 out of 16 weeks in 2005 GNR

Surely , eventually all the stars will align again …....... won't they ?? 😛ray:
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
We're suppose to throw the ball around Happy. You know that style that failed more than it succeeded and is the style a lot of the supporters have a hard time moving on from.

These are the sort of comments that are completely irrational and what is annoying about the JT supporters.

We need to play positive footy. We all know that JT's game plans at various times last year were terrible.

A winning footy team needs to score points.
 
@Pokies said:
@Geo. said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@willow said:
You don't know that, and JT wasn't the one lacing up the boots each week either.

Weasel words from JT. A coach lives and dies by his results.

True…the playing group rocks on regardless....

The playing group doesn't just "rock on regardless". Just look at some of the players we have turned over since the end of 2012:

Benji Marshall, Chris Heighington, Blake Ayshford, Lote Tuqiri, Gareth Elllis, Adam Blair, Marika Koribete, Beau Ryan, Keith Galloway, Liam Fulton, Pat Richards, Briath Anasta, Blake Austin, Bodene Thompson, Martin Taupau plus many more.

Also consider the likes of Robbie Farah and Chris Lawrence have been told they can take offers from elsewhere.

I'm very comfortable players in this club are being held accountable for results.

Some good points here. Plenty of players have been held accountable.
 
@stevetiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
We're suppose to throw the ball around Happy. You know that style that failed more than it succeeded and is the style a lot of the supporters have a hard time moving on from.

These are the sort of comments that are completely irrational and what is annoying about the JT supporters.

We need to play positive footy. We all know that JT's game plans at various times last year were terrible.

A winning footy team needs to score points.

More importantly , a winning footy team needs to defend their points , you still don't get it and probably never will :brick:
 
@happy tiger said:
@stevetiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
We're suppose to throw the ball around Happy. You know that style that failed more than it succeeded and is the style a lot of the supporters have a hard time moving on from.

These are the sort of comments that are completely irrational and what is annoying about the JT supporters.

We need to play positive footy. We all know that JT's game plans at various times last year were terrible.

A winning footy team needs to score points.

More importantly , a winning footy team needs to defend their points , you still don't get it and probably never will :brick:

I get it completely. Its pretty simple. You need to score more points than you let in.

Maybe one day at some point you will also get the maths that every good 5 year old should get.
 
@stevetiger said:
@happy tiger said:
@stevetiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
We're suppose to throw the ball around Happy. You know that style that failed more than it succeeded and is the style a lot of the supporters have a hard time moving on from.

These are the sort of comments that are completely irrational and what is annoying about the JT supporters.

We need to play positive footy. We all know that JT's game plans at various times last year were terrible.

A winning footy team needs to score points.

More importantly , a winning footy team needs to defend their points , you still don't get it and probably never will :brick:

I get it completely. Its pretty simple. You need to score more points than you let in.

Maybe one day at some point you will also get the maths that every good 5 year old should get.

Yep so if you let in 34 every week you just gotta score 35

Against sides like the Roosters ,Brisbane ,Manly etc

No problemo :brick:
 
@Geo. said:
Someone is not Smarter than a 5th grader….

I dunno Geo , the less points you have to score the better I would of thought

If we want to even make a charge at the 8 our defence needs to improve 200 %

We will struggle to score 20 every week in my opinion

Roosters 34 Tigers 20 isn't good Maths , is it ??
 
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
Someone is not Smarter than a 5th grader….

I dunno Geo , the less points you have to score the better I would of thought

If we want to even make a charge at the 8 our defence needs to improve 200 %

We will struggle to score 20 every week in my opinion

Roosters 34 Tigers 20 isn't good Maths , is it ??

I'm with you Happy….the top teams build there games on defence first and foremost...The best defensive teams are most often there when the whips are cracking come finals time...

Even the anomaly of '05...it was our scrambling defense was first rate...I remember a quote from Webke after the Brisbane semi along the lines of they were like bees swarming all over us...
 
@happy tiger said:
Roosters 34 Tigers 20 isn't good Maths , is it ??

Lets try this one out "Tigers 40 Roosters 20" is good maths.

