WT Ownership, The Board & Senior Management - MEGA Thread

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Well that’s the pot calling the kettle black.
100% coming from the biggest pelican in history, please!
Rabbits on about Pascoe every chance he gets. One minute he’s talking about how they should of never signed Fulton without permission of the three amigos. Without looking at the mere facts that sheens would not of allowed it with his mate Ronald in charge of recruitment.
Then he goes into a tirade on the facts we have no halves signed for next season except an injured Doueihi, and how could a club put them selves in this position?!?
Hey Einstein have u ever thought thats why they got Fulton? Because Ronald snd the team dropped the ball, thought they had Moses, thought they still had Brooks. Seriously do some real journalism and check your facts, pelican!
If Fulton or not is the answer time will tell, but we are the current wooden spooners and change was needed.
There is no way in hell Sheens would of allowed Ronald to get the boot and Fulton to walk straight in, this is the only way the club could of done it, unfortunately.
 
For me the worst part of any loss is this place.
We've had half a season with the new coaches and we were on an upward trajectory until the injury to our only creative player Api.
Then you have the death riders eagerly awaiting our first flogging so the place can go into an epic meltdown.
Hysterical podcasters, ex forum moderators rising from the dead, it's all very unpleasant and worse than anything the team produces. Maybe this forum needs an external review.
Anyways, time for a spell.
 
We spoke about the need for change on last nights podcast, I have posted this in a couple of threads on here as a starting point to show that we have numbers. The aim is to generate fan, media and NRL support for a full and extensive external review of the club from top to bottom and a restructure of the club.

I have just signed the petition and I am disappointed that there are only 85 signatures so far.

Where are the other 20,000 member signatures, but then I suppose that pets would find it hard to sign a petition and of course the other 380,000 so called fans that are not members don't count according to Inspector Gadget.

Everybody get on with it and sign up and blow the joint up.
 
We spoke about the need for change on last nights podcast, I have posted this in a couple of threads on here as a starting point to show that we have numbers. The aim is to generate fan, media and NRL support for a full and extensive external review of the club from top to bottom and a restructure of the club.


If you can lead the charge that gets Pascoe punted I’ll be a card carrying member of your jungle organization. If you’ll have me that is. Either way, Godspeed.
 
For me the worst part of any loss is this place.
We've had half a season with the new coaches and we were on an upward trajectory until the injury to our only creative player Api.
Then you have the death riders eagerly awaiting our first flogging so the place can go into an epic meltdown.
Hysterical podcasters, ex forum moderators rising from the dead, it's all very unpleasant and worse than anything the team produces. Maybe this forum needs an external review.
Anyways, time for a spell.
🤣 upward trajectory 😆😆😆 3 & 12 😎
Nice piece of trolling.
 
It’s telling that a bloke who talks to Justin and Lee regularly and has been pretty staunch in defending them at times has now run out of other ideas. I’ve been saying for five years that Pascoe is the problem and now there’s nobody who doesn’t agree. Not sure how he can survive this time.

The enemy of my enemy is my bff.
 
Did you see him on NRL360? The little drunk was so nervous, could hardly get his words out. Makes me wonder what motivated those comments 🤔
No, haven’t seen it yet, never watch it live. I have it with my morning cuppa, only get a 15min break. 😂
 
Watch him try and justify the Sheens sacking when the other hosts go at him, he looks like he’s going to piss himself (in fear). Something motivates him to protect the useless pricks running our club.

Probably free booze,however for once he is right Sheens should go as should everyone on the board Lee and Pascoe.They are killing the club
 
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100% coming from the biggest pelican in history, please!
Rabbits on about Pascoe every chance he gets. One minute he’s talking about how they should of never signed Fulton without permission of the three amigos. Without looking at the mere facts that sheens would not of allowed it with his mate Ronald in charge of recruitment.
Then he goes into a tirade on the facts we have no halves signed for next season except an injured Doueihi, and how could a club put them selves in this position?!?
Hey Einstein have u ever thought thats why they got Fulton? Because Ronald snd the team dropped the ball, thought they had Moses, thought they still had Brooks. Seriously do some real journalism and check your facts, pelican!
If Fulton or not is the answer time will tell, but we are the current wooden spooners and change was needed.
There is no way in hell Sheens would of allowed Ronald to get the boot and Fulton to walk straight in, this is the only way the club could of done it, unfortunately.
WT is nothin but a shit fight from top to bottom.

