Will the tigers be stronger in 2012 than in 2011

The loss of Moltzen next year is going to implicate the style of game we play. His and Benji's connection and style of game was amazing to watch. The bad thing is the tigers may have underestimated his talent and future prospects. His role as a full back has remained strong and consistent, but with a number 7 on his back, magic may have been made. I can't help but worry about Lui, who to me shows no strategic thinking, or game plan. He lacks the ability to take the pressure of Benji, and struggles with creating more then one play per game, not to mention his defense. Unless the tigers find a stronger half back in 2012 will be no different then 2011\. Premierships are won with a strong 1,6,7 and 9\. With Moltzen taking the number 7, the combination formed would of been nothing but first class. 2012 will be a great year for Moltzen, assuming his injury free, shame he won't be at the tigers to help contest for the premiership.
 
@tiger_29 said:
The loss of Moltzen next year is going to implicate the style of game we play. His and Benji's connection and style of game was amazing to watch. The bad thing is the tigers may have underestimated his talent and future prospects. His role as a full back has remained strong and consistent, but with a number 7 on his back, magic may have been made. I can't help but worry about Lui, who to me shows no strategic thinking, or game plan. He lacks the ability to take the pressure of Benji, and struggles with creating more then one play per game, not to mention his defense. Unless the tigers find a stronger half back in 2012 will be no different then 2011\. Premierships are won with a strong 1,6,7 and 9\. With Moltzen taking the number 7, the combination formed would of been nothing but first class. 2012 will be a great year for Moltzen, assuming his injury free, shame he won't be at the tigers to help contest for the premiership.
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One of the more inaccurate posts I have read of late.
 
@willow said:
@tiger_29 said:
The loss of Moltzen next year is going to implicate the style of game we play. His and Benji's connection and style of game was amazing to watch. The bad thing is the tigers may have underestimated his talent and future prospects. His role as a full back has remained strong and consistent, but with a number 7 on his back, magic may have been made. I can't help but worry about Lui, who to me shows no strategic thinking, or game plan. He lacks the ability to take the pressure of Benji, and struggles with creating more then one play per game, not to mention his defense. Unless the tigers find a stronger half back in 2012 will be no different then 2011\. Premierships are won with a strong 1,6,7 and 9\. With Moltzen taking the number 7, the combination formed would of been nothing but first class. 2012 will be a great year for Moltzen, assuming his injury free, shame he won't be at the tigers to help contest for the premiership.

One of the more inaccurate posts I have read of late.
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Totally agree with you Willow…

Moltzen fires when those around him fire. He plays off Benji, Lui and Farah. I doubt he'll fit in to the Dragons style of play.

On Lui, I think he has developed really well this year. He slots in to the equation between Benji and Farah so well. He knows when to pass and when to run at the line. I don't know the stats but I'd have to say he'd be one of the leading halfbacks for line breaks?
 
2011 was one of the worst injury wise i can remember us having…2006 was prob worse but not much

overall i think we'll be stronger. blair is a HUGE signing. he is a real tough no nonsense style who also has a bit of skill. hopefully brown will be our fulltime fullback, even though i was very impressed with moltzen in the semis, i do think overall brown will be a safer, better custodian for us.

blokes like woods, groat, lui, BMM will all be a year better.

lawrence and lote will hopefully have more luck with injury.

galloway, ayshford, fulton and ryan are all coming off their best year yet

bell wont let us down and will probably come off the bench most of the year whilst reddy will be solid wherever he is played.

youngsters like miller, sironen, tedesco, koribete, begovich, nofaluma, simona will all probably get chances to impress

dwyer is a massive loss but hopefully with his first real pre season under his belt BMM can fill the void.

im confident 2012 will be a very strong year
 
I don't know whether we will be any better next year, I hope we are because I'd rather not go through a night like tonight again. There are many things that will influence whether WTs are better next year, some include, better luck with injuries, better use of the bench, Lui's development, who plays fullback, how well Blair and the other new recruits fit into our team and so on ….
 
i think we will be better in 2012\. im looking forward to blair being in our forward pack. i think he will be really good for us. lui will be 1 year older so i expect him to be better and more consistant next season. woods got alot of firstgrade experience this year and i think next year he will be better. hopefully the injury gods are a bit nicer to us next season. C'MON WESTS!
 
@fergiefurr said:
2011 was one of the worst injury wise i can remember us having…2006 was prob worse but not much

overall i think we'll be stronger. blair is a HUGE signing. he is a real tough no nonsense style who also has a bit of skill. hopefully brown will be our fulltime fullback, even though i was very impressed with moltzen in the semis, i do think overall brown will be a safer, better custodian for us.

blokes like woods, groat, lui, BMM will all be a year better.

lawrence and lote will hopefully have more luck with injury.

galloway, ayshford, fulton and ryan are all coming off their best year yet

bell wont let us down and will probably come off the bench most of the year whilst reddy will be solid wherever he is played.

youngsters like miller, sironen, tedesco, koribete, begovich, nofaluma, simona will all probably get chances to impress

dwyer is a massive loss but hopefully with his first real pre season under his belt BMM can fill the void.

im confident 2012 will be a very strong year
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Hard to argue with any of that.
 