Seriously mate you need to a grip on this. Taylor Ball is terrible losing footy. I'm confident that JT has learned his lesson. Lets hope he has or next season is over.
 
Anyone who slightly defends JT is automatically a JT supporter who must think he's a messiah. Don't you love that logic.
 
@stevetiger said:
@happy tiger said:
Roosters 34 Tigers 20 isn't good Maths , is it ??

Lets try this one out "Tigers 40 Roosters 20" is good maths.

Seriously mate you need to a grip on this. Taylor Ball is terrible losing footy. I'm confident that JT has learned his lesson. Lets hope he has or next season is over.

Anyone apart from Steve who think we can put 40 on the Roosters with both sides at full strength ??
 
it's about a balance and building a foundation for years to come.

why are the chooks and manly so successful??

they have a ROCK SOLID foundation. and that's essentially the absolute fundamentals of the game. Complete your sets, kick on the last, win the ruck and defend. All these bs offloads, backline plays, fancy grubbers come off the back of doing the basics.

You play off a foundation, then you are allowed to do the fancy stuff and score points. However, this club has never had a foundation and JT is trying to build one. Now, that looked brutally ugly in the first half of the year. Boring as all hell. I, and probably JT himself, would admit that he went a little too far in trying to build that foundation and really stiffled our attack.

If we can build off the back of defensive improvements made last year and create that BALANCE we could do okay. now, if we're bottom 4 half way through the season, it's probably best to find a new coach. but i'm willing to give JT another opportunity cause he has definitely made strong strides in our defense. and we already know we can attack if needed. and most importantly, we can't turn our head coaching role into musical chairs.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Anyone who slightly defends JT is automatically a JT supporter who must think he's a messiah. Don't you love that logic.

It depends how you defend him. Defending his mistakes doesn't help him especially if its obvious spin. If you said he was learning or he just made a mistake or whatever that would work.

Trying to spin it into something it wasn't doesn't help.
 
@pHyR3 said:
it's about a balance and building a foundation for years to come.

why are the chooks and manly so successful??

they have a ROCK SOLID foundation. and that's essentially the absolute fundamentals of the game. Complete your sets, kick on the last, win the ruck and defend. All these bs offloads, backline plays, fancy grubbers come off the back of doing the basics.

You play off a foundation, then you are allowed to do the fancy stuff and score points. However, this club has never had a foundation and JT is trying to build one. Now, that looked brutally ugly in the first half of the year. Boring as all hell. I, and probably JT himself, would admit that he went a little too far in trying to build that foundation and really stiffled our attack.

If we can build off the back of defensive improvements made last year and create that BALANCE we could do okay. now, if we're bottom 4 half way through the season, it's probably best to find a new coach. but i'm willing to give JT another opportunity cause he has definitely made strong strides in our defense. and we already know we can attack if needed. and most importantly, we can't turn our head coaching role into musical chairs.

I'm willing to give JT more time as well and I want him to be successful. I'm just not buying the spin.

I also think in the interview that he did that I found here he sounded a lot better.
 
@happy tiger said:
@stevetiger said:
@happy tiger said:
Roosters 34 Tigers 20 isn't good Maths , is it ??

Lets try this one out "Tigers 40 Roosters 20" is good maths.

Seriously mate you need to a grip on this. Taylor Ball is terrible losing footy. I'm confident that JT has learned his lesson. Lets hope he has or next season is over.

Anyone apart from Steve who think we can put 40 on the Roosters with both sides at full strength ??

I think we can in the first half… :laughing:
 
Only 5 teams scored more points than us this year. If only 5 teams defended better than us aswell we would have made the finals.
Simple maths.
 
@stevetiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Anyone who slightly defends JT is automatically a JT supporter who must think he's a messiah. Don't you love that logic.

It depends how you defend him. Defending his mistakes doesn't help him especially if its obvious spin. If you said he was learning or he just made a mistake or whatever that would work.

Trying to spin it into something it wasn't doesn't help.

Our defence has been garbage since Day 1 , it wouldn't matter who the coach was , I'd say the same thing

If it hasn't improved by the end of 2016 Taylor will be under huge pressure
 
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