WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2021

[balmain boy]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

I'd say depth is Liddle, Simpkin, Walters, Mbye. Not that strong, but do'able.

We can always pick up a 2nd tier 9 mid season if needed from injuries.

I guess that's the problem. If Liddle goes down we're stuck with a rookie and part time 9's in a key role.

We were stuck with a rookie last season too. Turned out ok, and he got rookie of the year.

If you recruit the right players age is of no concern.

 

[Devon Head]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

I'd say depth is Liddle, Simpkin, Walters, Mbye. Not that strong, but do'able.

We can always pick up a 2nd tier 9 mid season if needed from injuries.

I guess that's the problem. If Liddle goes down we're stuck with a rookie and part time 9's in a key role.

We were stuck with a rookie last season too. Turned out ok, and he got rookie of the year.

If you recruit the right players age is of no concern.

Agreed, plus Simpkins has massive wraps and will be frothing for a chance.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

 

[hank37w]

“We also know how to push each other — and we can get competitive at times — but that is good. We pushed each other a fair bit in pre-season to come back to training with not too much weight and in good shape.

“It’s definitely helped me be good this year and I think he’s the same.”



No-one ever got my goat the way my brother did, but I'd go to war and bleed for him every day of the week.
With the Leilua boys, that bond was on display last year against Penrith and a big piece of me found it hard to fault Joey committing such a bone-headed act.
If BJ can harness his aggro and channel it the right way their gonna be awesome together.

Attended that game with my brother, a panthers fan, on the way out I was deflated but said to him, we stood up to Penrith tonight, Joeys act was a sign of it, we had each other’s back. Sadly that was all she wrote for our season, think the Warriors gave us a lesson shortly after.

Yeah it was good ...but it has to be controlled aggression ...like Brooks throwing punches .....controlled ......make him look like a chump when you set up the winning try and then let him know .....same with Joey just run over the top of him next run and give him the stare ..get in his head and get him out of yours .....play smart ...and never give a sucker an even break

Agree, we have to have discipline to beat good teams, along with that the effort and execution need to be on point. We had the effort in that game - it was one of Eisenhuth’s best performances - but we lacked the discipline and the execution when it mattered. I think Madge is the man to instil these traits at WT but I think it’s going to take him another 2-3 years.

We will miss Eisenhuth and McIntyre almost as much as we will miss Grant in 2021

Huth is the fringe player every club needs ...you can't expect him to pull those efforts out for 24 rounds ...bring him in 8-10 games a season ...hell yeah

Huth stepped up really well to make up for the disappointing end of season that Twal had and ET really stepped up as well when needed towards the end.

I would not have complained too much if a spot was found for one of them to go around again in the top 30 for this year.

 

[sleeve]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

do you mean SIMKIN ?

 

[hank37w]

Simpkin.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

do you mean SIMKIN ?

Yea sorry . That’s gonna mess with my chi at times I think .
Edit; you can’t be a grammar nazi and get the correction wrong man lol

 

[sleeve]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

do you mean SIMKIN ?

Yea sorry . That’s gonna mess with my chi at times I think .
Edit; you can’t be a grammar nazi and get the correction wrong man lol

Not a Nazi and you were one of a few and,it was confusing my already dim mind,i too will have to get used to Tui or Simkin.

 

[TigerWest]

“We also know how to push each other — and we can get competitive at times — but that is good. We pushed each other a fair bit in pre-season to come back to training with not too much weight and in good shape.

“It’s definitely helped me be good this year and I think he’s the same.”



No-one ever got my goat the way my brother did, but I'd go to war and bleed for him every day of the week.
With the Leilua boys, that bond was on display last year against Penrith and a big piece of me found it hard to fault Joey committing such a bone-headed act.
If BJ can harness his aggro and channel it the right way their gonna be awesome together.

Attended that game with my brother, a panthers fan, on the way out I was deflated but said to him, we stood up to Penrith tonight, Joeys act was a sign of it, we had each other’s back. Sadly that was all she wrote for our season, think the Warriors gave us a lesson shortly after.

Yeah it was good ...but it has to be controlled aggression ...like Brooks throwing punches .....controlled ......make him look like a chump when you set up the winning try and then let him know .....same with Joey just run over the top of him next run and give him the stare ..get in his head and get him out of yours .....play smart ...and never give a sucker an even break

Agree, we have to have discipline to beat good teams, along with that the effort and execution need to be on point. We had the effort in that game - it was one of Eisenhuth’s best performances - but we lacked the discipline and the execution when it mattered. I think Madge is the man to instil these traits at WT but I think it’s going to take him another 2-3 years.