If Our Board was effective and functional, they should have been able to talk with Sheens about their desire to bring in Fulton before it happened. If Sheens respected the board, he would have agreed the change was necessary and gone along with it.
Sheens doesn't run the show. But he obviously doesn't respect the board and he's got his nickers in a knot for not being put in the picture, but who can blame him for that. No one has respect for our board.
Effective communication amongst the board obviously doesn't exist.
But it should be a real thing as the dude in the funny hat is a bloody high falutin legal person so should be a good communicator, but imo he's a fraud and is only on the board to pump up his own tyres.
 
Watch him try and justify the Sheens sacking when the other hosts go at him, he looks like he’s going to piss himself (in fear). Something motivates him to protect the useless pricks running our club.
Do you think there could be 1 or 2 at board level feeding him?
 
Sheens has been back 5 minutes compared to Pascoe and some of the dinosaurs. The problems were there long before Sheens latest employment.

Undoubtedly,however since Sheens has taken over we have got worse losing a higher ratio of games with a stronger squad.He is at least a decade out of date
 
WT is nothin but a shit fight from top to bottom.

If Our Board was effective and functional, they should have been able to talk with Sheens about their desire to bring in Fulton before it happened. If Sheens respected the board, he would have agreed the change was necessary and gone along with it.
Sheens doesn't run the show. But he obviously doesn't respect the board and he's got his nickers in a knot for not being put in the picture, but who can blame him for that. No one has respect for our board.
Effective communication amongst the board obviously doesn't exist.
But it should be a real thing as the dude in the funny hat is a bloody high falutin legal person so should be a good communicator, but imo he's a fraud and is only on the board to pump up his own tyres.
Agree with pretty much all of that, except the part about Sheens’ not dealing with the secrecy behind the appointment of Fulton.
I doubt Sheens and Pascoe have had a good working relationship for a long time, perhaps as far back as preseason.
It’s Pascoe who has a communication issue and his oneupmanship is destroying the club.
Fulton was never a godsend from heaven, he’s a Trojan horse, a reflection of Pascoe’s response behaviour.
He does stuff like that to prove he’s the boss.
Similar to his pregame antics of turning up in the trackies, kicking ball and his lounging in the change room while Sheens was trying to motivate the players. All behaviour for Sheens benefit.
Pascoe needs counselling.
 
Yes but looking purely at results minimises the bigger issues above the football department. They can only do so much with the worst roster in the NRL. Every coach we have had has been fighting blindfolded with an arm tied up.

We don't have the worst roster in the NRL but we probably do have the worst Chairman/board/CEO/coach in the NRL.All of them are out of touch with reality
 
We’ve won what 4 games in a year and just lost 0-74. Take off the rose coloured glasses, our 30 man roster is shit. 3 or 4 decent recruits is good but it doesn’t change the fact.

We agree to disagree,our team this year is superior to any side we have had in the last decade but our leadership/admin is still as bad as ever and our coaching is worse.Sheens is as responsible as our CEO Chairman and board they are all abysmal
 
People look at the shiny recruits, But don't look at the whole Roster...
Saukuru, Tumeth, Rua, Fainu, Reilly, Tuki... (That's 1/6th of our Roster not likely to see first grade)
What NRL value will we get from these blokes?

( I won't even mention the bottom tier guys that actually do get game time)
Our squad isn't strong enough to carry these sorts of blokes.

