Win All 8 Games...Still miss Top 4. Lose 3, Miss the 8

Aladinsane

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I have been thinking this for the last week or so ,and a piece in today's SMH , confirms my worse thoughts that…Even if our Wests Tigers go on another 7 or 8 game winning streak , with our current negative F/A I can't see the team making the Top 4.
Even a worse thought is that they will have to win 6 of the their last 8 games to make the 8, as it's going to maybe take 32 points just to get in the 8.
The last 3 games should have been all wins for the Wests Tigers , and it's going to hurt us come Leichhardt Time :bash ....Here's the article in today's SMH, who have us missing the 8....Your Thoughts??

Melbourne 42
Canterbury 40
Manly 38
Souths 38
Brisbane 36
Cronulla 33
Cowboys 30
Warriors 30

**Nine teams vying for eight spots just won't go**
Date July 13, 2012 …Glenn Jackson
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**WESTS TIGERS may have to beat the likely minor premiers, Melbourne, in the final round of the premiership to seal a place in the top eight.**
The Herald has run the rule over the final two months of the competition, and identified the round 26 clash between the current and pre-season premiership favourites as the match most likely to have a significant impact on the top eight on the final weekend. Melbourne might need to win to secure the minor premiership for the second straight season, while the Tigers may be relying on a victory to scrape into the finals.

**It appears that, the way the teams are progressing this season, the chase for top-eight spots is a race in nine. With 30 points being the current expected cut-off, the Tigers and Warriors are expected to be fighting it out for eighth spot**. Meanwhile Cronulla, who face an uncertain future without their skipper, Paul Gallen, are set for a slide out of the top four.

Approaching the final eight rounds, some interesting facts have emerged about this point of the season; only three times since 1998 have the top two teams after round 18 made the grand final, while all but three times a team in the top four at the end of round 18 has won the premiership. That makes a Melbourne-Canterbury grand final unlikely, while also suggesting that the teams currently out of the top four - Manly, South Sydney, North Queensland and the Warriors - will also have to buck history.

Advertisement Of course, the new finals system also seems geared towards the top four teams, making it arguably more important for teams this season to finish in the four after round 26.

A bolter has historically emerged over the years, but this season, options are slim; Canberra, St George Illawarra and Sydney Roosters are the only sides outside that top nine who are realistic chances of sneaking into the finals. But it is likely that they would have to win at least six games.

Here is a rundown on how the contenders are shaping up:

**Melbourne**
To play: Cowboys, Eels, Dragons, Panthers, Titans, Broncos, Sharks, Tigers

The minor premiership is theirs to lose, despite the Bulldogs' recent surge. The Storm have lost three of their past four matches, but will have fullback Billy Slater back in their side in the run home, and are too good a squad to turn this stumble into a fall.

**Canterbury**
To play: Eels, Sea Eagles, Cowboys, Knights, Broncos, Tigers, Raiders, Roosters

Also tipped to win seven of their last eight matches, leaving them outright second. They have five home games to finish the season, while out of their three remaining away games, two are against teams in the bottom half of the table.

**Cronulla**
To play: Dragons, Raiders, Panthers, Warriors, Knights, Rabbitohs, Storm, Cowboys

Are they overachievers right now? We're about to find out. If Paul Gallen is back quickly from his abdominal tear, they might prove the crystal ball wrong, but they have a tough draw. Their game against St George Illawarra on Sunday could be season-defining.

**Brisbane**
To play: Warriors, Titans, Eels, Raiders, Bulldogs, Storm, Sea Eagles, Panthers

Always a danger, but it's still unknown how they will respond after having a high representation in State of Origin. They have stalled over the last month; can they kick again, without Darren Lockyer to guide them, over the final two?

**Manly**
To play: Knights, Bulldogs, Warriors, Cowboys, Rabbitohs, Knights, Broncos, Titans

On top of their four remaining home matches, they have the luxury of playing South Sydney away at Gosford, while the only other away match against a current top-eight team is a clash with the seventh-placed North Queensland. It's difficult to see them faltering.

**South Sydney**
To play: Roosters, Dragons, Tigers, Titans, Sea Eagles, Sharks, Eels, Knights

They go into the final two months in form, with most of their squad fit, and with arguably the most comfortable draw of all the top-eight teams. It's how they handle it.

**North Queensland**
To play: Storm, Tigers, Bulldogs, Manly, Warriors, Dragons, Knights, Sharks

The next five rounds are about as hard as it gets out of all the finals aspirants. How they perform then is likely to make or break their season.

