Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test

[pawsandclaws1]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

 

[cochise]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

 

[jadtiger]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

Having closely watched their current coach play i doubt if anybody could associate him with performance enhancing drugs

 

[pawsandclaws1]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

He was nothing more than a figurehead while the real coach operated in a modified manner. Xerri follows Curtis Scott out the door. There are a lot of social issues in the Shire.

 

[cochise]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

Having closely watched their current coach play i doubt if anybody could associate him with performance enhancing drugs

lol, I actually played with him back at Scone High. He is actually a really good guy and I guess that might be why his appointment was never really questioned.

 

[cochise]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

He was nothing more than a figurehead while the real coach operated in a modified manner. Xerri follows Curtis Scott out the door. There are a lot of social issues in the Shire.

I'm actually talking about Morris.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

He was nothing more than a figurehead while the real coach operated in a modified manner. Xerri follows Curtis Scott out the door. There are a lot of social issues in the Shire.

I'm actually talking about Morris.

Yes I know.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

Having closely watched their current coach play i doubt if anybody could associate him with performance enhancing drugs

lol, I actually played with him back at Scone High. He is actually a really good guy and I guess that might be why his appointment was never really questioned.

Good guy or not, he should have been all over his young charge. Is it incompetence or worse?

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Have to laugh how that Mega-testes or whatever his name is (Sharks CEO) was whinging about how long the ASADA findings took, insinuating that the Sharks would have held onto Morris if they'd known earlier. By all reports Morris was itching to get out of his Sharks deal to play footsies with brother Brett at Easts and was angry Cronulla stalled on letting him go in the first place. The bloke didn't want to be there but now all of a sudden he's a huge loss?

 

[jadtiger]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

Having closely watched their current coach play i doubt if anybody could associate him with performance enhancing drugs

lol, I actually played with him back at Scone High. He is actually a really good guy and I guess that might be why his appointment was never really questioned.

I always blamed Sheens for the fact he didnt perform for us,he continually tried to put a square peg in a round hole and never admitted he was wrong

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Have to laugh how that Mega-testes or whatever his name is (Sharks CEO) was whinging about how long the ASADA findings took, insinuating that the Sharks would have held onto Morris if they'd known earlier. By all reports Morris was itching to get out of his Sharks deal to play footsies with brother Brett at Easts and was angry Cronulla stalled on letting him go in the first place. The bloke didn't want to be there but now all of a sudden he's a huge loss?

It is never the Sharks fault.

 

[Nelson]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

So having been tested and knowing he's getting busted he gets to "volunteer" his guilt and get his sentence reduced to 12.5% of what it would otherwise have been just because he's young? That would serve as no deterrent to other young players in the future. Young players are the very demographic that need to have a big old deterrent stick having over them to stop them doing stupid things like this.
I feel sorry for the kid and if others influenced him into taking gear then they should be banned for life in my view, but unfortunately given: how hard it is to detect this kind of thing; how dangerous it is for athletes to be taking these kinds of things; how unfair it is to clean athletes; and how tempting it is for competitive athletes to seek an "edge" or to recover from injury faster, I don't see how they can be anything but stern with the penalty. If he gives assistance and implicates others sure, give him a discount, but otherwise big stick sorry kid.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

He should get zero discount on his suspension simply for admitting to it, youth or not. The only way he should get some sort of consideration is if it's rife and he brings down the house of cards.

Just because he's young he should get a break? Yeah, nah, then all young athletes will be able to use that excuse and there'll be a negligible risk for plenty to gain.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

He would've seen the feather that got used on the Sharks club after their last group drug-cheating effort and thought "bloody oath, why the hell not give it a crack?". Blokes from back then basically served their suspensions in the off-season, club kept its tainted Premiership.....no deterrent there whatsoever.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

So having been tested and knowing he's getting busted he gets to "volunteer" his guilt and get his sentence reduced to 12.5% of what it would otherwise have been just because he's young? That would serve as no deterrent to other young players in the future. Young players are the very demographic that need to have a big old deterrent stick having over them to stop them doing stupid things like this.
I feel sorry for the kid and if others influenced him into taking gear then they should be banned for life in my view, but unfortunately given: how hard it is to detect this kind of thing; how dangerous it is for athletes to be taking these kinds of things; how unfair it is to clean athletes; and how tempting it is for competitive athletes to seek an "edge" or to recover from injury faster, I don't see how they can be anything but stern with the penalty. If he gives assistance and implicates others sure, give him a discount, but otherwise big stick sorry kid.

