Why Griffin let Taylor go

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Elijah Taylor was dumped to the NSW Cup after being told by new Penrith Panthers coach Anthony Griffin that he wasn't aggressive enough for first grade.
Before his expected debut for the Wests Tigers against Canterbury at ANZ Stadium on Sunday, Taylor has told Fairfax Media about the "frustrating" few months at the foot of the mountains.
New start: Elijah Taylor trains with Wests Tigers.
New start: Elijah Taylor trains with Wests Tigers. Photo: Supplied
Taylor was shunned from team training sessions for the final six weeks of his time at the club despite rejecting an offer to join the Sydney Roosters in round two in the hope of resurrecting his career at the Panthers.

At the start of the year Taylor was tipped to be announced as Penrith captain, but instead he has spent most of the season in NSW Cup before being granted a release to join the Wests Tigers this week.
Between Ivan Cleary's shock exit in the off-season and Anthony Griffin's arrival in November, Taylor's strengths had suddenly become weaknesses in the eyes of the new coach hell-bent on blooding the young talent out west.
Penrith coach Anthony Griffin.
Penrith coach Anthony Griffin. Photo: Ian Hitchcock
Cleary was a huge fan of the ever-reliable former Kiwi international, but Griffin didn't see the off-contract back-rower as part of his plans and sent him back to NSW Cup to add some mongrel to his game.
"We had a plan to try and make me a better player, and part of that plan was to play reserve grade," Taylor told Fairfax Media.
"They wanted me to be more aggressive in defence. That's what I was working on. I'm not the one to go out to go out and put on a big shot or whack someone in a tackle. My strength is to consistently be there, wrestle and lead the line speed.
"I was working on it trying to be a bit more aggressive in defence and get more carries and hit-ups. I was working on that, but the whole time I was thinking about it.
"My playing style didn't suit at the end of the day. We also had some great young back-rowers coming through, and they deserve to be playing first grade. It was out of my control. I trained as hard as I could in the pre-season and did everything that was asked of me.
"But I realised I wasn't going to play first grade even though I thought I had done everything that was asked of me. I was a bit frustrated, but I'm not a person to get angry. I just wanted to play first grade again, so that's why I'm at the Tigers."
He might have been out of favour at Penrith, but the Sydney Roosters showed interest in the 26-year-old to try to lure him to Bondi immediately, but Taylor remained fixed on earning his spot back in the team.
While he managed a few games off the bench, it took Penrith's golden-point victory over Canberra at Bathurst for him to realise he no longer had a future at the club.
"To be honest, I could have left in round two," Taylor said.
"Not to [Tigers], but I could have taken up an option to go somewhere else. But I really believed in what we were doing at Penrith and where the team was heading. There's so much potential at the Panthers this year. We worked so hard together in the pre-season, so to leave early when the season had just kicked off, that would have felt like I was letting down the team in a way.
"Then I realised after that win against Canberra, the boys are going really well and that I wouldn't play first grade if I stayed there. The hardest part was when senior players were coming up to me asking, 'Why aren't you playing?' That got me frustrated. To hear the boys asking what's going on, that hurt. A lot of boys were confused."
It's no secret Taylor joined the Panthers to play under Cleary, who handed Taylor his NRL debut at the Warriors.
Which is why he was stunned when he found out the news two weeks after the coach was speared.
"I found out two weeks later because I was on holiday and there was no Wi-Fi and reception in the Cook Islands," Taylor said.
"I got back and saw all these texts and missed calls. The first day I found out I was confused and shocked, to be honest. But when we came for training it was business as usual .
 
Reminds me of 2 things
1\. Why I am very impressed we signed Elijah Taylor
2\. Why I am still amazed at why Penrith signed the worst coach in the NRL and how we are so lucky we didn't
 
We could have our own headline "Why Potter or Taylor let Nathan Brown go?"

Watching the great game he had for City and the lack of impact we have from the interchange, we had a home grown solution but whomever was responsible for letting him go wasn't able to assess the skills and determination he'd bring to the club.
 
Elijah is a tackle machine…
Griffin is an idiot IMO.

Also how good is Nathan Brown turning out to be!?
 
@happy tiger said:
Is it me , but it sounds like he'd prefer not to be here ??

He does clearly state he wanted to stay with the panthers -
but they didn't want him.

It's a break up, so to speak.
He'll fall in love again…. Time heals all wounds.
 
Think it is you Happy.

Think he regrets leaving P'rith sure, put in alot of work, had alot of hopes and obviously alot of mates. Not easy to leave.