**Warriors**
To play: Broncos, Knights, Sea Eagles, Sharks, Cowboys, Panthers, Dragons, Raiders

In good form, and when given a sniff at this time of year, the Auckland-based side is always difficult to keep out.

**Wests Tigers**
To play: Panthers, Cowboys, Rabbitohs, Eels, Dragons, Bulldogs, Roosters, Storm

On their day can match anyone. But the question remains; who misses out to allow them in?
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nine-teams-vying-for-eight-spots-just-wont-go-20120712-21yy7.html#ixzz20RQjzWab
 
We've been poor all year.

I have no idea if we make the 8 or we don't. I know we have to completely turn around how we are playing to have any chance. At the same time if we get into form we have a chance to win the comp.
 
It is a concern particularly given that i really don't think that at any time this year we have looked like the Tigers of past years. I notice Benji said last night it was all about defence, and i agree 100%, but it's hard not to argue our attack has stunk many, many times this year. Lets just hope we do get into the 8, and off the back of some momentum create some havoc for the others.
 
Im not sure how likley this scenario is. All we need to do play good consistant footy and we are a chance.
 
no way will the cut off be 32.

As i have said before the favourites dont always win, so the predictors have a bias towards higher points.

The lower teams are not going to finish the year with no more wins.
 
@Goose said:
no way will the cut off be 32.

As i have said before the favourites dont always win, so the predictors have a bias towards higher points.

The lower teams are not going to finish the year with no more wins.

Yeah your probably right Goose, but with our inferior F/A to be assured of a spot, we will have to get 32 points maybe , especially if we keep winning by 2 or 4 points
 
Yes it is going to be particularly difficult for WT to make an effective charge into the finals this year. As others have already stated, we are not playing well (even in our 7 win run we did not really play well) so there will need to be a massive turnaround in form for WT to even make the 8, let alone top 4.

The other thing is that the teams above and around us are all playing consistently well - none looks like faltering at this stage (except perhaps the Cowboys) and if they're all still winning, us winning won't make any difference to positioning on the ladder. I think we might take 8th position at best, but with the Warriors and Canberra picking up some late season form we may even end up finishing 9th. I fear what Ink posted might come true - circa 08-09.

All that said, I guess anything is possible - WT just need to start winning games and hope for some real upsets with other results during the next 8 weeks 😛ray:
 
since we're already outside the top 8… winning all 8 games still wont guarantee top 8, will it?
 
@tig_prmz said:
since we're already outside the top 8… winning all 8 games still wont guarantee top 8, will it?

Of course it will. Many of the top 8 teams play each other, and if one wins, the ohe rmust lose!

But the question is…..will we? I doubt it. As much as I love the tigers, it has been one of the most frustrating years, given that we have a world class team (at least on paper).

The other years we didnt make the finals, I wasnt as depressed, but this year, with the calibre of players we have, its rather distressing.

Hope Anasta brings some guidance and better kicking game.
 
It's just a story… A lot of things can change

3 weeks ago they said the 8 was sorted and dependent on where each team in the 8 placed... Now there is 9 in contention...
Also dragons and raiders are only 2 points out and we saw what the raiders did to storm
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Newcastle CRUSHED Manly. That right there tells you how these "predictions" work out.

Guarantee Parra win a few games before the season is over, a few of the top teams will succumb to some of the bottom ones who cannot afford to drop any more games, and changes in form over 7 weeks is MASSIVE. To put it into perspective, we beat the Cowboys 7 weeks ago. Six days later, we smashed the Raiders 40 - 0.

We've gone from form team of the comp to very average in 7 weeks, it's entirely plausible (I say probable) that we can reverse the trend and go from average to in form in the next 7 rounds. It's SUCH a long time, and that's really not considering the other differences in form other teams will experience. Cronulla and Souths have historically struggled to maintain momentum and are due for form slumps, god look at Melbourne right now!

Too early for stupid articles like this, wait until there's 3 weeks left for these "prediction" threads.
 
Next two weeks against teams above us will define our season. At least we have plenty of time to prepare for the Cowboys and we definitely owe Souths for earlier in the season. Hard to predict how we're going to go but at least we're back in the eight.
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Very heartbreaking to say, but on current form i can't see us winning more than 2 out of 7 games, we havent got it anymore…..
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This has been my fear for a while , don't think will make it on current form . The roosters and Newcastle game is gonna come back and haunt us.
 

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