I know they can't all be stars, But you need some stars (Not 1) to carry these blokes,
And be stronger across the board...
It's every year we give up Roster spots on this sort of crap, Hoping they'll all be a Fonua or Bula - Truth is, In the last 4-5 years Those 2 are the only young blokes that look likely to me (Including Tumeth and Matamua)

Fair point but I think there’s a bunch of teams with a bunch of fringe players that seem to be at the very least, competitive. Also, you’d have to ask why does wests have so many park footballers?
 
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We agree on a lot of that. I think you’re looking at a handful or quality players and forgetting about the shit that sits below the surface.

There is no doubt that some of our depth is poor which makes the decision to move on players like Hastings during the off season and Joffa this year even more bewildering.It actually hints of internal sabotage even if it was unintentional
 
WT is nothin but a shit fight from top to bottom.

If Our Board was effective and functional, they should have been able to talk with Sheens about their desire to bring in Fulton before it happened. If Sheens respected the board, he would have agreed the change was necessary and gone along with it.
Sheens doesn't run the show. But he obviously doesn't respect the board and he's got his nickers in a knot for not being put in the picture, but who can blame him for that. No one has respect for our board.
Effective communication amongst the board obviously doesn't exist.
But it should be a real thing as the dude in the funny hat is a bloody high falutin legal person so should be a good communicator, but imo he's a fraud and is only on the board to pump up his own tyres.
Maybe, but in all honesty Sheens would not of taken it well from any board in the NRL. He would of leaked it to the press and most likely interrupted the acquisition of Fulton. For once we struck without any leaks, that should tell u my assumption is right!
Your talking about a perfect world, let me give u a tip. It doesn’t exist…
I don’t agree that the coaching department need ti sign off on the recruitment guy. Seperate areas, responsibility to the ceo and the board. Look at what Cleary did too us with full autonomy. It cost us for years. The coaching team need to be in the decision making team on players not the head of recruitment.
 
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Sheens has been back 5 minutes compared to Pascoe and some of the dinosaurs. The problems were there long before Sheens latest employment.
And let’s not forget that Sheens was brought back as Head of Football and the first thing he requested that his old comrade McDonnell be reinstated as Recruitment Manager, because he knew the types of players that Sheens would be after.
Of course after the Sheens/ Madge breakup this became even more of a priority but despite overtures to several leading coaches, nothing eventuated.
Eventually someone/somewhere floated the idea, let’s forget outside and do it within. Sheens was suddenly thrust into a high pressure role that he didn’t really expect to be in. He knew that he could probably handle it for a year or two to get the club sorted ready for a successor. And who better than a couple of guys who knew the good and the bad of the Tigers.
Next stop, a defensive coach who Sheens knew and had worked with previously, D. Furner.
So the plan is in place and away we go. Review the roster, roll down the internal plan to develop the pathways. Let the Tigers be self reliant. Start to clear out some deadwood and look for key/ suitable players. No 7 the most important , so let’s get Moses home coz he knows the Tigers. No deal, at any price.
Then desperation stars to set in, no worries, our financials quite strong, let’s work on making the club more attractive. A couple of wins, always good for recruitment, but still no one knocking down the door.
Next thing Fedora and the Oelican get wind of a better recruitment guy coming on the market, one S. Fulton, lots of contacts. We can’t talk to Sheens and Co about it given his edict about wanting McDonnell. So best done on the QT, good for long term recruitment and the coaches just have to live with it. Board says do it.
Fulton employed, McDonnell released and Sheens world fractured.Fulton says to Sheens and Benji I can get you XYZ players, but you may have to jettison a couple of exisiting players first.
Good news. Parra will take Joffa, Manly are going to take Brooks and Talau if your hands.
In return we can get Schuster and a couple of potentially hot players. Benji, you meet with them and sort it out.
Schuster seems too lazy but interested in the kids. Let’s get them.
And ladies and gentlemen that brings us to where we are now. Chairman and CEO who think they know best, a disgruntled coaching team, major holes in our roster, players becoming pissed off with the outlook and NO ONE capable of sorting out warring parties.
Only options are some NRL involvement, or an independent third party auditor( not just money) or termination of key stakeholder positions.
And if you have a finite answer then please share coz it’s a real conundrum.
 
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