WOULD YOU VACCINATE TO BE ABLE TO WATCH SPORTS

[JD Tiger]

I also agree though that directly calling someone a liar is disrespectful. Such a post in itself should be deleted. Coming from a moderator as well, well, we’re all human (I assume) so mistakes are made.

This is wrong. One person is more than likely lying. At the very least he is twisting the truth. The health advice is extremely clear.

If a Doctor stated that there must be some anomaly that we do not know. It's like a doctor killing people via being a poor anesthetist. It's extremely poor advice unless there is something amazing going on.

He continually states ideas that are similar to this. It's has to be statistically impossible for him to tell us all these stories. I get it for a one off but not over and over again.

Then you call him a liar and you are the problem. That is wrong. He isn't telling the truth.

How do you know the doctor didn't say that? Whether it's morally right or not is a completely different matter. And by the sounds of it, it sounds like it is against the higher Health authority advice. That still doesn't mean the doctor didn't say it.

Maybe the poster is posting something which isnt the truth, (and I havent read all the context, I value what little sanity I have remaining too much,) but I still say directly calling someone a liar is too far.

If I posted that about another patron, then I'd expect a mod to tell me to pull my head in, and fair enough to.

I dig the Doctor Death reference too, a decent tv show.

 

[Tiger Beach]

I also agree though that directly calling someone a liar is disrespectful. Such a post in itself should be deleted. Coming from a moderator as well, well, we’re all human (I assume) so mistakes are made.

This is wrong. One person is more than likely lying. At the very least he is twisting the truth. The health advice is extremely clear.

If a Doctor stated that there must be some anomaly that we do not know. It's like a doctor killing people via being a poor anesthetist. It's extremely poor advice unless there is something amazing going on.

He continually states ideas that are similar to this. It's has to be statistically impossible for him to tell us all these stories. I get it for a one off but not over and over again.

Then you call him a liar and you are the problem. That is wrong. He isn't telling the truth.

But there are many doctors expressing great concern about the vaccines despite what your view may be

I would post some but they won’t be from a mainstream media site, a government site, nor a sufficiently science based site for most here

And I’ve been warned posting information from outside these guidelines may end in me being barred here

They are out there but you probably won’t find them with a Google search

 

[Honkylips]

TGA has just finalised its approval of the Moderna Vaccine this afternoon. Australia should have it arrive in September. US data shows it has a 94.1% efficacy against Covid after the second dose. I wonder what the flat earthers will come up with to dismiss this one??

 

[earl]

How do you know the doctor didn’t say that?

He would be contravening the countries health advice.

That poster has consistently posted the same type of stories. Anecdotal evidence that supports his theories that consistently go against standard doctrine in anything. He never produces any facts. He just smears anything he can with anecdotal evidence that he cannot prove.

He basically consistently posts nonsense.

For some reason in our society it is becoming more and more accepted to believe that opinions or feelings are more important than facts.

If someone is clearly a liar he should be called a liar.

 

[Harvey]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

 

[Demps]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

Yeah, I bet.
Know the types.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

 

[Demps]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

You ask 10 different people, it's likely you may get 10 different opinions.
Maybe they'll all have the same.

It's possible, yeah.

 

[Tiger5150]

People trying to combine smoking and alcohol deaths with covid are way of the mark .Smoking and alcohol are self inflected illnesses some can be rehabilitated and sadly some continue into oblivion.However Covid is a completely different story if it can be controlled by vaccination a lot of needless deaths can be avoided.Covid as we have seen spreads like wildfire and will kill if not controlled and sadly those who choose not to be vaccinated will probably be first to go.Information that is coming out now is the long term after effects of Covid they are saying that those who get covid may recover but more than likely not lead a normal life again

I was the one who raised alcohol and smokers. I was in no way equating them with COVID. They are in no way comparable for at least the reasons you raise.

I raised alcohol and smoking in the context of Earls assertion that non vaccinated people should be excluded from the health care system. I merely pointed out that alcohol and smoking contributes to a MUCH higher strain on the health care system and these people are not excluded.

FWIW I’m not comfortable living in a society that cuts smokers, drinkers or unvaccinated from our health system (I don’t smoke and sm booked in for vax)

 

[dazza65]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

 

[Demps]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

Those quacks are definitely out there though man.

Don't have to agree with what they're doing but they definitely exist.

 

[dazza65]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

Those quacks are definitely out there though man.

Don't have to agree with what they're doing but they definitely exist.

No doubt. However it doesn’t change the point that if that’s their m.o. why would you listen to their advice. That’s all.

 

[Demps]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

Those quacks are definitely out there though man.

Don't have to agree with what they're doing but they definitely exist.

No doubt. However it doesn’t change the point that if that’s their m.o. why would you listen to their advice. That’s all.

I wouldn't, personally...

But you know some would.

 

[dazza65]

A phase-three is typically tens of thousands. We already have real-world experience in tens of millions. We have massive experience using the best surveillance system we’ve ever had,” says Robert Booy, senior professorial fellow at the National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance."

I know Robert Booy, I did a flu vaccine study with him at the Kids Hospital at Westmead, about 10 years ago. Smart dude.

He certainly is, I bit a bit to do with him when he first arrived at Westmead around 2005.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

@Radoush may be unaware of any sideline his GP may or may not have

 

[JD Tiger]

How do you know the doctor didn’t say that?

He would be contravening the countries health advice.

That poster has consistently posted the same type of stories. Anecdotal evidence that supports his theories that consistently go against standard doctrine in anything. He never produces any facts. He just smears anything he can with anecdotal evidence that he cannot prove.

He basically consistently posts nonsense.

For some reason in our society it is becoming more and more accepted to believe that opinions or feelings are more important than facts.

If someone is clearly a liar he should be called a liar.

If you can be sure they're a liar.
If someone does continually post things which are far-fetched, probably untrue, then I can see how one could come to that conclusion.

 

[dazza65]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

@Radoush may be unaware of any sideline his GP may or may not have

He may be.
He may not be.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

I would be surprised if a doctor said this.

Deal with a few GPs through work.
Approximately 5.

All are very in favour of vaccination.
All 5 refused to do mask exemptions also.

Seems like this would be the baseline.

If you shop wide enough you will find those that sign vaccine exemptions and deal out opiates at the drop of a hat.

So @Radoush may well be telling the truth

Yes because if your gp is selling exemptions and dealing opiates inappropriately you’ll listen ton their vaccine advice……. Seriously

@Radoush may be unaware of any sideline his GP may or may not have

He may be.
He may not be.

Doesn’t support the liar conclusion then

 

[Radoush]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

What's his name and where does he practise?

He is from Pakistan and in his 30's

He didn’t ask his ethnicity or age he asked his name and where does he practice.

I noticed that but he's a good guy and people on here will just give him a hard time

Another mate got abused for telling people he would no get vaccinated

 

[mike]

Guys, If you are confused or are on the fence surrounding the vaccine go and see your GP. Voice your concerns about it. Then make a decision.

My GP said no wait to after stage 4 trials finished it's to dangerous yet and doesn't stop you from getting or passing it on I trust him smart guy

What's his name and where does he practise?

He is from Pakistan and in his 30's

He didn’t ask his ethnicity or age he asked his name and where does he practice.

I noticed that but he's a good guy and people on here will just give him a hard time

Another mate got abused for telling people he would no get vaccinated

He is a GP, or is he a mate as well? Unfounded accusations against a GP would not go well for the accuser.