We will miss Eisenhuth and McIntyre almost as much as we will miss Grant in 2021

Huth is the fringe player every club needs ...you can't expect him to pull those efforts out for 24 rounds ...bring him in 8-10 games a season ...hell yeah

Huth stepped up really well to make up for the disappointing end of season that Twal had and ET really stepped up as well when needed towards the end.

I would not have complained too much if a spot was found for one of them to go around again in the top 30 for this year.

A bit harsh on Twal, he was injured most of the season?

 

[hank37w]

“We also know how to push each other — and we can get competitive at times — but that is good. We pushed each other a fair bit in pre-season to come back to training with not too much weight and in good shape.

“It’s definitely helped me be good this year and I think he’s the same.”



No-one ever got my goat the way my brother did, but I'd go to war and bleed for him every day of the week.
With the Leilua boys, that bond was on display last year against Penrith and a big piece of me found it hard to fault Joey committing such a bone-headed act.
If BJ can harness his aggro and channel it the right way their gonna be awesome together.

Attended that game with my brother, a panthers fan, on the way out I was deflated but said to him, we stood up to Penrith tonight, Joeys act was a sign of it, we had each other’s back. Sadly that was all she wrote for our season, think the Warriors gave us a lesson shortly after.

Yeah it was good ...but it has to be controlled aggression ...like Brooks throwing punches .....controlled ......make him look like a chump when you set up the winning try and then let him know .....same with Joey just run over the top of him next run and give him the stare ..get in his head and get him out of yours .....play smart ...and never give a sucker an even break

Agree, we have to have discipline to beat good teams, along with that the effort and execution need to be on point. We had the effort in that game - it was one of Eisenhuth’s best performances - but we lacked the discipline and the execution when it mattered. I think Madge is the man to instil these traits at WT but I think it’s going to take him another 2-3 years.

We will miss Eisenhuth and McIntyre almost as much as we will miss Grant in 2021

Huth is the fringe player every club needs ...you can't expect him to pull those efforts out for 24 rounds ...bring him in 8-10 games a season ...hell yeah

Huth stepped up really well to make up for the disappointing end of season that Twal had and ET really stepped up as well when needed towards the end.

I would not have complained too much if a spot was found for one of them to go around again in the top 30 for this year.

A bit harsh on Twal, he was injured most of the season?

No I wasn't being harsh on Twal at all, sorry if it sounded that way.

I realize that Alex was affected badly by that injury and it was not meant to sound like I was being critical of him, instead I was trying to point out how impressed I was with the way Matt stepped up to fill the void.

 

[kiwitiger]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

Liddle 43 games since his debut....played 60 plus minutes 5 times.
Simpkin never played fg
Walters never played more than 30 minutes at dh in a game
Mbye never remember him winning a game a dh...I'm sure he has at the dogs but he is ordinary passing of the ground.
Madden never played fg. Never played dh not sure why he is here in the list.
Tldr... quality over quantity. 1 good dh would be better. At the moment we are hoping that someone will make the jersey there's

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

Liddle 43 games since his debut....played 60 plus minutes 5 times.
Simpkin never played fg
Walters never played more than 30 minutes at dh in a game
Mbye never remember him winning a game a dh...I'm sure he has at the dogs but he is ordinary passing of the ground.
Madden never played fg. Never played dh not sure why he is here in the list.
Tldr... quality over quantity. 1 good dh would be better. At the moment we are hoping that someone will make the jersey there's

Disagree completely . We have the highest rated dummy half not to play first grade , and the Aus schoolboys dummy half who’s yes has injured himself a fair bit , but the quality is definitely there.
We have spent the last 5 -10 years doing exactly what you have suggested . From Farah to Ballin, Godinet, Taylor, Farah again , we have persistently put “experience” which you call quality , over “quantity “ which should be called uncertainty.
I think it’s time for some uncertainty.
The last 2 times we’ve rolled the dice at dummy half , we got Farah , and rented Grant .

 

[sleeve]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

Liddle 43 games since his debut....played 60 plus minutes 5 times.
Simpkin never played fg
Walters never played more than 30 minutes at dh in a game
Mbye never remember him winning a game a dh...I'm sure he has at the dogs but he is ordinary passing of the ground.
Madden never played fg. Never played dh not sure why he is here in the list.
Tldr... quality over quantity. 1 good dh would be better. At the moment we are hoping that someone will make the jersey there's

I think 9 position is fine with Liddle and Simkin,my only concern is FB and 5/8.The rest i'm happy with.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Updated to reflect Laurie and Momirovski.

 

[Roar_Power]

Thoughts on Jake Simpkin?

