Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test

@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be
 
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said
 
@happy_tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152268) said:
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said


Doable if you hit the buffet.
 
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152276) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152268) said:
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said


Doable if you hit the buffet.

Pure lean muscle he said .....

No dirty eating like Garner
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Who is going to pay for all the staff to go and take the samples? And who is going to pay for all the samples to be analysed? Where will they be analysed? Will they constantly be clogging up private pathology labs causing delays in the health system? Or are they going to set up their own pathology lab and if so, where is the money for that going to come from?
The government is not so interested in clean sport that it's going to sink huge amounts of money into funding ASADA. With the funds they have available their best bet is to conduct randmonised testing so that there is a constant risk of detection acting as a deterrent.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152279) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152276) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152268) said:
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said


Doable if you hit the buffet.

Pure lean muscle he said .....

No dirty eating like Garner

Maguire spoke about Seyfarth last year in terms of his physique benefiting from his development contract status.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

It definately would be a logistics problem.if you think of every player in all professional sports in the country plus athletes who try to compete in events like the olympics/commonwealth games you are talking large numbers.This is why "spot checks" are done,as far as the NRL donating money to the cause you would have need every professional sports doing the same and an awful lot more testers and labs to process the samples which would only cost much more
 
@happy_tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152268) said:
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said

I can do that in a week.
 
Till the B sample results come through he is innocent. Although a lot of people say the roots go back to his junior days. Also if he is guilty I am sure he will be given incentives to spill the beans
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152281) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....
 
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

Flanagan senior ?
 
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

Robert Jennings is safe then
 
@happy_tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152268) said:
@supercoach said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152262) said:
@851 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152260) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said

Cause he's a Ranga
 
@dazza65 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152300) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152281) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152313) said:
@dazza65 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152300) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152281) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol
 
@cochise said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152314) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152313) said:
@dazza65 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152300) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152281) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152316) said:
@cochise said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152314) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152313) said:
@dazza65 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152300) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152281) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152278) said:
@jadtiger said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152266) said:
@Tcat said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152245) said:
@willow said in [Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test](/post/1152232) said:
There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.
 

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