He has only been with us a matter of days, new club, new coach and not too many people he knows. It will take him a few weeks to settle and feel he belongs. I think we have a good bunch of guys and they won't take long to make him feel he is a big part of the Tigers.

Great guy, real good player and he will be good for us.
 
@Demps said:
@happy tiger said:
Is it me , but it sounds like he'd prefer not to be here ??

He does clearly state he wanted to stay with the panthers -
but they didn't want him.

It's a break up, so to speak.
He'll fall in love again…. Time heals all wounds.

Yes but is he on the rebound and is he going to use us like a filthy oily rag and throw us away once something better comes along

Will he still respect us in the morning ??

You make me laugh Demps :laughing:
 
@happy tiger said:
@Demps said:
@happy tiger said:
Is it me , but it sounds like he'd prefer not to be here ??

He does clearly state he wanted to stay with the panthers -
but they didn't want him.

It's a break up, so to speak.
He'll fall in love again…. Time heals all wounds.

Yes but is he on the rebound and is he going to use us like a filthy oily rag and throw us away once something better comes along

Will he still respect us in the morning ??

You make me laugh Demps :laughing:

the honeymoon period has just begun.
 
Well he has the upmost respect for Cleary that's for sure. B-grade conspiracy theory here but maybe he thinks Cleary is a chance to coach the Tigers? I'd say he is just going to rip in for the Tigers in 1sts this year & see what opportunities arise on the back of that.

Glad we have him in the team as his strengths (consistent tackling & linespeed) are exactly what we need!!
 
@Demps said:
@happy tiger said:
@Demps said:
@happy tiger said:
Is it me , but it sounds like he'd prefer not to be here ??

He does clearly state he wanted to stay with the panthers -
but they didn't want him.

It's a break up, so to speak.
He'll fall in love again…. Time heals all wounds.

Yes but is he on the rebound and is he going to use us like a filthy oily rag and throw us away once something better comes along

Will he still respect us in the morning ??

You make me laugh Demps :laughing:

the honeymoon period has just begun.

Lol, if he puts in for us week in week out, then i hope I he honeymoon period never ends. :laughing:
 
@Demps said:
Elijah is a tackle machine…
Griffin is an idiot IMO.

Also how good is Nathan Brown turning out to be!?

Brown was always very good. Weirdly I was one of his few supporters on this forum. Bad bit of business by Taylor but I suspect it was all about alleviating cap pressure.
 
@southerntiger said:
@Demps said:
Elijah is a tackle machine…
Griffin is an idiot IMO.

Also how good is Nathan Brown turning out to be!?

Brown was always very good. Weirdly I was one of his few supporters on this forum. Bad bit of business by Taylor but I suspect it was all about alleviating cap pressure.

Also with Brown sometimes players need the kick of up the butt being released brings. Just because he is achieving at Souths doesen't mean he would have if he stayed here. That is n't just tigers players you see a lot of blokes who get that kick by changing clubs especially young blokes who don't work that hard
 
@Boonboon2 said:
@southerntiger said:
@Demps said:
Elijah is a tackle machine…
Griffin is an idiot IMO.

Also how good is Nathan Brown turning out to be!?

Brown was always very good. Weirdly I was one of his few supporters on this forum. Bad bit of business by Taylor but I suspect it was all about alleviating cap pressure.

Also with Brown sometimes players need the kick of up the butt being released brings. Just because he is achieving at Souths doesen't mean he would have if he stayed here. That is n't just tigers players you see a lot of blokes who get that kick by changing clubs especially young blokes who don't work that hard

He didn't need a kick up the backside. Best forward (IMO) by a fair margin in the NYC side and excellent in his only first grade game for the Tigers.

Sure, he has lost some weight at the bunnies but that would have come naturally as he moved from part time to full time footballer.

Brown's progression is no surprise to anyone who watched his performances in NYC.
 
@Masterton said:
"My strength is to consistently be there, wrestle and lead the line speed."

I'll settle for that.

We haven't had someone lead the line speed since Bryce Gibbs left

Blair did at times , but wasn't as effective as we hoped
 
@happy tiger said:
@Masterton said:
"My strength is to consistently be there, wrestle and lead the line speed."

I'll settle for that.

We haven't had someone lead the line speed since Bryce Gibbs left

Blair did at times , but wasn't as effective as we hoped

It's refreshing just to hear a player talk it up like that. Leading the line speed is enormously important, and it was a massive change when Gibbs left.

Also, It's nice to hear a player with some degree of self-awareness about his abilities and not resort to the usual cliches. Smarter than the average player, I reckon.
 
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