I don't believe it would have been too difficult to suspect something was amiss. His physique and pace had improved noticeably. Morris and CO. should have been all over this fellow. A pro-active approach seeking a reduced sentence on admission with support from the NRL,
the Player's Association and his club should have been adopted. ASADA with a scalp may have been satisfied.

I see this as a gross failure of whatever framework the Sharks put in place post the drug issue.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

He should get zero discount on his suspension simply for admitting to it, youth or not. The only way he should get some sort of consideration is if it's rife and he brings down the house of cards.

Just because he's young he should get a break? Yeah, nah, then all young athletes will be able to use that excuse and there'll be a negligible risk for plenty to gain.

Sorry but I disagree on this approach. I view this as a failure of the club. It is difficult to forgive after their last experience with ASADA.

 

[JD Tiger]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

Like the Storm, the Sharks still arrogantly act like they are innocent, even though they were caught red-handed and admitted to the guilt.

NRL and ASADA both should have come down harder on both parties (in their separate matters) for that very attitude alone.

 

[JD Tiger]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

Wouldn't surprise me. Just my guess, but I reakon there'd be 2-3 every year that could test positive but just don't get caught.

I have no doubts you are correct.Some players would be more than happy to play russian roulette with their future if it means short term gain(money talks).Not all players are tested and never will be

I don't see why it is so hard. They should drug test every player, every month (or however long the stuff stays in your system). Why don't they, is it a logistics thing? Well they should put more resources to it.

It's like speeding in a car, if they punish you only when they catch you, and they don't catch you very often, it's not going to be an effective deterrent. But if they put something in the car which automatically detects which road you're on and what the limit is and if you're speeding automatically fine you (I suspect they will one day, they're nearly there now), then that would be a lot more effective than the process now in place.

I understand that people are always looking for the loopholes, and there are workarounds on even the best systems, but I don't see why they don't test every player frequently. if it's a funding thing, the NRL should be forced by government to contribute some funds to it via a tax or something, every sport should.

Surely the Sharks' professional and coaching staff should have been alerted when the sprint coach Xerri was working with went off about his increase in pace?


My thinking is that at best the sharks staff knew something smelled fishy ...... even a dispassionate observer of the sharks team/players (like myself) could see the huge change in physique he had undergone in the last 6-9 months. Impossible not to notice....... look at the pictures,.... sharks may not be behind it but they had to have known something was happening and it just wasn't extra sprint sessions....

Exactly. I guess we can say something smelt Sharky in view of what has happened in the past.

Where does duty of care come into it? Why couldn't the Club and Xerri approach ASADA with representation and an NRL rep admitting to use and seeking say a 6 month ban based on his age alone. This is what.should have happened and reflects poorly on Cronulla. I do hope someone takes his case up.

6 month ban? Have you seen the list of drugs his A sample has shown up? If the B sample confirms he doesn't deserve a reduction.

Taking Morris might not be a good idea either lol

He is 19 and impressionable. This reeks of a teenager being easily influenced and the failure of the Sharks to look after one so young.

There are allegations he has been doing this for years. I also wouldn't take someone who has been suspended by ASADA to a meeting with them.

Surely the Sharks have someone of standing who they could call on to assist. I would offer the observation that as part of any reduced penalty he be made to transfer to another club to get him away from the Sharks.

I'm actually surprised that more was never made of the fact that after Flanno was suspended that they they hired one of the players suspended in their last drugs issue as their head coach.

Like the Storm, the Sharks still arrogantly act like they are innocent, even though they were caught red-handed and admitted to the guilt.

NRL and ASADA both should have come down harder on both parties (in their separate matters) for that very attitude alone.

I know a lot of us still believe we were innocent over the Robbie Farah drama (I do, I believe we were stupid, naive, and made a mistake, but didnt deliberately cheat), but the point is how could Sharks and Storm fans/players/hierarchy honestly believe they were not at fault?

 

[ElleryHanley]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said

I have put on 6 kilos since 'lockdown' began...

If they want to test me they will find cognac, whiskey and gin in copious quantities...

 

[Tcat]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said

I have put on 6 kilos since 'lockdown' began...

If they want to test me they will find cognac, whiskey and gin in copious quantities...

Sounds like Covid 19 wouldn't come anywhere near you.