My Prediction - We will struggle in the first few weeks i think , then get to the semis but bow out in the first week
 
@willow said:
@tiger_29 said:
The loss of Moltzen next year is going to implicate the style of game we play. His and Benji's connection and style of game was amazing to watch. The bad thing is the tigers may have underestimated his talent and future prospects. His role as a full back has remained strong and consistent, but with a number 7 on his back, magic may have been made. I can't help but worry about Lui, who to me shows no strategic thinking, or game plan. He lacks the ability to take the pressure of Benji, and struggles with creating more then one play per game, not to mention his defense. Unless the tigers find a stronger half back in 2012 will be no different then 2011\. Premierships are won with a strong 1,6,7 and 9\. With Moltzen taking the number 7, the combination formed would of been nothing but first class. 2012 will be a great year for Moltzen, assuming his injury free, shame he won't be at the tigers to help contest for the premiership.

One of the more inaccurate posts I have read of late.
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He got 1 thing right Willow
You need a good 1,6,7 and 9
Unfortunately our 1 was only good for the last month of footy
If he had been like that for 80% of the season we may have finished further up the table and got an easier draw in the semis
 
im surprised brown didnt really get a go at fullback this year. he went well at fb towards the end of last year
 
Won't make the 8 next year. We've had 2 chances in the last two years and choked. Should have beat the roosters in 10 but choked, should have beat the warriors but choked. Chances don't come along like that very often. We just don't have a killer instinct.
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Moltzen wont be as big a loss as tiger_29 makes out.

Get Brown doing the same thing during the off season and it will be just as breathtaking to watch - just minus the butchered try at the end of the movement.

Brown is also half a step quicker than Moltz. Please tell me he will get first crack over Reddy.
 
Its all crystal ball stuff, who knows what is going to happen next year, Benji gets injured and all of a sudden we have no attack. On paper I say we are stronger, the likes of Reddy,Blair and Bell are seasoned first graders. My only real concerns are the mental scars of two back door exits in two years
 
YES, our younger guys (Woods, Groat, Lui, Shirnak, Murdoch, etc) are a year older and have some experience under their belt now. Bring in Adam Blair who is a damaging ball runner and one of the best defenders in the NRL and the pack is looking very strong. Lawrence and Lote will not be injured for the whole season like this year and as a result our left edge will be much stronger. If Brown/Reddy/whoever can slot into fullback with no dramas, we'll cover the loss of Moltzen. My only real concern is without Gibbs and Fifita, our front row depth may be a little thin. Blair can play up front but is better suited to the back row, and Matt Bell is no more than a solid first grader. We're definitely a top 4 side next season (injuries permitting).
 
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Won't make the 8 next year. We've had 2 chances in the last two years and choked. Should have beat the roosters in 10 but choked, should have beat the warriors but choked. Chances don't come along like that very often. We just don't have a killer instinct.
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I write this responsse trying to not let the dissappointment from Friday night have any effect but I don't think we will be a better team next season. I think we will see very much what we have seen the past 2 years. Large periods of the season where there will be a lack of patience, inability to close a game down and grind it out and poor decisions that will cost us dearly. Then we will have a backs to the wall and fire up and make a charge to the finals. I really thought the memory of the 1 point loss to the Dragons last season would be far more than enough to get us over the line on Friday night. If the pain of 2010 couldn't inspire our team to dominate to the last minute than I don't know what the motivator will be for 2012\. When it gets to the point of, which devistating finals loss do we choose from for motivation, I think that can do more harm than good. I think 2012, much of the same. Aghhh the emotional rollercoaster that is the life of a Tigers supporter.
 
Youth: The likes of Groat, Woods, et. al will have massively benefited from this year, and a full off season with the FG squad will do them wonders. BMM will have a full off season to recover from injury, and return fit and fired up.

Depth: Missing a big name fullback, but there is quality there to fill the void with Ryan, Brown & Reddy all very capable of doing so. Add to the mix speculative signings Tom Humble and John Grant and U20's James Tedesco and Koroibete we should be in a much better position in 2012 should an injury crisis belt us around. Matty Bell will provide value on the bench as well and will offer good no-nonsense go forward and solid defence around the ruck. And Adam Blair is a world class player who would walk into any NRL FG side.

We have got a good enough starting 13 to win it, it all depends on the two above factors for us. Hopefully the season won't be as disruptive with injuries and the likes of Rowdy and Lote will run rampant again.
 
Lawrence and Lote will be like fresh signings with plenty to play for in 2012.

Injuries hurt us this year but there is nothing like hurt and a fellinhg of unfinished business to spur a clkub on…

Heck Yeah we will be better.
 
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