For mine, we're looking very skinny when it comes to options at hooker.

he'll make his debut at some point this year, but hookers take time to find their feet because the position is so physically and mentally taxing at the highest level. massive wraps on him from a lot of good judges, but we have to be patient with him. if anything it explains the McInnes interest, Madge probably thinking McInnes could play there until the other 2 are ready for the week in week out grind and then move McInnes to 13.

Liddle , Simpkins , Walters , Mbye, Madden at a pinch if your desperate .How many more do you want for 1 position ?

do you mean SIMKIN ?

Simpkin.

 

[TigerWest]

WESTS TIGERS 2021 NRL SQUAD
PLAYER CONTRACT
Shawn Blore 2021 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2021 2022 2023
Michael Chee Kam 2021
Zac Cini 2021
Adam Doueihi 2021 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2021 2022
Asu Kepaoa 2021 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2021 2022 2023
Joey Leilua 2021 2022 (CO)
Luciano Leilua 2021 2022
Jacob Liddle 2021
Jock Madden 2021
Moses Mbye 2021 2022
Thomas Mikaele 2021
Zane Musgrove 2021 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2021 2022 2023
Russell Packer 2021
James Roberts 2021 2022 (CO)
Alex Seyfarth 2021
Jake Simpkin 2021 2022
Tukimihia Simpkins 2021 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2021 2022
James Tamou 2021 2022
Alex Twal 2021 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2021 2022 2023
Billy Walters 2021

 

[BAGNF05]

WESTS TIGERS 2021 NRL SQUAD
PLAYER CONTRACT
Shawn Blore 2021 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2021 2022 2023
Michael Chee Kam 2021
Zac Cini 2021
Adam Doueihi 2021 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2021 2022
Asu Kepaoa 2021 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2021 2022 2023
Joey Leilua 2021 2022 (CO)
Luciano Leilua 2021 2022
Jacob Liddle 2021
Jock Madden 2021
Moses Mbye 2021 2022
Thomas Mikaele 2021
Zane Musgrove 2021 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2021 2022 2023
Russell Packer 2021
James Roberts 2021 2022 (CO)
Alex Seyfarth 2021
Jake Simpkin 2021 2022
Tukimihia Simpkins 2021 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2021 2022
James Tamou 2021 2022
Alex Twal 2021 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2021 2022 2023
Billy Walters 2021

Scratch MCK and Packer and give us a Hudson Young/ Tupounua type and I reckon Madge has a team capable of winning consistently

 

[TigerSJ]

Looking at our squad, now 27 players with 3 more to come, i think we are in the best shape we have been for a very long time. Certainly heading in the right direction.
I hope the group can sense the way we are building and start to play like winners. If they can do that then more quality players will want to be a part of this momentum and want to come to the Tigers. We really are just a few “elite” guys off a squad that can give it a real shake!

 

[jrtiger]

Looking at our squad, now 27 players with 3 more to come, i think we are in the best shape we have been for a very long time. Certainly heading in the right direction.
I hope the group can sense the way we are building and start to play like winners. If they can do that then more quality players will want to be a part of this momentum and want to come to the Tigers. We really are just a few “elite” guys off a squad that can give it a real shake!

agree. the fact that we didn't lose an extra spot in the top 30 through gaining Laurie is a massive positive for us moving forward. I would've liked to have seen Momo at least see out the year with us but we need a fullback far more than we need a centre and I can understand the move.

 

[hammertime]

Shawn Blore 2021 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2021 2022 2023
Michael Chee Kam 2021
Zac Cini 2021
Adam Doueihi 2021 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2021 2022
Asu Kepaoa 2021 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2021 2022 2023
Joey Leilua 2021 2022 (CO)
Luciano Leilua 2021 2022
Jacob Liddle 2021
Jock Madden 2021
Moses Mbye 2021 2022
Thomas Mikaele 2021
Zane Musgrove 2021 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2021 2022 2023
Russell Packer 2021
James Roberts 2021 2022 (CO)
Alex Seyfarth 2021
Jake Simpkin 2021 2022
Tukimihia Simpkins 2021 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2021 2022
James Tamou 2021 2022
Alex Twal 2021 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2021 2022 2023
Billy Walters 2021

**Depending on this year - Potential Extension**
Jacob Liddle 2021
Jock Madden 2021
Thomas Mikaele 2021

**Goodbye**
Michael Chee Kam 2021
Zac Cini 2021
Russell Packer 2021
Alex Seyfarth 2021
Billy Walters 2021

Man we're going to be in a good spot next year if we can upgrade a few of these guys rolling off...

Mbye is going to be the only overpaid player left... but thankfully he still does provide us with some value, unlike packer.